Another Poll: Do you smoke?
#145355 - 02/01/05 03:58 PM
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Are you a closet smoker or it doesn't matter to you if anyone knows you smoke?
The reason I ask is because the other day two co-workers of mine who I deal mainly on the phone with and see maybe once a month let it slip that they were out having a smoke break. After they said it they were like "don't tell anyone over there (corporate office where I work)that we smoke. I found it funny that they want to be so discreet about it. A lot of people that I know do this because they are ashamed of it, so my question is, "why do it"? And most of these people only smoke very little a day. I guess coming from a non smoker maybe I don't understand but I grew up with a mother and father who smoked and I really could care less if someone smokes.
So what's the deal?
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If you smoke, you smoke. If you're ashamed of it, quit. And I'm saying that as a former smoker... I smoked for 10 years, quit 5 years ago, and I was definitely not a closet smoker, except around my parents (who are non-smokers). So it's not just you not understanding!
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Yep I smoke! I am out in the open! Most of us try to keep it a secret because people look down on us so much! I feel like people think I am I don't know Trashy I gusse because I smoke! Sterotypes is why we try to keep it a secrect. Plus we get REAL sick of hearing that is bad for you know! NO [censored] Realy!! LOL
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so a certain degree about stereotypes. Yes, when I found out these two girls smoked I was shocked, simply because they didn't remind me of the type that would, meaning they are kinda "prissy" but obviously there is no really "type" I guess. I would never think trashy like you put it.
And yes, girl it is bad for you   !!!!
I know it has to be hard to quit. It is an addiction like anything else...heck I've tried to stop biting my nails 9 million time and I can't!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Casey, great for you that you quit! It is a very hard thing to do I'm sure! Do you ever want to start back up again?
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~~~Lisa~~~
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I quit 3 months ago! I agree with Heather - hearing, 'That is so bad for you...you'll feel so much better...BLA BLA BLA BLA' from non-smokers, has got to be the most ANNOYING thing in the world. Heck it gets me all worked up just thinking about those stupid comments! We KNOW it's bad for us! So is binge-drinking, so is over-eating, etc etc. I don't go around telling everyone eating at McDonalds how their arteries are clogging up.
Ok I'm done rambling  LOL. I'm glad I quit, but I was never a closet-smoker, and honestly - I love smoking...I miss it- the taste, the breaks, the feeling, ahhh... I won't smoke again, but I would never look down or stereotype anyone that does it!
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Never.
#145376 - 02/01/05 04:21 PM
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atomic rose
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Not even remotely tempted. I have no idea why; I'm definitely not a normal ex-smoker. LOL! When I decided to quit, I quit cold turkey and never looked back. Any time I'm around smoke now, I just get irritable, and I cough for days afterwards, and my IBS bothers me... it's a good reminder of why I quit, I guess.
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NO!!!
#145379 - 02/01/05 04:27 PM
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No way! I hate smoking with a PASSION as I grew up with 2 parents who still chain smoke. YUCK!!!!!
Edited by Sara-Sage (02/02/05 06:10 AM)
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Yes and no. I don't smoke personally, but I am a second-hand smoker. All my friends smoke and yes, I know it's bad for me to inhale the second-hand smoke but oddly it doesn't bother me much and I've grown accustomed to it. Sort of a slight addiction to the smell, or maybe the familarance of it when I smell it.
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in my life. Once cigarettes. Once cloves. NEVER again, G-d willing! I only did it cause I wanted to be cool the 1st time and cause I liked the smell of cloves the 2nd time. Now I can't even STAND the smell of either one...yech!
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No I don't. I'm a former smoker, too. I quit cold turkey like Casey also after having smoked for 10 years.
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I am a smoker too. Not exactly a closet smoker. All my friends and family know but as far as telling people (like in this situation) it makes me a bit uncomfortable cause I know people (not everyone obviously) can be very judgemental about it. I only smoke outside and it's the only vice I have (I don't eat much take away, I don't drink never do any other sort of drug) and yes I would like to quit one day but I guess I'm just not ready yet.
PS. Sorry had to edit. Title looked wrong. I don't mean that yay you smoke, just yay that you're so honest.
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Amy
Edited by doubletrouble (02/01/05 05:41 PM)
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I thought I was the only on here who smoked!! HEHEHEHE!! I want to quit to but I just can't seem to work up the courage to go through the stress!!! UUUGGG I wish i had never started> I have been smoking for 14 years!! I am 29 you do the math!!! YIKES!!!:o
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when you say it's your only 'vice'. My friends used to tell me that if they were me they'd be doing much more than smoking cigarettes with all of my diet limitations!
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That is really interesting! I don't think I've ever heard anyone put it that way before. So how come if you don't mind the smoke, why don't you just smoke? Had you smoked before in the past and quit and miss smoking that you do this now?
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Started when I was 11 and quit at 21! It's been 10 years now since I quit and I'm glad I did! It's a very very difficult addiction to get rid of!
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~ Rachel (IBS-C)
If life hands you lemons, make lemonade!!
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Funny Ruchie  I was gonna specify what I meant when I said smoke cause I thought then that maybe I'd get responses like "I don't smoke cigaretts but I smoke the funny stuff" but then I read your response and read cloves...I never heard of that! What effect does that have? Is it a health food thing? I know that sounds dumb but aren't cloves a spice and spices aren't bad for you?
I once thought I was smoking pot when I was like 13 and it ended up being oregano! Too funny, we all acted high and all and here it was oregano!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Started when I was about 15 (young and stupid) and now just have so much stress that the idea of having more stress on top of that I think I might die and as I tell mum, I might die with a ciggy in my hand but at least I'll die doing something I enjoy (well most of the time anyway.)
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10 years is a long time. It is hard to quit. A another girl I work with is kinda on a fixed income and she just purchased her first house and knows she will be struggling so she thought if she quit she'd save like $300/mth not paying for cigarettes. She quit cold turkey like 3 weeks ago and she's struggling. It's been tough, she's really moody and is eating all this junk in place of smoking....she's doing it though for a purpose and that's to save $. Amazing how much they cost!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Seems like a lot of people smoked for 10 years then quit! Interesting................10 years must be the magic number!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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That's too funny!
Clove cigarettes are generally unfiltered and usually contain 30 - 40 percent of cloves (yes the spice!) and 60 - 70 percent of tobacco. In addition, the type of tobacco used in clove cigarettes has approximately twice as much tar, nicotine, and carbon monoxide as the tobacco in ordinary cigarettes! So they are worse for your lungs. They taste good though. :P
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~Cara~
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Thanks Lisa! I'm very proud of the fact that I quit!
It IS amazing how much they cost... Fortunately, when I was still smoking, they still cost under $2 a pack (which was still expensive due to the fact that I was up to a pack a day for a while). I can't imagine being able to afford the cost now! What is it now?? $3 a pack or more?
Cara!! Congrats on your 3 months!! Wow! Has it been that long already! Good job!
Heather! I still love you! Maybe if you hang around me long enough, I'll be a good influence!  j/k
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~ Rachel (IBS-C)
If life hands you lemons, make lemonade!!
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Yep, grew up with two smoking parents too! When I was dating my now husband, he HATED coming over to my house. He left smelling so much like smoke and my parents too CHAIN smoked. I mean their walls were yellow! He had parents that didn't smoke so it was difficult for him.
My sister picked up the habbit and she smokes now too. However, it's very different now. She only smokes outside, never in the house (as her husband doesn't smoke and she has a 18mth old.) A lot of people don't smoke in the house now. I wish my parents hadn't!
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Haha!! I tried smoking oregano when I was a smoker too! Blech!!! Boy did that taste bad! Blech!! 
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~ Rachel (IBS-C)
If life hands you lemons, make lemonade!!
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Your put up a good argument! Smoking being bad for you just like McDonald's, binge drinking, drugs, ect. but people still do it knowing it's bad for them! I don't usually tell people how bad it is, like you and Heather said, you obviously know it's bad. It's an addiction just like drugs and it's very hard to stop. Dieting is the same way for people, they know when they have to start just like smokers know when it's time to stop!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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I know, I know  It's still embarassing to think about all these years later. Thanks for the informative lesson on clove cigarettes. Funny how you think they taste good and Ruchie thinks they are yucky ..I would think they'd tast better than regular ones.
Hey, how have you been feeling? Did you get an appointment for a gallbladder scan yet?
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Amy, A LOT of people that smoke have anxiety and that helps it. I think it's actually proven that it calms the nerves. Man, I should have started smoking at a young age too! Maybe my nerves would be better Instead I eat chocolate which sometimes causes my IBS to flare up and then I get anxiety from that! Ughhh can't win!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Heather!!! There are millions of people that smoke...some on the boards that maybe are closet smokers and won't respond! I don't think differently of anyone whether they smoke/drink/overeat/undereat or whatever. You, my friend, are still as sweet as can be no matter what and that's what matters!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Who editit my post?? I had typed sh*t and someone put censored. Doesn't matter just wondering!
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Heather7476
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Lisa
#145444 - 02/01/05 06:35 PM
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doubletrouble
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Lisa, Okay, I guess that's my other vice. I'm a chocoholic. But it makes me flare up too. Not with d but I get really churny and in lot's of pain about 1/2 an hour after eating it. But I can't give it up either (at least it won't kill me I guess) and as far as smoking to ease stress I don't know that it does. My levels are constantly through the roof, just that quitting causes even more and I've tried to quit twice and both times had such bad d that I started smoking again just to help clog me up a bit! Weird side effect of quitting I know.
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Melissa
Friendship is thicker than blood. ~Rent
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You have no idea how much I needed that today!!! Thanks so much and back at ya!!!!!
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Heather7476
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My girlfriend tried quitting a few times too and she just got nutty so her whole family said she should start smoking again cause they couldn't take it  So yes, sometimes it's just not worth the aggrevation of quitting.
And to your defense, I think if I had twins I would have to start smoking too LOL
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~~~Lisa~~~
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That is how I feel!!! Same thing about my weight!! Dr Atkens didn't eat carbs for how long so he would be healthy and he slipped on some ice and died!! 
So I say LIVE and be HAPPY because you never know when you might slip
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Heather7476
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Yep, that would be a good reason not too...LOL
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Me either Brittany! Too expensive. I'd rather buy shoes!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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See
#145461 - 02/01/05 06:49 PM
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heather7476
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that response is the excate reason I hate telling people I smoke!
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Heather7476
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I did...
Hmm from 14-17 just like one or two a week..
haha 18-22 about a pack a day.. but I quit when I was 22 for about 8months.. hung out with my bestfriend from college who smokes like a champ.. started up again but then quit again two weeks later so essentially i've quit for 1.5 yrs now.
oh and although I miss it once in a great blue moon.. i hope to never do it again. it just cost alot of money, and even though its cliched i'm sick with colds and sore throats and coughts not even 25% of the time that I used to be when i smoked.
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Quote:
That is really interesting! I don't think I've ever heard anyone put it that way before. So how come if you don't mind the smoke, why don't you just smoke? Had you smoked before in the past and quit and miss smoking that you do this now?
Nobody.. never smoked cigarettes before. I smoke cloves on special occasions (camping trips, parties, etc.) but not often.
I guess I'm just used to the smoke and when I smell it, I start thinking about hanging out with my friends. It's weird, but it just doesn't bother me. Feels weird when I haven't smelled it in a while...
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I think the boards are trained to catch some words, or else Heather edits them.
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- Jennifer
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Ashley, funny how when you are with someone that smokes it's hard to not smoke. A lot of people say that. Like when a BF/or husband quits and the wife/or GF still smokes, the other usually starts back up again.
Not only are you I guess healthier but I think people who tend to get colds or bronchitis get it even worse if they are smokers. My mom gets pneumonia every year and she's a smoker. Hey, and also, according to Cara....smoking causes wrinkles and we don't want them !!!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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oh no.. def don't want the wrinkles..
however I do still frequent the tanning bed every few weeks.. which probably doesn't help at all!
I know it is hard.. me and my roomate basically lived together two years and would chill on the couch and smoke butts.. so its really strange not to do that with her. but i've learned my lesson now and I know I have to be extra careful.
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LOVE them. Especially in the winter months! I used to go when I was younger then I saw a dermatologist who removed 9 million moles off me and guilted me into sunscreen and no tanning beds...Ugghhhh one of the joys of life, ripped from me! I LOVE the sun!
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~~~Lisa~~~
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Quote:
So I say LIVE and be HAPPY because you never know when you might slip
Hahaha....that's a good one. You rock. HUGS!
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~Cara~
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I think cigarettes taste good too though And I LOVE the smell. I don't like being in a room with no ventilation and smokers...but I love smelling someone that just smoked, or walking by someone who's smoking...yummm....I better stop talking about this!! LOL.
I didn't make an appt yet for a gallbladder scan. I have felt good now for 2 days....hubby has a check up with a new doctor next week, and if I don't have pain before then I'm going to ask him about it. I'm procrastinating, which is probably dumb...but I just hate doctors/hospitals! 
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I had D too when I quit, for about a week it was really bad....that's one of my motivations to not start again actually! It really screwed with my stomach!
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~Cara~
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oh god I know.. In college the big thing to do was to go weekly or sometimes twice a week all winter.. and look perma tan and hot all year round hehe!
Anyways.. I know its really unhealthy and since entering grad school i've cut down a million percent.. but I still go every once in awhile.. I hate being too pale.
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I don't smoke cigarettes, never have really. Maybe about 5 in my life, mostly when really really drunk, all in college. But, I do smoke this ...
Don't call the cops, it's not for pot. It's an Arabic water pipe, called a Hookah or Shisha, or nargileh (though the last is mostly a Syrian word). You smoke flavored "molassas" tobacco from it, which is wet and sticky and comes in lots of flavors. My favorites are mint, melon, apple, apricot, and cola. You put coals on the top, over the bowl that has the tobacco in it. Then the smoke goes down into the base and mixes with water (or whatever else you put in there, like vodka or sambuka), and it gets all steamy/smokey, and you smoke it through the long tube. It's a social thing, and I do it about once a month or so, with my brothers and my friends. It is so relaxing, I can see why cigarette smokers get addicted to that feeling! It does get me kind of woozy and nauseated though sometimes, so it's really just for once in a while. I do love it though! I have the one in the pic, and I have a teeny baby one that I used in college, which is now mostly for decoration. My brother has 3, and always brings them out for parties and stuff. And now there are about a million places in manhattan and brooklyn where you can go smoke and order appetizers (meze in Arabic). Interestingly, a lot of those places don't serve alcohol (I think it's a Muslim thing), so it's a fun thing to do when you don't want to really party hard. Mmm .. makes me want to light mine up!
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Busted. Yes, I smoke. Usually about 5 - 10 a day.
Like doubletrouble, it's my only vice. I've even given up chocolate! And boy, was I a girl with a lot of vices before IBS!!
I'm kind of ashamed of it.... but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy it. a bit like masturbation, really...
In a large workplace like mine, it gives an interesting opportunity to socialise with people you might not otherwise outside. Like the big boss manager and stuff. It's like the dirty smokers networking session at tea times.
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That is fascinating. The only thing I've come remotely close to smoking is this cigarette called a Gudang (sp?) which kinda tasted like cinnamon. I really loved them for a while. Haven't had one in years though.
Emma, as a teen I was a girl with so many vices I'm surprised there's still a girl left. Don't know how on earth my parents put up with me! Like you, most of my friends (and when I worked co-workers) smoked so it was very much a social thing. Now it's just smoking.
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Haha you're so right! Hmm...shoes..cigarettes...shoes...cigarettes... yeah I'm gonna have to with the shoes. Plus shoes don't stink (unless you're feet do) AND they don't cause long term health problems.
On a side note though - I swore I'd never smoke not only because I think it's just gross and silly...but both of my grandfathers died of lung cancer from smoking and their lives were cut shorter than they needed to be and I know what that did to our families and just couldn't imagine bringing that on anyone else.
But back to the shoes....
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No more tanning beds Ashely! That'll give ya major wrinkles too as you get older. Try some different sunless tanning lotions! I know it's not the same.....I used to go to tanning beds in college too and they are so relaxing..
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Re: See
#145575 - 02/02/05 06:05 AM
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Sorry Heather. I didn't mean to offend anyone! I just passionately hate the smell of smoke. I'm sure us anti-smokers annoy the heck out of you!
I don't hate smokers though. My BF smoked for the first year of our relationship and I started dating him knowing he smoked.
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I think it is unfathomably gross. I can't understand how people who smoke can kiss anyone. Sorry. When I am meter reading I see people outside their houses smoking all the time and think what a stupid thing to do. And don't even get me started on smoking with kids around! I have asthma from second hand smoke and my grandma died from it. Her lungs failed when everything else was fine and she had never smoked- only her husband and kids! 
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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#145577 - 02/02/05 06:08 AM
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It's gross isn't it? My friends never wanted to come over when I lived there as the smoke bothered them all.
My BF strongly dislikes coming home with me and we always take showers as soon as we're home and change our clothing. The smoke gets into everything. Ugh!
I used to bring laundry to my parents home when I visited to save money but soon stopped. Even though my clothes were clean, they all smelled like they were sitting ina smokey bar all night. GROSS!
I have never allowed anyone to smoke in any of my homes. We're mostly had apartments with balconies which is good for my parenst and friends who smoke.
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#145582 - 02/02/05 06:18 AM
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heather7476
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I wasn't taking it persanlly! I understand it is my habbitt and not others. but can you see why us smokers don't like telling people. We are like public enemy number one any more.
Man o Man I can not spell today!! LOL
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#145678 - 02/02/05 08:18 AM
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I know! There's such a divide between smokers and non-smokers.
You have a tough ride if you ever want to quit as it's nearly impossible to do! Have you ever thought about quitiing? Just curious?
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There are some places that don't like to hire smokers cos they get diminishing returns from those who have to pop out every hour for a cigarette. I get so frustrated with smokers leaving their posts when I do a conference, and then I find them outside, on the clock, talking sports with the bellhop or something. It drives me crazy.
I can't smoke cigarettes cos I have asthma. I will, however, puff on an occasional cigar at a poker game or at the track.
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Re: Gross!!!
#145711 - 02/02/05 08:53 AM
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abuss
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Ditto - I don't understand why anyone would smoke in this day and age...you are literally killing yourself. I guess I may be a bit more passionate about it than others b/c my mom smoked and had a stroke at the age of 55 because of it. Not to mention the smell...I have employees who come into my office after their smoke breaks and practically gag me out!!! YUCK YUCK YUCK
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I used to love to tan, but since I know it's so bad for me I've told myself that I'm not going to go tanning anymore, but if I did need some color for a special occasion I would just go to the spray bed...the cost isn't a whole lot different!
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Ohhh I should look into the spray on tans! I thought that they were way more expensive.
I've definitly tried the self tanners, but its a pain in the butt compared to just running into a booth really quick.. laying down listening to music and coming out tan. Self tanners really are alot of work.
but.. I bet the booths might be something to look into. 
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I think the price might depend on where you go. When I tanned I used the Ultra Bronze beds and they were a bit more expensive than the traditional beds, so if I were to compare the spray booths to that...it was relatively the same!
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I have 2 people proofreading my novel manuscript for me and both smoke and when they give me a few pieces of paper they smell so much like smoke I have to air them out before I read them!
Where is Lake Crystal?
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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My step-mom and I were going to do the spray-on tanning two years ago for her wedding, but never did. She looked into it and said it was only $30 or so. Might try it this year!
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Yep a waste of time. My mom used to get so POed at her coworkers who basically worked half as much as her because of smoking.
LOL cigars. I think smoking a pipe like Gandalf looks doable.
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Ummmmm......
#145767 - 02/02/05 10:14 AM
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I just wanted to say.....I don't smoke anymore (1 month today actually!!)!! And yes I agree that it's a disgusting habit.
However, I think that saying that smokers slack off more at work because of smoke breaks, etc. is a huge generalization and it's quite offensive. I smoked 10 years and my work performance was always 100%. I went for a smoke when I had a break and it didn't effect my work performance at all.
This seems to have turned into a "let's hate on smokers" thread. There are plenty of things that people do that are equally bad for them so lets ease up a bit here folks!!
Not wanting to offend anyone here...just had to say something.
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Amanda Panda!!
#145771 - 02/02/05 10:16 AM
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I've smoked those a bunch of times with a few friends of mine that are Egyptian. I like the strawberry the best!!
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I was getting a little worried about the direction this thread was going, but didn't know what to say or how to say it! I couldn't have said it better myself!
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I have tried the spray on tan and it's ok. But it's really hard to get an even tan on your hands and if you have any dry spots look out because it makes a big dark spot on your body. I think what I tried was the Mystic Tan.
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Personally, I don't smoke, never really have. I may have smoked maybe 5 cigs in my life, years ago, when I was drunk. I don't dislike people that smoke. I dislike people who are inconsiderate of it. I hate going into a public building and having to walk through a haze of smoke from 10 people huddle around smoking in front of the doors. I dislike how a lot of people throw there butts on the ground. If someone wants to smoke, thats fine by me, who am I to judge? But please, be considerate.
Heather, you ARE a considerate smoker!! Your clothes don't smell and neither does your house! I have several friends who smoke, I even provide an ash tray for them, OUTSIDE my house, on the porch! I KNOW about addictions and I do not judge anyone for them. My mom chain smokes. This has caused issues between us. She is aware of my no smoking in the house rule at my house. Last year, I invited her down to stay the night and bought us tickets to the Christmas Spectular Show. She was SO pissed at me because I made her go outside in the cold to smoke. Did she think just because it was winter out, I was going to let people smoke in my house?? She has never been back to my house and I doubt she ever will. This is a very sad thing for me. Especially with my trying to have a baby. She can't go 5 minutes without a cig. I will not be taking baby over there and exposing a helpless infant to all that second hand smoke. So, I guess my baby won't have much of a grandma and I find that very, very sad.
Anyway, I degressed, sorry. My point is, I could care less if someone smoked, just be considerate about it! We all have our vices of one sort or another!
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I LOVE going to tanning beds but haven't been in a while. I guess I did go a few times last winter but that was because we were going on a cruise and I burn less if I have a bit of a base tan first. Not to mention, I refused to put on a bathing suit looking like the Pilsbury Dough Girl!! Although, recently I have started swimming and boy, oh boy, I'm so white, I think I glow in the dark!! Oh well, I'm there to get healthy not to impress anyone!
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Clove cigs have a terribly strong smell. Personally, it makes me ill to even smell it but I know a lot of people do like the way it smells! I've never tried smoking it because I can't get past the smell!
As for the "oregano," I may have smoked a little of that in my day!
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Couldn't have said it better myself....
I never had a bad work habit, EVER. In fact I got more done that most people because I didn't chat (like on a website) all day!
Everyone has their own problems...no, smoking isn't the best thing you can do for your body, but there are a lot of things people do that aren't good....smokers just got knocked for it a lot more.
Just my 2 cents!
This is the exact reason that people hate talking to non-smokers about it, and it sure doesn't help make people want to quit!
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No it sure doesn't!!
I remember being in the elevator at work last summer and I had just come in from having a smoke. Well this lady got in the elevator and sort of sniffed the air and then looked at me and said, "do you know how many people die from smoking each year??" and kind of rolled her eyes at me.
I thought it was hilarious she would say that to me considering she was extremely over weight and carrying a Mc Donald's bag LOL It was on the tip of my tongue to say, "And do you know how many people die each year of obescity related illnesses???"
I kept my mouth shut though....if I barked back a reply to every ignorant thing someone said to me I'd have a sore throat 24/7 LOL
Anyway...now I'm just rambling.....
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Oh noo!
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Oh, I'm sorry, I so didn't mean it as a generalization! I'm thinking of someone in particular, let's call him JEFF! Jeff just couldn't be trusted in everyday life to do anyhting, but he used his smoke breaks every 45 minutes to make like he was getting away with it! He used to TAKE NAPS at his desk and act mad if he was woken up! With him, it was diminishing returns all around, and smoking was just a small part of it!!
But what I was saying is that when I worked in Human Resources, we weren't allowed to ask if a person interviewing smoked, but we were trained to look for it. Kinda sneaky of them, but there you are, they didn't want to hire smokers. They even made the interview process extra long on purpose, and took potentiial hirees outside to other buildings to see if they lit up. They didn't want to hire childbearing women either, which tells you what kind of place it was. The name of this place? NASD-Nasdaq! Can you believe it??. True story. I'll never work in HR again!!!!
But the problem was if your job is to be at your desk, and you're not, well a smoke habit can be a problem.
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pilsbury dough girl.. haha michele your hysterical!
I say a tan every once in awhile isn't gonna kill you! haha.
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Nelly!
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You worked at the NASD? Wow, I never knew this. So you know somewhat about what I do for a living...
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Re: Nelly!
#145966 - 02/02/05 03:58 PM
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Why yes I do. I have had many jobs. In that one, I had to sort through resumes and classify them by experience. I also answered benefits questions and gave typing tests to new potential hires. And I coded the current employee work plans to reflect which ones should come up for a pay raise (hint: ALWAYS fill in each blank on performance review cards, especially in the goals section).
But the best part was def helping interview. I got to be the BS detector. Nelly, they said, you're the BS detector. So I took notes on their education and quizzed them about simple stuff they'd have to know to have a, say, history degree. Or economics. Or whatever. The one thing I remember is that the ones who asked about benefits never got the job. Hence I NEVER ask about benefits during a job interview, I wait for them to bring it up.
But most of the experience the people had went mainly over my head, cos I didn't know anything about the securities industry. There's a lot to know, it seems!! And you'd be surprised how many had been suspended for illegal trading!
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I am not ready to get off the soap box and never will. I am not ashamed of my feelings about smoking or drug use or alcholism or pornography or wearing fur. And besides, smoking is bad for IBS so saying some of the negatives of it could make someone who hasn't stopped smoking maybe quit. Really though how many smokers would want a loved one like their child to smoke? and how many people if they went back in time 200 years wouldn't tell people how bad smoking is for health? If people had known lives could have been saved. Like Elizabeth II's father George VI. He was one of the first people to die from smoking where a connection was finally thought of.
I know it isn't pleasant to be told by people that smokers stink (not like IBSers don't!) but they have the right to clean air too. And the cost! I often think of the things I could have had if my dad hadn't been a drunk and smoking loser! Maybe that pony I wanted. I couldn't run for much of my life because my lungs were so awful from second hand smoke and I already mentioned my grandma so I have the right to be offended by smoking. Getting terrible bronchitis every year of my life made me really hate my poor lungs.
Yet I am not really paying attention to anyone here saying they smoke, that is, don't think I will hold it against anyone or anything. Although when people smoke around kids I want to freak out! So I don't think berating a bad dirty habit is wrong. Of course it isn't against the law so my opinion doesn't mean anything, but I hope it can be respected as an opinion and nothing more.
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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Re: sorry but
#146033 - 02/02/05 06:33 PM
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I respect your opinion and I agree that smoking is a terrible habit.
However, I think there are many other things that are just as bad that get overlooked because they are more "socially acceptable". It bothers me that people find it completely acceptable to say to a smoker "you have a disgusting habit, you stink, you're ruining my air" but we would never even think about saying to someone who has an obescity problem "you should eat less, you look disgusting, etc."
I'm not trying to offend anyone by saying this!!! Please don't think I am.....but honestly....it just bothers me that smokers get talked down to and berated all the time while people with other addictions/bad habits get overlooked.
If I've offended anyone just tell me and I'll gladly delete this post....but I just wanted to voice my opinion as well.
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Ok well first of all you say your not ready to get off your soap box how about that High Horse you riding? Are you telling me you have no bad habbits that would offend someone or upset somenone! Weren't you the one who got poision Ivy on her butt from peeing in the bushes? Well I think that is gross and disgusting.
In other words people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
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Well, it beats the meth habit I used to have, which really was antisocial. Baby steps, eh?
Most smokers are as considerate as they can be, especially around non-smokers. I don't smoke inside, or in the car, or at cafes and bars if I'm with non smokers, and I think you'd find most of the smokers here are the same. There's not so much smokers and non-smokers, as considerate people and rude busstuds.
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THANK YOU FROM A SMOKER!!!!
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