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Update on my Uncle Dick's death...WARNING: TOUGH READ
      #159712 - 03/11/05 03:10 PM
LauraSue

Reged: 01/14/04
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It's really appalling. Things were far worse than we thought with my Uncle Dick. As I posted previously, he took his own life several weeks ago. His long-time partner Ron called me with the news earlier this week. He said Dick had gotten into financial difficulties but it was much more than that.

Turns out Dick was ill with bipolar disorder. As you may remember from my posts about my sister, she has it too. But Dick refused treatment for it. And he and Ron had been hiding from me and the rest of the family how awful things had gotten. Dick was so mentally ill that he had been throwing his money away on women's costume jewelry and watches from the Home Shopping Network. Ron has found shopping bag after shopping bag full of it. He had mortgaged the house twice and maxed out every credit card he could get a hold of including some of Ron's. The money Ron got when his mother died, which Ron thought was safely tucked away in T-bills had been raided. It looks like Ron is going to lose the house and everything in it.

I had no idea my uncle was that sick. When we talked on the phone he sounded fine. The same wonderful, gentle, courtly man I always knew. I'm having trouble believing it. It's like I have to rethink everything I ever knew about Dick and about our family.

I no longer have any illusions about anything to do with family. Any last shred of sentimental romantic nostalgia has been burned away. No more trying to stay in touch with relatives, no more being the family news reporter, no more work on family trees, no more opening my heart just to get it torn to pieces.

I hate mental illness, I hate the family disease of alcoholism, I hate homophobia. I hope some day there is a world where beautiful young men like Dick and Ron were can grow old together happily and surrounded by family and friends who love them rather than going quietly crazy and broke, hoarding cheap trinkets and buying shotguns at Walmart to end it all.

God help us all.

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I'm so sorry you're going through this new
      #159715 - 03/11/05 03:30 PM
Nelly

Reged: 08/06/04
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I am so sorry, Laura Sue. I can't imagine what you're going through right now. It's true that the role of being the empathetic ones, the "feelers" and "givers" in the family, doesn't give any rewards except the burden of seeing everything exactly as it is. I am so sorry you're going through this and feeling it so accutely. There are a lot of us here who in a similar situation would feel this with the same piercing hurt and glaring clarity, openly crying out at the injustice of circumstance and challenging the world to open its eyes, and I know it's not much, but please, please take comfort that we're with you. Love to you,

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Re: Update on my Uncle Dick's death...WARNING: TOUGH READ new
      #159725 - 03/11/05 04:06 PM
Sara-Sage

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I am SO very sorry Laura. That is truly sad what happened to him. I hope that Ron will somehow get his life back on track eventually.

I also hope that you'll be ok too. Big hugs. What a tough time for all.

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Re: Update on my Uncle Dick's death...WARNING: TOUGH READ new
      #159734 - 03/11/05 05:36 PM
doubletrouble

Reged: 11/14/04
Posts: 1530
Loc: Canberra, Australia

Laura Sue. I'm so sorry. I must have missed your other post somehow and had no idea what you are going through. This must be such a hard thing to deal with but please don't let it change the wonderful caring person that you are. Don't let go of all the hopes and idea's you have on family. In the end I think you will be sad that you let it go. But if you really feel you need to do this then that's okay too of course. Just make sure it won't become a regret.
I agree about the world. Some of my best friends in the world have been gay. One of them hid it for almost 40 years and finally is now out. And I knew him before and I know him afterwards and it makes no difference what so ever to me. And why should it. Homophobes make me so angry. I guess all we can all do is accept and hope that in the future others will be more accepting too.
Big hugs to you and if you're feeling down please post and we'll all be here for you. I'm thinking of you and your family.

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Re: Update on my Uncle Dick's death...WARNING: TOUGH READ new
      #159756 - 03/11/05 07:18 PM
Dr. Spice Yamin

Reged: 04/15/04
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I'm very sorry laurasue. I'll be thinking about you and your family.

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Re: Update on my Uncle Dick's death...WARNING: TOUGH READ new
      #159760 - 03/11/05 07:49 PM
Augie

Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 5807
Loc: Illinois

I'm sorry you are feeling so sad and hopeless Laura Sue. You're pain can be felt just by reading your post. I just feel so badly for you.

I know the world is a rough, judgemental, non-compassionate place filled with people who hate, hurt people, and make life difficult and overwhelming for those who are mentally ill and already hurting. But if you give up, they win. They want us to roll over and play dead and just shut up. The world is full of bullies who are horrible to others.

I am thankful that you are the loving, sensitive, open armed person that you are. You are full of love and empathy for others. I know you have given me so much just in the short time I have known you.

Yes, those of us who are more sensitive and play the peace maker do get hurt more often and more deeply than those who don't give a damn about others, family, nostalgia, and the bond between one human being and another. But would you really rather be any different? It would be a shame if you gave up your own sensitive personality for fear of getting hurt. Your sensistivity, your love and commitment to your family really is a special part of you. Yes, the consequence of this trait often brings pain and disappointment in how others react. You may feel abused or not appreciated. But I cannot imagine that you would be happy trying to be anything other than your authentic self.

Your compassion, acceptance, and love for all people are qualities that make you so special and loved. Please don't let anything or anyone take that away from you. The world would be losing one of the "good guys". We need as many people like you as we can get. Your uncle needed more people like you in this world.

I hope you find some peace with all that has happened.

Love to you, Laura Sue

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Re: Laura Sue.... new
      #159794 - 03/12/05 01:52 AM
gigi

Reged: 03/21/04
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I am so sorry to read about the devastation this illness has caused your family.

It sounds to me that you loved your uncle very much. He must have been a very loving and kind man, who was so ill with BPD. It has caused so many people thier lives, I wish those who do their best to treat it could find a better way of helping those who suffer from it to live easier.

It is so sad to see this, poor Ron he must be out of his mind right now. I pray for you,your family, and Ron. I hope there is some way that he can keep from loosing his home.

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{{{HUGS}}} new
      #159806 - 03/12/05 04:06 AM
Linz

Reged: 09/01/03
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Mental illness is appalling. {{{HUGS}}}

Feel free to email me if you want - my best friend nearly killed herself loads of times and I was her primary carer for a while so I've got some idea of what it's like.

{{{HUGS}}}

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oh Laura Sue, *HUG* new
      #159822 - 03/12/05 06:04 AM
khyricat

Reged: 08/05/04
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I'm so sorry you have to go through this. I hope things get better for you! sadly in most families there is lots o fdisillusionment, and actually having had your eyes open may protect you in the future and allow you to help others.

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I feel for you.... new
      #159826 - 03/12/05 06:20 AM
nikjones_uk

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My uncle has recently lost his life to alcoholism. He used to secretly (or so he thought) drink behind everyone's back - it got so bad that he couldn't go out for fear and used drink as a crutch. So kinda know where you're at right now x

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Re: I feel for you.... new
      #159876 - 03/12/05 09:12 AM
cailin

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Oh LS, that is just awful, poor Ron, he must be devastated. Family is a tough one it really is but you need to look after yourself and do what is right for YOU on this one.
Big hugs

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Laura Sue new
      #159930 - 03/12/05 02:09 PM
BL

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I am very sorry to hear about your uncle's death and the turmoil this has caused you and your family. It was very hard for me to read your post, since, as I think you know, I also suffer from BP.

I feel your incredible anguish--- but, unfortunately, unlike many people, I also know what it must have been like for him. I have been in that deep, dark place, feeling like there was no hope and just wishing I could find some peace. I do not at all excuse what he did, but I do want to give you some insight that hopefully will help you understand what he must have been going through.

When someone gets like this, the emotional pain is so severe that they cannot think rationally. All they want is to rid themself of the turmoil they are feeling. When it gets this bad, they do not have the strength to help themselves, and many times, others----even their closest loved ones---do not know how to reach out to help them. I'm just so sorry that someone, anyone, did not get him the professional help he needed before he experienced this incredible low ---which incidentally, is very typical after the super highs you described.

Many BP people don't want to accept this diagnosis because of the stigma attached to having a mental illness. Others do not want to take meds because that eliminates the incredible highs they feel---and that's a part of their life they enjoy. To feel like you're invincible and highly productive is a terrific feeling. Who would want to rid themself of that? The medicine dulls you and eliminates this feeling.

I can tell you, that in my case, when I went through the darkest period of my life, that it was a gradual thing that no one---not even my husband or parents---recognized until it was almost too late. I thank God a neighbor realized what was going on and got me to a doctor in time.

A person going through this truly is paralyzed and does not have the strength to ask for or seek help on their own. Afterwards, family members are shocked and angry that the person did not seek help. I have to laugh when I hear people say, "But why didn't they tell me what was going on?" Please believe me when I tell you he did not have the strength or power to ask for help----everything he was feeling was internalized and irrational. I remember sitting in a chair for hours at a time, feeling like I couldn't even move. All I could think about was being gone so I would not be in pain anymore. This seems silly to me now---I had a wonderful husband, two beautiful children, a great home. There was no reason for me to be thinking like this---except that I know now it was a chemical imbalance that I could not control.

I know that you are very angry right now because of the pain your family is experiencing, but please, I beg you, do not hold this against him for doing this. As awful as it was, it was not something he could control. Please believe that had he been in his right mind, he would have realized the incredible pain his passing would've caused and he would not have done this. The way that his life ended does not mean that he did not love you and your family. Celebrate the way he lived his life, the good times you remember, and hang on to the uncle you knew that was kind and loving. Taking his life, unfortunately, was the only way he felt he could escape the incredible pain he was feeling---and find some peace.

I debated whether to even answer your post, because I don't know whether my thoughts on this will help you or not. I pray that this will give you some peace.

I will keep you and your family in my prayers.

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Re: Laura Sue new
      #160130 - 03/13/05 11:45 AM
LauraSue

Reged: 01/14/04
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Loc: New York City

BL,

Thank you for your post. I was thinking of you and the help you gave me when my sister's BPD was so bad last year. I knew you'd understand what he was going through. I know my uncle couldn't help it and I know he couldn't tell me. That poor man. I am not angry at him, just at the world. He took lithium for a short time years ago when he was first diagnosed but refused to keep taking it. And he kept it well hidden from us. His partner Ron and one or two friends knew but no one in the family had the slightest clue.

We just always thought he was the successful one, the cool one in our family. To find out the truth and have it be so different from the picture we had and so bad is just a real shock.

To everybody: I won't give up being sensitive and caring. But I do need to give up my illusions. Sometimes family secrets are secret for a reason. I certainly don't want to know anymore of them. I'm in such a bad fibro flare because of this that I can't even get out of bed today.

Thank you BL and everyone for your kind thoughts and support. This is a very special place and you are all very special and wonderful people. I appreciate it.



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LS, I'm so sorry...... new
      #160138 - 03/13/05 01:26 PM
barbie

Reged: 04/22/04
Posts: 2435
Loc: Texas

LS,

I just want you to know that I understand what you must be thinking. My 33 yr old niece is mentally ill and has tried suicide several times. Our whole family is involved in her treatments and are always on pins & needles about what will happen next. She has been in and out of mental facilities..sometimes of her own free will and sometimes committed. She is living with her mom who is my sister and she is taking care of her. Right now, thank goodness, she seems to have leveled out a little bit but we just never know what will happen next. I don't even want to take a guess at how many different medications she has been on.

I am here to tell you that it is very, very hard on the family of a mentally ill person.

LS, I am thinking of you and hope you find some peace soon.

Barbie

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