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Boy did you put that well, Michele! -nt- new
      #231614 - 12/14/05 02:33 PM
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Re: Advice from my shrink new
      #231617 - 12/14/05 02:42 PM
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GREAT post Michele!! {{hugs}}

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Re: Advice from my shrink new
      #231661 - 12/14/05 04:46 PM
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I third that! It's amazing how some people can put feelings down so freely and they sound so good. I struggle at it.

Your post Michelle was so well said and obviously a lot feel like you do. You are an amazing person Michelle!

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very well said, i agree with you n/t new
      #231679 - 12/14/05 06:32 PM
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Re: Question about private messaging new
      #231688 - 12/14/05 07:29 PM
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I would like there to be private messaging, as there are people I miss talking to, and when I see a post by them I would like to be able to respond to just them.

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This is a fabulous post Michele... new
      #231703 - 12/14/05 09:24 PM
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...I totally agree with everything you said.

Still... I think my vote has to go to reinstating PMing. I think that we could still support the kind of open and honest environment you are describing here while allowing people to form more personal/individual relationships with one another - without it getting cliquely (as if this was *real life*, we would still allow people to form separate relationships outside the group... In reality, people already do that quite a bit by emailing one another outside of the boards.)

I don't think that should mean, though, that any potentially "controversial" topics (like the ones you mentioned) should be "off limits" to the private messages only. I think THAT would really start to form cliques, i.e. liberals vs. conservatives vs. whatevers... The goal, as I see it, for the LR should be to promote meeting one another and engaging in conversation on a variety of topics... I don't think we should totally rule out PMing as a way of people meeting each other, but having PMing doesn't mean either that we should cut back on the 'conversation' part. After all, one of the benefits of an online community is that you can be part of it sitting all alone at home in your PJ's (a la moi, right now )... so you have the very tangible option of just not participating in some conversations, even just not reading them, if you find them offensive. That doesn't mean "anything goes," but it does allow, I think, for a little more openness and acceptance.

Just my two cents! Again, fabulous post though Michele.

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What a wonderful post! new
      #231715 - 12/15/05 12:26 AM
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And I'd just like to point out here that the reason Heather removd the PM function in the first place is to keep all the IBS posts on the board available for all to read.

If we can learn to live and let live, then that would be better IMHO, but maybe PMing would give us the chance to respond to controversial posts without flaming fires?

Either way, anyone can contact me about anything! I'm pretty much unshockable (unless someone's a secret serial killer! ).

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Now I think I need an example (m) new
      #231751 - 12/15/05 07:55 AM
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After my research (see my post "Thanks, Michele. I did what..."), here's what I now think about my original questions. (Questions in black, what I now think in red.)

The following people are on the Boards: Angel, Buffy, Spike, Willow, and Xander. Buffy wants to post about last night's hunt. She wants:

1. Willow and Xander to definitely see the post and be able to reply.
Buffy would PM Willow and Xander. Willow and Xander could PM Buffy back. They would NOT get a roundtable going, just a series of what are essentially emails.

2. Angel to absolutely not know the post exists.
Buffy would just not PM Angel. He's be clueless, poor baby.

3. Spike to definitely see the post but not be able to reply.
Hmm, don't know about this. Buffy could PM Spike. I don't know if she could refuse PMs from Spike while still being able to send to him.

Buffy doesn't care whether the other on the Board see her post or not.
Buffy would just not PM the other Board members.

Can Buffy do any or all of this with Private Messaging or am I still not getting it? From Chinagrl's post, it sounds like Private Messaging has to do with replying to posts, not to making new ones - help? I think I've got it now. PM is not a private post, it's just internal email.

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Re: This is my fear as well, Sand! new
      #231755 - 12/15/05 08:05 AM
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Well, I figure people talking about me behind my back is already possible via email, so there's no point in worrying about that.

The Living Room is not my natural environment, so I'm not going to speak to any problems that have arisen or might arise there.

For me the real concern would be whether Private Messaging would pull questions, answers, expertise, interaction away from the subject Boards. It would be a shame if it did.

At this point, I still don't understand Private Messaging well enough to have a definite opinion.

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Re: Advice from my shrink new
      #231765 - 12/15/05 08:38 AM
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Thanks. I'm glad it was ok, I paused several times before actully posted it as I didn't want to upset anyone. I think that my expierences over the last couple of years has really helped me be more in tune with my feelings and has allowed me to express myself much better than I ever could in the past. I've found that through grieving my 5 losses and dealing with other hardships in my life, that the more I accept things, the more at peace I am. The more I accept different people and cultures and different ways of thinking, the more I find I accept myself. I'm learning whats really important, friends and the comfort of others, life in general as I've found it so hard to reproduce life. Thats not to say that certain types of people still don't bug me, like an annoying rich person, driving a mercedes, dripping in diamonds, trying to bicker and barter with me on the price of a cheap pair of glasses to begin with! LOL!!! Maybe I just need to believe in the goodness of people, maybe I'm just naive but whatever the reason, the more I accept, the happier I am. I'm really trying to believe everyone is good unless they are purposefully hurting someone, or are mean at heart. To me, just because someone is gay, or watches porn (don't think I didn't get through two years of sex on demand without a little help! ) or is Jewish or Catholic or Athesis (sp?) it doesn't matter, what matters is if they are good at heart and mean well. Wether you agree with me or not, doesn't really matter as long as you don't think less of me for my views, I won't think less of you! When these "controversial" threads pop up, lets keep in mind what the original intent was and if it offends you, than don't read anymore and leave it at that. As linz said, if anyone is unsure if something should be posted but would like opinions or help, you can email her or myself. Like Linz, I'm not easily shocked in less your a serial murder I think was how she put it!LOL!!! Ok, enough of my prechy stuff, I think I'm still hormonal and just need to see the good in life right now!

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