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OMG!!
      #231224 - 12/13/05 10:19 AM
Lyndsey

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i was online on mike's profile, and i was going to look up my gmail.com account, and i found gagonmycock.com...then i looked at other places he's traveled....HE'S LOOKING UP FREAKING PORN....i'm pissed because he says he doesn't...or makes a big deal of people who do...wtf?? i'm not enough now? do i confront him?? wtf???

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Ugh new
      #231228 - 12/13/05 10:31 AM
epa_ginger

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This is something I feel strongly about, and I know some women are a lot more laid back when it comes to stuff like this. I guess I'm pretty uptight about it. To me, it's not ok. At all. Ever. I don't understand the enjoyment gained from it, and I think it's gross. So I'd be mad and would definitely confront him. But...some women on this site may say it's not a big deal. But if it bothers you, you SHOULD say something. (and that is a horrid website address).

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Re: Ugh new
      #231229 - 12/13/05 10:36 AM
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yeah, i am pissed, i texted him saying i was seeing if he was cheatng and seeing whta i got for him for christmas on the computer, and then said am i not turning you on anymore or something like that..i don't really remember...if we BOTH looked that would be one thing...i'm freaking pregnant, feeling gross sometimes, and hes looking at these unstretched out, big boobed girls? i'm PISSED right now....especially because he's being decietful. if he was honest it would still bother me, but i wouldn't be pissed...but i'm furious right now...it's like i suddenly don't know who he is...he went behind my back and did that...i'm so mad!

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Re: OMG!! new
      #231234 - 12/13/05 10:44 AM
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I think most guys and A LOT of girls look at porn. Personally I don't think it is a big deal. I'm sure he told you he did not look so you would not worry about it. And TRUST ME porn is not all about unstreched & big boobs.... there is something out there for everyone including some that LOVE the pregnant look!!

I'm sure he looked at it LONG before you were pregnant.

Take a deep breath.... let it go...really it's not a big deal as long as he is not OBSESSED with it and is spending A LOT of time and no longer interested in you.

Just MY two cents!

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Re: OMG!! new
      #231236 - 12/13/05 10:48 AM
Lyndsey

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he lied....if he said something to me that's one thing, he knows i'm self concious about my body....he reconfigured the computer so he did it this week....or last...and he tells me that he wouldnt look and is only interested in me...it would be one thing if he included me..,its another to go behind my back...he gets jelouse if i mention i think a guy on tv is cute..or hot whatever...like bam or robert de niro..(yes thats two different spectrums) or any of that..i've tried to pose for him before, and wont let me do it...and i found old pics of his ex...a while back, he said he forgot, but now i'm even more pissed because she was ugly. and nasty and i don't just say that because she's his ex....UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHG

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Re: OMG!! new
      #231241 - 12/13/05 11:02 AM
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as for the ex... she is an ex for a reason... and think of it this way... he has upgraded to YOU!!

He would not be with you if he did not want to be with you....

Lyndsey....PLEASE don't make a big deal out of this...it only makes things worse and MAKES guys hide more things cuz they are affraid of how the woman will react to it. I understand he lied and said he did not look anymore.... but think about it... what would you have done if he said, "Hey, I like looking at porn and I'm gonna keep doing it....even if you don't like it" ????? Is that what you wanted to hear from him? The girls, women, etc...that is is looking at...is THAT..he is LOOKING at them... he is not "doing them" or cheating on you...

If I found out that someone was looking at the history on my computer to see where I was looking... I WOULD BE PISSED... you both have trust issues and that is NOT a healthy relationship.

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Re: OMG!! new
      #231251 - 12/13/05 11:25 AM
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I would try to talk to him rationally about it.. but wait until a time when you've settled down, and thought about what you want to say carefully.

I wouldn't attack him or he may just keep doing the same things again and again but hide it even better. I'd talk to him about your feelings, ie you are insecure bc you are pregnant etc and let him reassure you. Its not worth starting an massive blow out over.. but its worth approaching calmly and rationally.

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also... new
      #231253 - 12/13/05 11:27 AM
Dr. Spice Yamin

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another reason not to blow it out of proportion...

he can always throw it back at you that you've been snooping through his stuff.. which can cause even more trouble than necessary. Chose your words and argument wisely, or else it might turn into an all out war

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this is why i'm mad too.... new
      #231255 - 12/13/05 11:28 AM
Lyndsey

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i've TRIED to make tapes, pose...etc..he wont freaking do it....i mean really....i'm willing to do it in real life, and i know most guys would die for that...because...well i just know...i've tried to do it...it would be one thing if he agreed to do it with me...but he has to go look up girls who will do it....

i could see if i was extremely conservitive...but i'm not anywhere close to that...i wont go into detail, but i've had him do stuff that i know he wouldn't have done....becuase he was nervous the whole time (ok so i'm a little bit of an exibitionist) but i've TRIED to do stuff like that...but he wont let me, if he did it...and even blamed the sites on a education that would be one thing...and was honest about looking, but he says how he wouldn't, look it up...etc...thats why i'm pissed...i'm damn sexy damn it....

i was seeing if he was trying to see what i got him for christmas online, thats the reason i looked..and the only reason...he looks at mine all the time, i don't care, i have nothing to hide...

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Re: also... new
      #231257 - 12/13/05 11:32 AM
Lyndsey

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like i said, if he was even remotely interested in doing things like that with me, that would be one thing...but he's not...so he wants to look at other chicks? that sorta makes me feel like am i not sexy enough to you? because i know i can be...the only thing i have a prob with is trying to stick it where i've already have issues with,...lol....i don't know...guys are so weird...i wish i could get him back by looking up guys..but i don't really even find guys sexy..lol...no i'm not gay either...

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Re: this is why i'm mad too.... new
      #231258 - 12/13/05 11:37 AM
Shell Marr

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that is great that you are willing to make tapes, pose etc...but the "fantasy" is not there....do you understand.... he already HAS YOU... he knows your hot!! And... I'm sure he is thinking... (hey, if another guys gets his hands on these tapes or pics.... that is not cool... she is mine) You have to look at it both ways... does that make sense?

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Maybe it is time for... new
      #231262 - 12/13/05 11:51 AM
TommyNY

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a couple's counselor? I am not going to get inot the whole porn thing. But it sounds like this is much bigger than him going to a porn website. Just my 2 cents as well.

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Re: OMG!! new
      #231263 - 12/13/05 11:58 AM
duckling

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You could always tell him to cut it out or you'll cut it off.

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OUCH!!!!! -nt- new
      #231264 - 12/13/05 12:03 PM
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just talked to him.... new
      #231272 - 12/13/05 12:34 PM
Lyndsey

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he said that i got the site from howard stern...i said i believed him...but why can't he do stuff i want to do? because i don't believe his excuse all the way...so he said why did you go on my profile? i said becuase i wanted to see if you were tryig to see what i was getting you...becuase he knew i was getting something online, and we have a joint account..so then he said he thinks i was looking for what he got me, i said i didn't even think he'd been looking, so no..thats not what i was doing (and i wasn't, because i truely don't believe he's getting me anything..lol..there is reason to that though) so he said "well whatever you got me, take it back i don't want it" and has turned it all on me..what the hell? i even said i didn't care, if he did do stuff that i wanted (as far as pics and tapes etc) then said i have always had a fantacy for doing it on a train (i don't know why) and he goes "have fun" i was like..this is why i don't share...i've tried, and you turn it into a nothing...so now he wants me to take the gifts i've gotten back...and blew off what i've said before that i want in the bedroom, or wherever else..lol...which is why i don't really express what i want in that way...and i've told him that too...uhg, he's irritating me today...

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Re: just talked to him.... new
      #231275 - 12/13/05 12:44 PM
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1) he is upset about one thing right now and is focussing on that one thing...(that you looked at his stuff), no mater what your reason.

2) don't return the gifts...unless you don't plan on being with him. you bought them for a reason...

3) drop it for now....let things cool off

4) get a couples counselor... you guys NEED to talk things out with a pro... you have a baby on the way, you should do everything you can to not bring him/her into a relationship like this.


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Re: I am like Ginger! new
      #231281 - 12/13/05 01:18 PM
anlikerm

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I am the type that does not tolerate that kind of BS. I broke up with my Ex-Fiance because I found out that when I left for one freaking week to go to visit my family in Illinois, he was ordering Porn on TV. THANK GOD, we didn't have a computer then. There was no internet, then. Man, I'm old!! Anyway, I found magazines in his car and everthing.

I confronted him about the $300 DOLLAR FREAKING cable bill and he didn't have anything to say because he KNEW that he had been busted and I kicked him out THAT DAY!

So, hon......I don't have any rational advice for you because I have ZERO TOLERANCE for that mess. I just don't have time to deal with men in my life that feel the need to have that SH!T!! They obviously DON'T NEED ME!!

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agree with shell.... new
      #231291 - 12/13/05 01:44 PM
epa_ginger

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that you need to seriously talk with him! I'm sure you already knew that, but it seems like your communication is suffering. He's hiding stuff, you find it and get mad, he hides even more, and it turns into a vicious cycle. (I have been stuck in vicious cycles before--they suck.)



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We may be the minority!! new
      #231294 - 12/13/05 01:46 PM
epa_ginger

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From what I've read here, AND heard from other people. I don't know why, but if I found stuff like that on our computer at home, I'd feel betrayed. I know fantasy exists, but I'd prefer for it exist in the mind and not on the computer for $9.99/mo. My husband SAYS he's not attracted to that kind of stuff, and I think, after 8 years, I actually believe it. So I don't worry, and he's never given me cause to worry before. But I'd probably make it into a huge deal if it happened. And believe me---I'm not a prude!!

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I agree with Tommy and Shell new
      #231307 - 12/13/05 02:06 PM
Linz

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Couples counselling is GREAT. You guys obviously have some issues and have trouble communicating and it can really help. We're going to our next session tomorrow - can't wait!

Hehe, Lyndsey, you are making me laugh! I totally get your attitude. Porn can be fun, but he shouldn't be lying about it. And that sounds like an AWFUL site anyway.

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Re: I know! new
      #231314 - 12/13/05 02:41 PM
anlikerm

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I have never had to worry about my husband looking at that mess and I don't think I will ever have to worry about it.

He's happy with me and doesn't want to get kicked out like my Ex-fiance did. He respects how I feel about it. One thing he does know for sure ~ If he ever wanted out of our marriage~ That would do it! He would be out that day. No questions, no explanations, nothing. Just get out!

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Just a question new
      #231336 - 12/13/05 03:41 PM
TommyNY

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Does looking at porn if you're a guy in a serious relationship mean you're cheating or think less or love less of your wife/gf? If that is the case, I know plenty of guys who are in trouble!!!

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well i have an idea new
      #231346 - 12/13/05 04:01 PM
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maybe you could tell him what you saw if he dosen't admit it show him where you found it?? Porn is very bad i can't beleive there are even sites to do with it

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That makes two of us... new
      #231350 - 12/13/05 04:16 PM
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Porn of any kind only serves to degrade...I have seen the effects of addictions to porn ruin so many marriages. I would take off in the opposite direction and not look back.

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Re: Just a question new
      #231351 - 12/13/05 04:19 PM
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It is that it makes most wives/girlfriends feel degraded. I think that is where most men "miss the point"...I still love my wife. It isn't whether you think you are cheating or not...it is how it makes HER feel.

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MY answer to Tommy's question... new
      #231353 - 12/13/05 04:22 PM
Shell Marr

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Quote:

Does looking at porn if you're a guy in a serious relationship mean you're cheating or think less or love less of your wife/gf? If that is the case, I know plenty of guys who are in trouble!!!




ABSOLUTELY NOT!! It is more the norm then I think a lot of people think.... both male & females look... and not all porn is "hard-core"...... some if it is kinda classy...I think how you receive it all depends on how confident you are about yourself and your relationship.... I'm not threatened AT ALL by Shane looking at it (vis versa)...... I think I would be more concerned if he did NOT look at it.

So, Tommy... hopefully Tina is cool about you lookin!! LOL


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Re: Just a question new
      #231355 - 12/13/05 04:27 PM
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Hmm interesting topic and viewpoints from different people. How do you know it makes most wives/gf's feel degraded? I guess I do miss the point. Men are different than women. Now there are soe men who do have addictions to porn and that is a problem. But, I know men who have been married for 20 years who watch porn and their wives know about it.

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Re: MY answer to Tommy's question... new
      #231356 - 12/13/05 04:29 PM
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Well Shell, I am not going to get into my personal habits on this website or the more private aspects of our relationship. What I will say is that I agree with your viewpoint.

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Re: Just a question new
      #231357 - 12/13/05 04:31 PM
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Quote:

Hmm interesting topic and viewpoints from different people. How do you know it makes most wives/gf's feel degraded? I guess I do miss the point. Men are different than women. Now there are soe men who do have addictions to porn and that is a problem. But, I know men who have been married for 20 years who watch porn and their wives know about it.




Yes, very interesting... and Tommy, you hit the nail on the head... Men ARE different from Women...and don't understand why it would be degrading... (I personally don't think it is) cuz..hum... most porn that I've seen has both male & females in it!! LOL Shane & I BOTH try to see who can find the bunny first on the cover of Playboy every month when it comes in the mail!! LOL

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Re: MY answer to Tommy's question... new
      #231358 - 12/13/05 04:32 PM
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Well Shell, I am not going to get into my personal habits on this website or the more private aspects of our relationship. What I will say is that I agree with your viewpoint.




LOL Tommy!!

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Re: Just a question new
      #231360 - 12/13/05 04:38 PM
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People all together are different. I mean, it is good to have a variety of viewpoints on this subject. I just did not like this subject being so one-sided and since I am the only dude on the boards at the moment, I felt I should speak out. Men watch porn in various forms, whether it is a movie on Cinemax at 11pm or a PPV movie. Don't think your man doesn't sneak a peek at a mag, a movie, a Victoria's Secret show, or a Sports Illustrated issue every now and then. Get over it. Don't think your man is holier than thou. He is a man.

Now, if he is doing it all the time and has lost interest in you, then that is a HUGE problem. And addictons in any form are a problem. But these are different issues than what I described above.

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To jump in alittle... new
      #231373 - 12/13/05 05:02 PM
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I see both ends of this.

Porn can be fun. I watched porn with my ex before (my suggestion) and made it into a mutual experience.

Yes, most guys look at porn. It doesn't bother me entirely when i am with a guy, but it does hurt the self esteem alittle. I think more along the lines of, igf you are doing it without including me, don't let me know , OR fiund it!

I did get upset over it once. My long term bf at the time told me out of nowhere, off topic in conversation, that he threw out and deleted all his porn that day. I was like Wow! Why? He said he didn't feel like he needed it anymore, and that made me happy with myself.

A month or so later I was on his computer and wanted to pull up a goody photo I made on it of him in photoshop. HE told me to click on a file that was nasty slut looking girl naked. VERY embarassing. HE looked very embarrased. I asked him why he offered up info that he got rid of it, when he clearly didnt, and he told me "well, remember that rough time we went through when we were fighting alot...?"
That HURT bad. But, I got over it.

I have a theory, lyndsey, on why he doesn't want these "sexapades" with you and looks at dirty porn.
He might, possibly, have RESPECT for you. He holds you in high regard and doesn't want to demean you into being his "dirty girl", and maybe he is afraid that will shatter his image of the sweet mother of his child figure he loves. I am not saying things should be 'dull' (if they are)... nbut maybe there is a way to talk this out, but he seems very noncompliant with being open and honest with his feelings in such an uncomfortable topic, so maybe cousneling is a good idea,cause it does appear that there are other issues.
Maybe I am crazy, I haven't been on the boards for awhile, but weren't you having issues with him before?

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Ok, I'm stepping in here as a moderator, and then... new
      #231394 - 12/13/05 06:52 PM
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I'm going to email Heather and ask her to lock this post or delete it. No offense, Lyndsey, but I don't think this is appropriate for a public message board. We do have members who are quite young and shouldn't be viewing this stuff... and others who are offended by it, and by the ensuing discussion, and are leaving the boards.

Heather has asked in the past that the Living Room (and the other boards!) remain FREE of controversial topics, and I'm going to have to ask that everyone respect that. Thanks.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.... new
      #231411 - 12/13/05 07:32 PM
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I'm no prude but it's much appreciated. I've oftn felt her posts weren't appropriate. thanks

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no problem Casey...:) new
      #231419 - 12/13/05 08:15 PM
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no problem Casey... I was thinking about this while at the gym...this really was NOT the site for posting about it....{{slapping myself...bad Shell!!}} subject is closed by me

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Okay, but this is getting trickier.... new
      #231442 - 12/14/05 06:05 AM
Linz

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...There are so many things that people can find offensive (remember me damning migraines to hell? ).

I think if we're going to have this place as a support network but there are going to be so many things that are taboo (religion, politics, sex, swearing.......) then Heather is going to have to reinstate private messaging. I understand why she got rid of it but I also understand that for alot of people this is the only place they can get advice on issues in their lives.

The only problem I've EVER had with people on these boards (apart from the whole annoying Volatile thingy) is when people are bigoted and closed-minded and incapable of backing away from a subject. If you don't like a subject, you don't have to read about it. There have been plenty of threads on here that made me upset or mad, but I just don't read them!

I'll talk to Heather...

Btw, I think it sucks WAY more that Tommy is leaving the boards because he doesn't feel he can express his liberal views and male viewpoints than that people leave the boards because they cant handle people talking about their lives! I repeat, if you don;t like a subject, don't read the messages!

Okay, stepping off my soapbox now.

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Re: Ok, I'm stepping in here as a moderator, and then... new
      #231446 - 12/14/05 06:28 AM
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I agree Casey. I think this has got out of hand and the fact that Tommy is now leaving because of it disturbs me. I might leave too. These boards have changed so much and I'm afraid it's for the worse. People seem to be so judgemnetal and not AT ALL open-minded. This doesn't apply to this topic only but in general.

LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!

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Yeah, I know... new
      #231466 - 12/14/05 07:31 AM
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Personally, I don't find this topic offensive at all. (Hey, I *like* porn! Haha.) And in a perfect world, people WOULD just not read the posts they don't like - which is why I didn't comment on this thread sooner than I did, because I was hoping there wouldn't be any of the drama going on, and as soon as I saw people leaving, I figured I'd better step in and say something.

I think I misunderstood, though - I thought Tommy was leaving as a result of this thread too. I didn't read all the replies; again, exercising my choice to NOT read something that bugs me.

I wish everyone could handle things like you and I, Linz, but... well, ya know how it goes.

I totally wish Heather would reinstate private messaging. I really think it would solve a lot more problems than it would create.

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Sorry--maybe actually *I* Should be leaving..... new
      #231477 - 12/14/05 08:11 AM
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I had no idea until I logged on this morning that I might have unintentionally fueled a negative string of posts. I'm perfectly happy being the oddball for my opinions (here AND among my friends), and I certainly don't condemn people for their personal choices. (If I did, I'd condemn a lot of my closest friends, and I certainly don't!) I guess what I should have said is: My husband respects my views on the topic. And just let the "extent" of my views remain unexplained. I don't get offended by people with opposing opinions expressing themselves, so I guess I forget sometimes that my own opinions might put others off. Sorry, I guess I'll keep my big mouth shut in the future.

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      #231479 - 12/14/05 08:18 AM
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You have the right to express an opinion and you don't seem to be saying that anyone else doesn;t so don't worry! It's only when people take it all too seriously that it's a problem.

Input is always good. You don't have to be critical of others to state your own view.

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      #231483 - 12/14/05 08:32 AM
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Re: Sorry--maybe actually *I* Should be leaving..... new
      #231484 - 12/14/05 08:32 AM
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Me, too! I extend my deepest apology for offending anyone on the board, if anyone took offense to my posts.

Yea, I'm a christian. However, it's not my place to judge anyone...I honestly don't care what people post on these boards. This is a free country and I believe that every single person that is breathing is entitled to their own opinion.

I also come from the Navy. I have seen it all! There is not one thing out there that I have not seen, heard or done myself. I have been beaten around so hard for the past 5 years that there isn't much that can offend me, anymore. So, post away, seriously. There isn't much that can offend me.

Anyway, I kind of feel like people didn't appreciate how I responded to Lyndsey's post but that's just how I feel. It's just an opinion and do what you like with it. Throw it away, whatever.

Won't be expressing my views anymore.

Guess I just had to learn my lesson. Trust me, I learn quickly!!

Ciao! I will see ya'll on the diet board, but I won't be in the living room anymore. Too worried about offending sensitive people. Sorry......

I cannot tell you how much I appreciate all the help I have gotten on these boards. I love Beth, Kate, Ruchie, Michele, Casey, Nelly, Linz, who else am I missing??? I don't know but I'm sorry if I left anyone out and thank you if you have helped me out in any way! I cannot express into words the help and support that I have received from these people and God Bless you for being here for me (us).

I love you all!! I would not be as well as I am without the help from the people on these boards who have "been there, done that" and know how to help us. Thanks so much! I cannot tell you enough!!!

It's not my place to judge anyone on these boards and I would appreciate it if people wouldn't judge me. God will Judge me when it's time. I don't feel it's anyone else's place to judge me. But, if you want to......that's cool. Whatever floats your boat!

God Bless,

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Re: Sniff, sniff new
      #231491 - 12/14/05 09:13 AM
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I know I don't post much, but I'll really miss you all. Maybe we should write the last couple of days off as a bad job and start being the happy and supportive living room I know and love.

Remeber - this kind of messaging is easy to misread as you are not picking up any body language. It means you may offend someone when actually you were 'speaking' in a light hearted non-judgemental tone. Email's the same - it's really hard to get it right sometimes. Guess that's why we use these cheeky little beggars - !

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Thanks everyone for reminding me why I don't post anymore. new
      #231494 - 12/14/05 09:25 AM
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Hope everyone has a safe and happy holidays!

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I love you ALL new
      #231496 - 12/14/05 09:47 AM
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First, I did NOT see this until late last night! Or I would have stepped in sooner as a moderator. I'm glad Casey, Linz and Shell did *hugs* Thanks gals

Second...as usual I DO have an opinion. And I DO NOT feel any differently towards someone whose opinion is different from my own. So Ginger and Michele and Tommy and Shell...your opinions are ALL SUPER!!! I think it's great how we are all a family and we CAN be so open and honest

Third...I am also going to bug Heahter about this (poor Heather!)

I love you ALL for your special qualitites and perhaps even BECUASE of our differences *hugs*

We're gonna find a way to set this straight!

*hugs* and love,

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getting too sensitive new
      #231500 - 12/14/05 10:07 AM
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I think people are getting to sensitive about things. If You don't want to read a thread, don't read it. This country is based on freedom. We have freedom of our opinions and freedom to disagree with someone else's. I can't see leaving a board because of one or two things that may or may not be offensive. Look at how much good is done here. We all have gone though a lot with Michele and her joy and sorrow. I think of her babies and her everyday. We have been with Shelby through her sister's illness. Tina and Tommy blew the board away with their engagement. We've even discusssed boob jobs.
I think one post should not break up this little cyber family. I hope none of you leave because of this. Too much good is done here.
Just my $ .02.

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Now, now, you two! new
      #231509 - 12/14/05 10:24 AM
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That's not what I'm getting at at all! I'm not judging anyone. I realize there's no way to make everyone happy with this one, and I'm just trying to do my moderator-ish bit to stop the negative trains on the discussion. *I'm* sorry if that's not how it came out.

Discussions are good. Opinions are good. And don't even *think* about leaving - I'd miss ya both!

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Thank you, Carol dear - perfectly said! -nt- new
      #231513 - 12/14/05 10:27 AM
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(Thankfully) off-topic: Cath! new
      #231518 - 12/14/05 10:30 AM
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Of course, it could have been under slightly less snarky circumstances, but whatever... good to see ya! I was just thinking about you and was going to post something to see if I could nudge you out of hiding. How's things going? How's the needlework? The "kids"? Life in general?

Nosy bugger, aren't I?

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Re: Okay.....thank you.....Love ya Casey!! ~nt~ new
      #231542 - 12/14/05 11:55 AM
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Re: I love you Ruchie! You're sooo sweet!!! ~nt~ new
      #231544 - 12/14/05 11:57 AM
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Re: (Thankfully) off-topic: Cath! new
      #231575 - 12/14/05 01:24 PM
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I'm always here lurking!!!

Needlework - well it's sort of nearly finished (*hangs head in shame*). Well - they can have it next year!!

Life is fantastic - IBS is in major remission, I've got a ton of freelance work (a bit too much at the mo), the animals are great, life with OH is fantastic and I'm really getting into horse riding again, which was a childhood passion of mine. Sickening isn't it!! I'm even sleeping again and I've cut down to half my dose of ADs.

Big test this weekend - theatre trip with chaotic 'mother in law'. Normally major panic attack alert - but hopefully I'll deal with it better now.

Happy christmas!

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Good post Michelle new
      #231577 - 12/14/05 01:27 PM
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I'm a Christian and my posts/beliefs tend to be more conservative and based on my Christian faith. But that's just who I am...and I will never change that. But I love everyone here and do not judge anyone who doesn't share my personal beliefs.

I hope it's still okay to post prayers and say I hope God gives people peace or whatever. Everyone is different, which is wonderful. Big hearts abound on these boards. That's what matters most. That we Respect and cherish each other for their big hearts and friendship.

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Re: Love you, Beth!! ~nt~ new
      #231592 - 12/14/05 01:57 PM
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Re: Michelle(anlikerm) new
      #231672 - 12/14/05 05:51 PM
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You BETTER NOT leave girl! I was just getting to know ya! Oh and I'll forgive ya for not mentioning my name in the list of "loves" he he!

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Re: HOLY CRAP! I'm sorry!! new
      #231675 - 12/14/05 06:00 PM
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I was thinking about you, too, while I was typing. I was just typing so fast, I must have forgot! I'm sorry, Lisa! I do love you, too!!! .....I guess only listed the people I have talked to in the past couple of days.....I haven't heard from ya in a little while. You doing okay??!! Gettin' ready for christmas?? I have only bought 2 presents!!! LOL!!!

Holy Crap!! I have a lot of shopping to do in the next week.......Oh, man, it's gonna hurt! The doctor hooked me up with some Xanax yesterday, so it's all good!! LOL!!

Email Me when ya get a minute. I know it's crazy holiday time so take your time.
Take Care, girl!
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*Fabulous* post Carol! Thanks! -nt- new
      #231704 - 12/14/05 09:32 PM
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You're a sweetie Carol! new
      #231713 - 12/15/05 12:16 AM
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I agree with you totally.

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'Course it is Beth. new
      #231714 - 12/15/05 12:19 AM
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And I love you even more for realising that some people might have a hard time dealing with overt religiion.

That's what christianity is all about really isn't it, loving others no matter what they do? Jesus loved all the sinners.

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Re: HOLY CRAP! I'm sorry!! new
      #231919 - 12/15/05 05:37 PM
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I was just teasing! I think I emailed you back a few days ago. Questions like what sign are ya and stuff. Did you get that one? Anyway, yes been busy with stuff, feeling rather good these last two months (knock on wood)am hoping that our shopping trip (hubby and I alone!)tomorrow will be IBS tummy free! We both took the day off to do last minute shopping for our boys! The oldest who's 11, wants a drum set YIKES!!!! Mom and dad may have to purchase ear pluggs!!!

My dad takes Xanax once in a while. Works for him too. Hope it's doing the job for you too!

Gonna do some baking this weekend. I bake up some cookies and put them in tins for daycare teachers, my work and hubby's work. I'll be all cookied out by Sunday!

Take care and email me back when you get a chance. If you didn't get the last one from me, let me know!!!

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Re: Hey, Lisa! new
      #231923 - 12/15/05 05:48 PM
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I didn't get it, can you resend it to me?? Maybe my hubby accidentally deleted it, thinking I already read it or something. I'm sorry!

I'm a Leo! Me and my hubby both are Leo's so we butt heads all day long because we're so identical. His birthday is August 21 and mine is August 22!! How wild is that?!?

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      #231930 - 12/15/05 06:12 PM
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I did not leave the boards because of any controversial topic.

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      #232331 - 12/17/05 10:45 PM
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but have to say that I am 100% on your side, Shell. My Dh did give up thousands of porn mags when we got married....but you know, yeah, he looks at porn. I am NOT ashamed of it. These people are fantasy things, not reality. I'd go ballistic if he ever CHEATED on me, but for him, it's a little light reading. it's not far off from reading harlequins-we're just more "in the mind" and men are visual.....and if he were out sleeping around and not bringing the lovin' to my bedroom, then i'd be pissed. However, we're very happy in and out of the bedroom. And we didn't have sex while I was PG because he felt a little spied on, so I was happy he had his porn to keep him up to date. And yeah, that's me, and yeah, might be different, but I'm a lib chick, and it's not GAY porn, so whatever!

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