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ALWAYS late for work...
      #216476 - 09/29/05 07:58 AM
Sara-Sage

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Mostly because I have super bad chronic insomnia. My boss is on my case about it again. What a pain!

Anybody have ANY suggestions on how I can somehow get to work on time? Because of my insomnia I wake up most days zombie-like. The best I can explain it is imagine how you feel at 3am when getting up to pee in the middle of the night. That's how I feel when I get up at work at 7am. Ugh!

My boss is so mad. Oh boy....

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I sympathise! new
      #216487 - 09/29/05 09:05 AM
Linz

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Have you tried Siberian Ginseng?

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216489 - 09/29/05 09:10 AM
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Is there a way you can come in a little later and work a little later to make up for it??

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216566 - 09/29/05 12:01 PM
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Yes it does help. I should buy some more of it. But I'd have to take it the SECOND I wake up for it to be helpful.


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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216569 - 09/29/05 12:04 PM
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I come in for 9am which is the latest start time here. My co-workers come in at 7:30, 8 and 8:30 am. I do always make up the time when I am late but she is very old-school where she thinks being late (even 3 mins!) is bad.

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216575 - 09/29/05 12:10 PM
Linz

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Oh okay...I just found that after a month or so of taking it every day I was generally more alert when I was awake. It wasn't like a normal stimulant with me.

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216584 - 09/29/05 12:18 PM
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do you set out your clothes, lunch etc the night before? I have to do that because I can't make decisions in the morning and I have a hard time getting up and moving. My stomach is at it's worst then. I am late if I am not prepared the night before for the next day
Good luck, I hope you work something out

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216596 - 09/29/05 12:43 PM
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I haven't taken it for months now. It was the key ingredient in a herbal energy combo pill I took. I should stock up again.

So does your insomnia make it ahrd for you to work? I know you have fibro.

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216598 - 09/29/05 12:45 PM
Sara-Sage

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Good suggestions. My stomach is always weird in the mornings. The worst thing is I'll feel liek I ahve to go and nothing will come out and I waste time doing that.

No, I SHOULD and WILL arrange my lunch the night before as my clothes.

Thanks. Those 2 things will help for get a extra 10-15 mins!

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216610 - 09/29/05 01:29 PM
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Tina, this is a good suggestion. I have a hard time getting to work by 8 am! I always make my lunch, and even prepare part of my breakfast the night before. It saves me loads of time. Only problem is that it's sad to be thinking about the next day of work the night before...we just get home from the place!

My boss is a time stickler too. And even if you stay late, it doesn't matter. It only matters if you get in late.

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UPDATE, you won't believe this.... new
      #216614 - 09/29/05 01:56 PM
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OMG!

Ok, I had to put something on my bosses desk and I saw her daily planner out, it's always there. She has left for the day.

So I glanced at it. There was something "T.S. late 15 mins". So I looked through the whole book and EVERY SINGLE TIME that I'm late she writes it in!!!!!!!!!! She is @#%&* neurotic about it!!!!!! OMG!!!! So I looked to see if there were any other entries for co-workers. NO! Just that they've used vacation days or were sick. There was ONE entry for Dan being 5 MINUTES late. She even writes it in when I am 3 mins late for god's sake!!!!!

OMG, get a life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooo mad. Why does she care so much.

GET A LIFE!!!! It DOES NOT effect my work at all. Unlike the other bozo's here I don't surf the net and chat on the phone ALL day!

God, I am going to start eating my breakfast at work so I'm here on time. She'll miss getting to rag on me in her little book. If she keeps that info out in the open, what's in her personal file on me???????????

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr................

I feel sick to my stomach like I just saw a car wreck!

p.s. When I leave here, I am giving 2 WEEKS NOTICE, not a month liek I thought I would. I owe that b*tch NOTHING!


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Beth new
      #216617 - 09/29/05 02:03 PM
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Sorry I ahven't written back yet. She has me on 9 HUGE projects. I'm the "junior" designer here yet it's ME who is designing a calendar, an ad to go on ALL buses, etc. I think she's overloading me because I'm leaving soon.

Check out my update.

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Re: UPDATE, you won't believe this.... new
      #216622 - 09/29/05 02:23 PM
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wow she sounds awesome! nooooooooooooooooope.

at least you get to quit relatively soon right?

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Re: UPDATE, you won't believe this.... new
      #216623 - 09/29/05 02:28 PM
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Hi Tina,

That's awful that your boss is like that. Definitely just give them two weeks notice they don't deserve more than that and who knows how she would treat you if you gave her a month.

Hope things get better.
Jenn

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Re: UPDATE, you won't believe this.... new
      #216638 - 09/29/05 04:18 PM
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Oh my god! What a b*tch! That would drive me just INSANE lol

I don't really have any tips because I am EXACTLY the same way I am CHRONICALLY late for everything... always... lol Work, class, meetings etc... Sigh. It's terrible. Luckily I've always had jobs where my boss has been very accomodating - otherwise I wouldn't have lasted!

Good luck - lukcily you don't have to hang on too long, right?

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Re: ALWAYS late for work... new
      #216651 - 09/29/05 05:31 PM
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Getting back to the insomnia part of your post - I have terrible insomnia too, but I've found that I fall asleep really easily listening to the ibs audio hypnosis cds each night. Maybe that or something similar could help. Sorry you're boss is being such a bitch, its really hard to work wiith someone like that...
Dan


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Oh yeah! new
      #216689 - 09/30/05 01:45 AM
Linz

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With me it's also a lack of stage 4 sleep even when I do sleep that's a big issue. REALLY struggling this week.

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Re: I sympathise! new
      #216691 - 09/30/05 02:18 AM
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Yes, laying out clothes and packing your lunch at night is a great idea... I do that too!

Seems like still....even if I set the alarm for 15 mins earlier and GET UP 15 mins earlier...I still end up late to work... have a hard time getting moving... plus I'm always at this...(Do I need to go sit NOW or do I wait until I get to work...and then have to tell everyone to watch the phones for me...cuz I have to go? They all know about my IBS)

Good luck...I will have to watch this thread and see what other ideas are given.

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Re: ALWAYS late for work... new
      #216710 - 09/30/05 07:08 AM
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This woman is a miserable, unhappy, self-absorbed obsessed, person. She needs to get a life. If you want, when I come up next week, we can throw rotten eggs at her house and TP her trees...

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Re: ALWAYS late for work... new
      #216716 - 09/30/05 07:20 AM
anlikerm

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Drop some Ex-lax in her Diet Coke as soon as she turns her head!!!
hehehehehe.......Was that mean????
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Tina, your boss has mental problems! new
      #216753 - 09/30/05 09:01 AM
bamagirl

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And obviously feels threatened by you or else you could be an hour late and it wouldn't matter! Either that or he/she is a total nutcase! That is soooo weird!

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Thankfully you don't have to put up with her too much longer!~nt~ new
      #216769 - 09/30/05 09:28 AM
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Re: ALWAYS late for work... new
      #216791 - 09/30/05 09:59 AM
Sara-Sage

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YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!

Thank you.

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Re: Tina, your boss has mental problems! new
      #216792 - 09/30/05 10:00 AM
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NUTCASE! NUTCASE!

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Contrarian opinion new
      #216796 - 09/30/05 10:28 AM
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I agree that as long as your being a little late doesn't affect your work, it's silly for your boss to care about it. Apparently, however, she does. That may mean she's awfully short-sighted, but I don't think it means she's nuts or needs to get a life. The most likely reason she's tracking all the times you're late is so she can "show cause" if she decides to fire you because of it. Unfortunately, if that's the case, the fact that you get your work done, don't spend all your time on the phone or the Internet, and carry the heaviest load won't matter to her. She's one of the people in the world who think being on time is super-important (there are a depressingly large number of them) and being late outways everything else you do.

(Editorial comment: I think this represents a terrible failure of management, where bosses focus on stuff they can measure - however meaningless - because they're clueless about how to judge actual results.)

It's a bad fit to be an "always late" employee with a "clock watcher" boss, but I've been there and there's probably nothing you can do to convince her being late is unimportant in the scheme of things. I gather you're leaving soon, but until then my advice would be to tread pretty carefully around this issue. If your boss knows you're thinking about leaving, tread even more carefully.

I'm sorry to ratchet up the stress level - just what your tummy needs, I know - but that's my take on the situation.

Good luck.

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Sand new
      #216803 - 09/30/05 11:11 AM
TommyNY

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Tina is unionized so she does not have to worry about being fired. I agree that her boss is keeping track for a reason. But, I believe that reason is for yearly review. I also personally think Tina is being harassed as her boss does not appear to keep track of when other people are late. I know in the states it is considered harassment if you single one person out for something and don't do the same for others.

I have never had the problem for being late. I have always been an early bird. I have told Tina that she should make it a point to get there by 8:55 everyday just to avoid the issue. It is easier said than done when you have a medical condition that impedes your ability to sleep normally.

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Sounds more "ANAL" than a cartload of IBS C-ers ~nt~ new
      #216823 - 09/30/05 01:20 PM
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My Three Minutes of Tardiness new
      #216825 - 09/30/05 01:43 PM
Bevvy

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Sara, why are you always late? Is there a reason? Is it the same reason each time?

I don't know why your boss is keeping track, but you have the benefit now of KNOWING that she's doing it. Whether or not she's that name you called her, she does have authority to fire you, and that's what counts.

Frankly, I wouldn't focus so much on her -- after all, the stress is tearing up YOUR tummy, not HERS! -- but I'd take this opportunity to do whatever it takes to make SURE you're never late again. Do you like this job? Is it one you want to keep? If so, then I'd try to change my attitude and focus on being the most prompt employee she ever had, but I'd DO IT WITH A SMILE. If you "cop an attitude," she's already got her finger on that trigger, don't give her reason to pull it!

Now, having said all that, let me add that I do know how you feel. I had a boss one time who was a real hard-A$$. I was never late coming in except ONE TIME when I happened to run into a girlfriend on her way to work, whom I hadn't seen in 15 years. We were both early, so we stopped for a cup of coffee. It made me 3 minutes late. When my boss called me on it, I said, "you can take your 3 minutes and you know what you can do with it. I'm outta here!" I cleaned out my desk and left for good.

While it felt good, it wasn't what I would recommend, because it certainly doesn't bode well on a resume. Thankfully I never needed her for a reference!

Go have a Jack, get it all out of your system, then start all over -- with a big smile -- on Monday. Just remember, it could be worse: you could be retired!

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Re: Sand new
      #216870 - 10/01/05 09:29 AM
Sand

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Ah, good to know. If it's a yearly review, then presumably it won't be a big deal for Tina since I gather she won't be there much longer.



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Re: Sand new
      #216873 - 10/01/05 10:51 AM
TommyNY

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Yes, I agree. Hey what can you do? I think my girl needs to find a job where she works something like 10-6. I am the early bird of this relationship... I am out the door at 645 every morning!

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Re: My Three Minutes of Tardiness new
      #217132 - 10/03/05 07:04 AM
Sara-Sage

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Bevy,

I hate my job. I ahve for years so I'm pretty sure that's why I'm always late. That and my chronic insomnia.

I have decided to try my best to be ontime so I don't have the stress of rushing in and getting "the look".

I am a very good employee with a strong work ethic but this is my one major fault. I won't give her any attitude, I'm not that petty.

She can't fire me that easily because I'm unionized.

I am moving and leaving this job soon enough and I was hoping for the rest of my time here to be as stress-free as possible!

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Re: My Three Minutes of Tardiness new
      #217135 - 10/03/05 07:50 AM
Yoda (formerly Hans)

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Tina - your boss is a schmuck. The problem lies with her and not you. Focus on Tommy and the wedding and your DRESS!!!!! (Can you e-mail me a pic? I'd love to see it!!!).
Tardiness is one of the small things in life. Don't sweat it. Consider the source, and let it go. In a way, I pity her - doesn't she have anything else to put her energies in ? She's really pathetic.
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I always eat my breakfast at work... new
      #217149 - 10/03/05 08:29 AM
Augie

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...if I didn't I'd be late for sure.

Tina, if you do make it on time, think of all the fun you'll take away from this obsessive time watcher! She'll have to get her thrills another way! That might be motivation to help wake you up!

I'm sorry she is such an unhappy person that she needs to focus on this! I wouldn't ask her for a reference letter before you leave! She is a schmuck and when you do leave, she'll realize how lucky she was to have you as an employee! She'll have to pick up the extra work! Just let these thoughts keep you going until you leave. Her turn will come!


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from an HR perspective..... new
      #217158 - 10/03/05 08:45 AM
poochibelly

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I think we all know that few employers are sympathetic about physical maladies and the like. Remember that supervisors have to report to someone too and they may be perceived as not doing their job if the folks they supervise come in late.

I worked in corporate america for a long time and tardy was tardy no matter how anyone looked at it. In some workplaces if an employee is late the customer does not get served.

I don't know what Tina does for a living and I understand that insomnia is debiliatitng...I have it myself...but the supervisor may be powerless herself and just trying to save her hide.

Perhaps a letter from your doctor Tina would help?

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Re: from an HR perspective..... new
      #217159 - 10/03/05 08:48 AM
Sara-Sage

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Rachel, nope, I don't think she cares WHY I'm late. She just wants me in on time.

So I am making a BIG effort to be here on time.

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      #217162 - 10/03/05 09:12 AM
poochibelly

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then she can't ask for anymore than that can she? I wish that people would understand that physical issues can cause major issues for a person. Wouldn't it be a hoot to have a company run by folks with IBS?

Personal potties with lots of air freshner and a cot for naps! We could be on to something here!

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      #217172 - 10/03/05 10:05 AM
Sara-Sage

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I'm trying my best. I brought breakfast in to work to help me out.

I came in EXACLY at 9am with my co-worker. So if her book says I'm late she has to mark my co-worker down as late too..

Oh yes, I'll work for you!

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Hi Tina new
      #217181 - 10/03/05 10:30 AM
Stephie

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Better late than never, right?
Sorry that you are having to stress about work right now, when you should only have to be focused on good, happy things.
I know that from my experience, women bosses have always been more strict about things like tardiness and all that, I don't quite know why. In any event, I think that a few minutes is such a silly thing to get all worked up about, especially if you think of it in the scheme of things.
How much longer do you have there at this job? I'd say to just try your best, but really not to worry about it. You'll be gone soon enough, so what does it matter what this one petty woman thinks?
I'd be upset too, so I know ignoring her might be easier said than done, but I'd give it a shot.

BTW - I wanna see your dress too!

Good luck!
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Tina new
      #217185 - 10/03/05 10:37 AM
Linz

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Fyi, I've just ordered Mike Mahoney's Insomnia CD (plus the stress one for Si ) so I'll let you know how it goes.

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Re: Tina new
      #217200 - 10/03/05 11:35 AM
Sara-Sage

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Oh, I ordered it a month ago. I was going to tell you. It's nice and soothing and I guess it will probably take a while to work. I ahve only listened to it a few times.

Let me know how you do with it!

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Re: Hi Tina new
      #217201 - 10/03/05 11:38 AM
Sara-Sage

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Steph, I am trying to not let it bug me. I don't hsve much longer here either which is helping me deal with this much better.

You're right. I ahve other things on my mind now and don't need this! Ugh!

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Oooh la la new
      #217220 - 10/03/05 02:38 PM
Stephie

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Your dress is gorgeous, thank you for sending me the picture! I love wedding dresses, they are just so beautiful. Makes me want to be a bride. Or a wedding dress model. Hee hee.

Hope your boss isn't giving you too much grief today!

Cheers,

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Re: from an HR perspective..... new
      #217288 - 10/04/05 03:11 AM
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I am an HR person too.

Might I suggest filing for FMLA protect for your job? That way,despite being union, you're safe. We're union but we have a strict tardy policy that I enforce daily.

Just a thought. HTH.

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Re: Oooh la la new
      #217301 - 10/04/05 06:44 AM
Sara-Sage

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Thanks Steph, I love it too!!!!

She's been fine today. I got here just at 9am so I wasn't late. Woo hoo.

Thanks for asking!

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Re: from an HR perspective..... new
      #217302 - 10/04/05 06:45 AM
Sara-Sage

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What is FMLA?

Thanks.

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Ugh, that sucks. new
      #217326 - 10/04/05 09:28 AM
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Hope your insomnia clears up and that your boss lets up on you soon. At least you only have to deal with it for a little while longer.

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Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217347 - 10/04/05 10:05 AM
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Re: Ugh, that sucks. new
      #217349 - 10/04/05 10:07 AM
Sara-Sage

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Thanks Jennifer.

My insomnia is chrohic and life-long so it won't be letting up. I wish!

My boss will get over it if I'm here by 9am every morning. I am trying my hardest.

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Re: Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217350 - 10/04/05 10:08 AM
Sara-Sage

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Oh ok, I'll look into it.

Thanks.

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Re: Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217396 - 10/04/05 12:33 PM
Vicam

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I think we do have this in Canada Tina...I've been seeing a lot of commericals for it lately (pretty sure they were Canadian) I think you can take up to two months to take care of a family member.

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Re: Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217400 - 10/04/05 12:42 PM
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In the US you can take up to twelve weeks to have a baby...adopt...deal with an illness of yourself or a family member. Your employer is required to either give you the job you had before you left back OR one of equal significance.

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      #217408 - 10/04/05 12:58 PM
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Our system is so FAR behind Canada's. In Canada, the mother OR father can take up a year off at half pay and you have your job when you get back. We have a lot to learn from our friend's up north.

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      #217417 - 10/04/05 01:52 PM
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Kelly, yes I've seen the commercials too. I don't get how this effects me being late for work. Am I missing something? ha ha

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      #217418 - 10/04/05 01:53 PM
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OOOhhhhh gotcha!

I don't need to take a leave. Nope.


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      #217419 - 10/04/05 01:54 PM
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That's right. We are a bit more generous up here. We, as Candians, even seem to get one or two more holidays a year. ha ha GREAT!

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Re: Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217422 - 10/04/05 02:12 PM
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You know what, I was thinking the same thing? How is this relevant to her being late for work? But hey, I saw the commericals so thought maybe it'd be helpful...the commericals are actually getting a little annoying

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I guess I'm anal, but tardiness drives me crazy!!!!!!! new
      #217476 - 10/04/05 07:25 PM
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I can't understand why anyone ever gets anywhere late (unless of course, they have an emergency, like a flat tire!)

Even when I had 2 babies 13 months apart, I was always EARLY getting someplace. Tardiness makes me insane. I've always thought tardy people were arrogant, thinking they are more important than anyone else ---kind of like too good to follow the same rules everyone else has to follow. (Sorry, but in my anal head, that's the way I see it---like they think the world revolves around them, and them only.)

There's a woman in our neighborhood that shows up late every single time we all go out to lunch---and then she comes in griping that we didn't save her a seat or wait on her to order. She even showed up an hour late for her own birthday party! I thought having us all wait an hour in a restaurant was very inconsiderate of her.

I thought maybe you had to be in at 6 a.m. or earlier. I cannot imagine not being able to get to work at 9 o'clock!
Most people I know leave in the morning before the sun comes up, including the tiniest school-age children.

How did you ever make it through school? Where you tardy every day?

Sorry I'm not being sympathetic. But I can't even begin to imagine being late every day to work---even if it is just a few minutes.

Maybe you could work from home---or start your own business. Otherwise, you have to abide by the same rules as everyone else. I don't know how you can expect your supervisor to make an exception for you.





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Re: I guess I'm anal, but tardiness drives me crazy!!!!!!! new
      #217497 - 10/05/05 03:15 AM
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Maybe you should read through the posts or know something of Tina's history first before you make comments about people thinking the world revolves around them or how did they make it through school. Tina has chronic insomnia which has been diagnosed by a doctor just as your bipolar has been and your diabetes. Chronic disorders affect people's lives in different ways, would you not agree on that? You speak of school, Tina's specialist is amazed how she was able to do so well in school since she never really reaches the stage of sleep at night where most of our bodies are resting and recharging for the next day. Think how you would feel EVERY morning if you didn't sleep at all the night before. That is essentially how Tina feels when she wakes up in the morning. It is a medical fact and the doctors can't even do anything for it.

It is one thing to be tardy because you are lazy or just don't care but it is another thing when it is a result of a physical impediment. So don't try and belittle her before you know the facts. I am sorry if I am being defensive but i refuse to allow my fiancee to be classified as lazy or not caring of other people.

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Well said Tommy! new
      #217498 - 10/05/05 03:41 AM
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As someone who frequently feels the negative effects of not enough Stage 4 sleep, I truly do not know how Tina manages to get to work at all!

And until you've spent a week (not even a lifetime like Tina) trying to get up and dressed in the morning after no stage 4 sleep, I don't think anyone can comment. It is the WORST symptom of my Fibro...and that's saying something!

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Hey BL... new
      #217519 - 10/05/05 06:14 AM
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Maybe you should take that stick outta yer butt!!!

Talk about an unfriendly response!

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Re: I guess I'm anal, but tardiness drives me crazy!!!!!!! new
      #217520 - 10/05/05 06:16 AM
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Thanks Tommy. You're a sweetheart for standing up for me and I appreciate it.

Love ya!

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Thanks Linz new
      #217521 - 10/05/05 06:19 AM
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It is VERY hard. As Tommy said the neurologist was so surprised that I was able to finish high school and complete college, twice. The first time I went to school for social work for 2 years. The second time I went for another 2 years for graphics.

The best way I can describe it to people is to imagine what you feel like getting up at 3am for a pee. You're totally out of it and are slower and def half asleep! That's how I feel EVERY morning. To say it's tough is the understatement of the year.

Maybe there's some specialist that I'll meet one day that will be able to help me. The MRI did not reveal anything that could help them treat me.

And if it wasn't for my ibs I could drink coffee which would help me out a lot. Oh well. That's life.

Thanks for your support Linz, you're a pal.

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Re: Family Medical Leave Act....an American thing, not sure they have it in Canada.~nt~ new
      #217524 - 10/05/05 06:24 AM
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I know the commercials ARE annoying. The only one I've seen is the factory worker that suddenly gets the call that her mom's condition has deteriorated.



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Maybe BL didn't know about Tina's sleeping disorder?~nt~ new
      #217526 - 10/05/05 06:36 AM
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      #217528 - 10/05/05 06:40 AM
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The first sentence in my post is:

Mostly because I have "super bad chronic insomnia". My boss is on my case about it again. What a pain!

But it's good to give her the benefit of the doubt.

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Maybe, but that is why people should read through the posts before making comments like that -nt- new
      #217529 - 10/05/05 06:41 AM
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I can't imagine feeling like that every morning.... new
      #217541 - 10/05/05 07:21 AM
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Sounds like how I feel after a night of the kids waking me up every 2 hours - you never get into a decent deep sleep so you feel wrecked the next morning. I spend the next day in my pj's and not going anywhere if I can help it so I sure empathize!

I guess since she is obviously one of those "anal" people about every couple minutes, it's good that it's been brought to your attention. Between now and when you get to (woo hoo!) quit you can rub it in her face best by being there 5 minutes early whenever possible! Then she won't know what to complain about anymore.

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My opinion.... new
      #217544 - 10/05/05 07:45 AM
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One of my pet peeves about myself is that I am late often. Not VERY late, more like 5-15 min. And I have no medical cause! Yes, I wake up earlyish (5:30), and barely feel awake, but that's just normal grogginess---I'm a pretty good sleeper.
I'm lucky to have a flexible job where it doesn't really matter. And I'm never late to appointments, usually just stuff like meeting people out, etc. I never complain about people not waiting for me, or anything. I know it's my problem. And granted, sometimes things just happen that you don't expect. Like.....catching a train at a crossing, or bad traffic, or a change in plans, or someone calling on your way out the door. It's hard to plan your life expecting "the unexpected" that way.
Anyway, I think there are worse things than being a little late, especially when you have a diagnosed illness. I know a lot of people who get special treatment because of an illness. Certainly where i Work (the government) this is more common. And if your work is good, it should be worth it to the employer to give you some leeway on that.

But I'm of the frame of mind that jobs that make people clock in and out (in an office setting!!), are watched like hawks, have to abide by rules just for the sake of having rules (not saying attendance is one of these, I'm thinking strict dress code when you sit at a desk all day), just make people bitter employees. My job is flexible, my boss is flexible, my work environment is an easy one, so I'm pretty happy, and never stress out about work. I know too many people who hate their jobs because of their boss or the overbearing "rules" they have to abide by.

Anyway, my two rambling cents.

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      #217549 - 10/05/05 07:56 AM
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I am late for things other than work but not as often. It's only early morning things that I'm absolutely no good at. I'm 100% fine if it's in the afternoon, evening or night.

I think my work is great, I get a lot of compliments for the departments that I design stuff for.

Take my co-worker, he has not done a stitch of work since 9am. It's now almost 11am and he spent most of the morning talking to a co-worker about how their property taxes went up. He is now in my bosses office and has been in her office for at least 45 mins talking about non work-related stuff (garage doors, etc)

So for her to bug me about being 3 mins late is crazy when the guy in her office has not worked for the past 2 HOURS!!!! Plus he comes in at 7:30am and surfs the web for an hour while he eats his breakfast. She should be on HIS case not mine. But they're "friends" so it will never happen!

This place is too much. Very bad management!!!!

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      #217550 - 10/05/05 08:00 AM
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Yeah, that's what I mean. You are obviously a good worker, what is 5 minutes in the grand scheme of life? ESPECIALLY when you have a legitimate reason that isn't just rudeness, or laziness. Your boss must just have something against you for some reason. Most reasonable people I know would be able to look at the big picture and see that you are a valuable employee, but she's just stuck on this tardiness thing and won't see past it.

well, all you can do is try to get there on time, and if you really try and it doesn't happen, don't stress. Life is too short to worry about things like that!!

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Re: I can't imagine feeling like that every morning.... new
      #217551 - 10/05/05 08:00 AM
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Yep, it sucks.

I have been on time this week. I am dying to look at her book to see if she still amrked me as coming in late. By the way SHE WAS 6 MINS LATE this morning. I'll have a talk with her ASAP. There's just NO EXCUSE for coming in late. Some people...ha ha

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      #217552 - 10/05/05 08:03 AM
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She has it "out" for me. True. When I asked her to reevaluate my job level (I am doing tasks that are the same ones as my co-workers who get paid $10K more than me). Her response was (and I'm NOT kidding!!) "This is an entry-level job, I thought you'd stay here for a year and then move on". It's been almost 6 years and that comment was super insulting. I can fill in for three different people here: the designer, the cartographer (maps) and the Print Coordinator. I told her that buy she didn't seem to care that I knew how to do 3 jobs, plus my own so 4 JOBS!!

She knows I'm good at design stuff. I wanted to sign up for a college design class and have them pay for it since it was relavent to my job. She told me I could teach the class so she couldn't justify sending me to it.


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      #217554 - 10/05/05 08:13 AM
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I don't know your future plans, but are you planning to leave soon? Will you be moving to New York when you get married? If so, at least you can look forward to that. Better things to come!
And yeah, those remarks of hers were very insulting!

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      #217579 - 10/05/05 09:50 AM
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Oh yes! A move is in the near future. I cannot tell you how excited I am about it!!!

YAY!

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This is really harsh...sticking up for BL new
      #217707 - 10/05/05 09:36 PM
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Honestly, until Tommy went into such detail, I never fully understood what it's like for Tina every day.

I'm sure now that BL has some perspective on what Tina lives with, she wouldn't assume that Tina is arrogant. I think she was just talking about how frustrating people's tardiness is for her.

Frankly, BL, I agree with you. If someone doesn't have a legitimate medical reason, I think people should be on time. It shows respect for the others who might be affected and respect for your employer.

Hugs, BL! I know you tend to take things to heart, so I hope you're not taking this thread too personally.

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      #217715 - 10/06/05 04:26 AM
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I can't believe your boss! I want to praise you for putting up with her for 6 years, and for leaving. Sounds like you can do much better with another job, and should get appreciated more for your hard work.

Do you have another job lined up?Good luck, but I'm sure you won't need any.

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Me too.....~nt~ new
      #217719 - 10/06/05 04:43 AM
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      #217723 - 10/06/05 05:56 AM
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Well, that is why someone shouldn't comment on something unless they know the facts of the issue. For example, I am a huge politics junkie, I love discussing various issues. But, if something comes up that I am not well informed on, then I won't comment on it.

I am sorry if BL is hurt, but what she said to Tina was hurtful as well.

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      #217726 - 10/06/05 06:36 AM
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She's terrible!

I don't ahve anything else lined up, no. But I am looking so forward to quitting this place!!!!

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      #217727 - 10/06/05 06:37 AM
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What BL said was VEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERY hurtful to me.

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      #217728 - 10/06/05 06:54 AM
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I'm sorry I upset you, Tina. I did read all of the posts before I commented. What I didn't understand was you calling your boss a "b*tch" for writing you up for doing something she's made it clear is unacceptable.

I am aware of your chronic insomnia, but I was trying to emphasize that to some people, tardiness is unacceptable. To this supervisor being on time is obviously important. You admitted that you're coming in considerably later than your coworkers (more than 90 minutes later than some of them)--and then you're saying you're late on top of that? Sorry, but I'd write you up for that too!

If you two had come to an agreement that promptness is not important, then that would be different story. But you know this is something she expects of you. She's obviously not going to make an exception for you because of your condition. So this job is not a good fit for you.

Hopefully, you can find another position soon that will allow you the flexibility you need. There are jobs like that---this is just not one of them. I hope you can make a change soon, because I hate to see this causing you such stress. No job is worth that!

I don't do well without sleep either, and I don't know how you function during the day without it. Could you not work from home? It would be wonderful if you could freelance and thus set your own hours.








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