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Tired and depressed
      #13465 - 07/08/03 09:24 AM
Corinne

Reged: 05/19/03
Posts: 202
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

I just need a place to rant a little I guess. My son (18 months) has not been sleeping well lately (he's taking Ventolin for his asthma) and as a result I'm not sleeping so have had more attacks than usual lately. I'm D and sometimes pretty severe. I'm afraid to leave my house even to go into the backyard some days. I haven't taken my kids for a walk in three weeks when I had a bad attack while walking to the 7-11. Thank God they had a bathroom even though I almost didn't make it. I ended up stopping at my brother's house and waiting till my husband could walk home and get the car and come and get me. Just before that I had had 2 weeks with no symptoms. Now it seems like every other day is questionable.

I'm afraid to go out so I'm not getting my walks in although I am doing yoga every night (well some I just can't manage it due to being out or whatever). I'm using Imodium when it's really bad and I have to leave the house for whatever reason. I'm a mom so I don't have to go out to work and am eternally grateful for that. Sorry to ramble but there is no one I can really talk to here. My husband is VERY understanding but he doesn't have it so can't really understand. I'm feeling kind of lonely I guess. I have a friend with IBS but we haven't really sat down to talk about it as usually our kids and husbands and others are around and it's not exactly something that is usually discussed in regular (HA HA) conversation.

I am also getting depressed at the thought of my period showing up this week. Our church group is planning a three hour drive to the lake and spend the day there. My husband can't come as he has to work and I'll be driving with some friends and their kids. Then church on Sunday and I am helping with worship.

Sorry this is so long. I'm feeling really sorry for myself at the moment and afraid. I'm going to make a more concerted effort to get my walks in or start an aerobics video but it's hard with kids and I don't want to lose too much time with my husband in the evenings. Any advice from anyone would be helpful. Thanks.



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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13530 - 07/08/03 04:53 PM
annie

Reged: 07/08/03
Posts: 7
Loc: Washington, DC

Hang in there -- just remember, this is a bad spell, and it WILL get better. If you're feeling really depressed, would you consider going to talk to someone, a counselor of some sort? I have found it immensely helpful (I have terrible D as well, and am currently unable to go to work because of it, so I know how depressing it can be).
Also, you didn't say in your posting -- are you taking some kind of soluble fiber? Citrucel or Metamucil? It is absolutely essential. Immodium is good for emergencies but isn't, of course, a long-term solution.

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13532 - 07/08/03 05:01 PM
Corinne

Reged: 05/19/03
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

I am taking metamucil on a regular basis. I hate having to take the Imodium but at least then I'm not chained to the bathroom all day. Thanks for your support.

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13551 - 07/08/03 07:01 PM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

Corinne, your post reminded me of some of my worst days and I know just how you feel. I also think you must be a Christian from some of the things you posted, and I am one, too, so I will tell you something that has been incredibly encouraging to me this summer concerning my IBS. I was completely overwhelmed, terrified to leave the house, fearful, discouraged, and had "lost heart" in April but decided to spend the summer spending as much time as I could studying passages in scripture about fear, anxiety, the Lord's provision, peace in the midst of trials, yieldedness, and health. I am still studying, since it's still summer, but am beginning to feel encouraged and at peace for the first time in a very long time. If you're interested I can share what passages I have studied this summer. It really helped me to focus on Christ's adequacy for all our needs, and if you are a believer it will be an encouragement to you as well, I'm sure.

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13558 - 07/08/03 07:52 PM
Corinne

Reged: 05/19/03
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

Thank you! I am a believer. You are right about that and I am quite a young Christian. I have attended church for over 10 years but just one year ago truly found Jesus. I would love to hear which scriptures you are studying. I make time each day for the Bible but I don't make enough time to study it the way I want. Please share them with me. The times I am most at peace is when I am helping to lead worship at our church. Each day I get closer and closer to Jesus but when these times occur I feel that He is so far away. Thank you! Your words have already brightened my day!

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13651 - 07/09/03 02:49 PM
busymom

Reged: 06/30/03
Posts: 90
Loc: Michigan

I saw on one of the other posts that your AOL chat name is atalantask. Is that correct? My chatname on AOL instant messenger is manyinmans. I added you to my Buddy List. It would be great to be able to chat back and forth through IM about this and to encourage one another easier.

Let me find out from you what Bible study tools you have, since you're a young Christian. Do you have a Strong's concordance, a lexicon, or a Bible handbook? What translation are you using for your daily bible study? Is it a translation you can easily understand?

The passages of scripture I have worked through for the past two years have had the focus, first of all, of getting to know the Lord. You can't deepen your relation with someone unless you really know them. They can't be your "ever present help in time of need" if you don't understand how they think, and what they want, and what their goals are. Some of the passage I have used for deepening my knowledge of who the Lord is: studying the entire book of John, one chapter per week, Psalm 23, 27, 103, 145, 139, 107, 1 John. Of course, this list isn't exhaustive. I'm still studying and working on knowing Him better.

My focus this summer has been on fear, anxiety, trials, and yieldedness to God's will for my life because of the panic attacks and fear I have been suffering from due to my IBS. I needed to find how Christ could meet this need. Could He really BE my ever present help in time of need? I decided conversing with the Lord about this would be my top priority of the summer, so was spending two to three hours a day in the early part of the summer. Since I was terrified to leave the house, I figured it was a good use of my time. I am getting victory over the terror, am still studying 1 - 2 hours a day now, and am really deepening my walk with the Lord.

Some of the questions I wanted to deal with this summer were: Why is God allowing this to happen in my life? What good can He be intending from this since we know as Christians that all things work together for our good (Romans 8: 28-39)? Can I place myself in a position of yieldedness and trust His sovereignty? As a believer you know these are weighty issues that are where the rubber meets the road, so to speak. Does our faith have answers we need, or not? What I found was, it does indeed have answers we need in crisis.

I started into 1 Peter 1: 1 - 13, which lead me to study faith and trials since they are both addressed. What role does faith play in how we interpret our trials? Where do we get our faith to believe that God will cause all things to work together for our good?

To study faith and trials in more depth, I moved into Hebrews 11 - 12:15 where I gleaned wonderful, encouraging truths. I looked at Heb. 10: 19 - 23, and Eph. 2: 8 - 9 using my Strong's concordance, lexicon, and bible handbook. I found so many answers during this phase of my study on what I am to meditate on when I am afraid ("fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith".....Heb. 12:2). I dug in deep with the Lord about my lack of trust during all the trials that had set off the IBS in the firstplace, and really came to some new understanding.

Then, I moved into a study of the word "believe". Do I believe what I should? What do I believe? Here I spent time studying specific things Jesus said to His disciples when they were afraid He couldn't take care of them. All the instances when they were afraid involved times that Jesus told them they had "little faith" when they should have trusted Him. I discovered Jesus wanted His disciples to "cry out" to get immediate help in dealing with their fear.

These passages I studied were Mark 9: 14 - 30, Matthew 17: 14 - 20, Matthew 6: 19 -34; 8: 23 - 27; 14: 22 - 33; 16: 5-12; Luke 12: 22 - 32: John 10: 10.

I then moved on directly to handling anxiety. Of course Philippians 4: 4 - 9 is the passage that comes immediately to mind concerning this, so I studied it in depth. I hadn't realized until I did this study that a key phrase for coping with anxiety is "The Lord is near", which is planted right in the middle of that passage. Do we always remember that He is near, right here, completely aware of our trials? Indeed, crafting them to make us into the people He wants us to be.

I then studied "potter and clay" passages as a follow up, moving into the area of yieldedness: Ephesians 2: 8 - 10 (not stopping at v. 9), Romans 9: 21, Isaiah 64: 4 - 9, Proverbs 3: 5 - 12, Luke 12: 18 - 21, Isaiah 8: 11 - 13; Jeremiah 5:3; 32:33, James 1: 2 - 4.

Now I am in Psalms 34 and have been seeing over and over again what you discovered while leading worship. There is power in praise. After Psalm 34 I am moving on to Psalm 37.

There are probably two years worth of Bible studies here. This is a slow process. It takes us a long time to re-train our emotions which have been habituated to fear. At the same time, I am focusing on implementing all the dietary principles from Heather's book. You have to address both body and soul. If you address the whole of your self you will get better. God is with you.

I'd like to chat and talk with you as you go through these scriptures if you decide to walk your way down this path. It has been worth every single hour I have invested. Applying the dietary information and changing how I eat and planning ahead has been worth it, too. I am feeling encouraged for the first time in many, many years. God bless you, Corinne, you are not alone.

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13658 - 07/09/03 03:45 PM
Corinne

Reged: 05/19/03
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

For starters thank you very much for your words of encouragement and your passages and advice. I have three or four bibles in the house some that are moderately good and some that I can readily understand. I also have the Bible Reader's Companion.

I hope to get a start on that very soon. I usually study my bible in the evening once my kids go to bed.

The chat name is actually for MSN Messenger as we no longer have AOL. We had it for awhile but we got highspeed from our local server. Sorry about that. Feel free to write me at home though. my email is: cbrownlee@sasktel.net

I have to stop there as my kids are yelling for me but I want to read through your post more carefully before I truly respond. I just wanted you to know I've received it and am looking at it.

Thanks again. It's nice to know I'm not alone. God be with you.

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Re: Tired & depressed - busymom & Corinne.... new
      #13663 - 07/09/03 05:24 PM
KaybeeC

Reged: 03/14/03
Posts: 241
Loc: Ohio

Oh, my, what a blessing! Corinne and busymom:

I accepted Christ as my Savior and Lord seven years ago - and I've been struggling lately. Your posts have dovetailed with where I am. I've been asking the Lord to bring me back to my first love, to that time when I would rather be with Him, immersed in His Word, than anywhere.

I'm recuperating from a total hysterectomy for endometrial cancer (no symptoms, the Lord just prompted me to ask for an extra test that my former gyn did! If I hadn't had the test, the cancer would have continued to grow, undetected, for who knows how long? No more treatment needed! Praise Him!) And, I started a new job right before I was diagnosed - very stressful training and I just found out that I might not get the job permanently because of missing four weeks due to the surgery. So, I've been very, very tired lately and a little depressed and anxious. When my study Bible became too cumbersome for me recently, I went back to my Women's Devotional Bible to find the topics I wanted to read about, such as fear, trust, obedience, then read the corresponding Scripture passages. Then, when I realized I still wasn't being consistent in setting aside time, and was just so distracted, I found a Daily Reading Bible (not sure that's actually the title - I left it at my mom's today) which takes you through the Bible in two years. I don't have to depend on a reading plan - it's already divided into daily sections of both OT and NT, with meditations and prayers. It's easier to "stay on track" right now with this plan, and get back to some discipline. I could also recommend the New Believer's Bible as a very user-friendly edition - it's well organized and has Biblical principles and "stepping stones" throughout - very helpful even now! I miss the days when I didn't have to work, when I could unplug the phone and just curl up with the Word. I have two concordances (my uncle recommends Strong's - but I couldn't figure out how to use it at first - it helps to read the instructions at the front!) and Henrietta Mears' "What The Bible is All About". But one of the most helpful "quick" references for me is Nelson's "New Illustrated Bible Dictionary." It's just wonderful for getting insight into the culture,customs and geography of Biblical times and for mini-bios on the people of the Bible. It has photos and maps, too. These are the kinds of things that I put on my birthday list!

Besides His Word, God has blessed me with a church full of wonderful, mature, unselfish women who have nurtured me along the way! I pray that you ladies, too, have that blessing. And isn't it wonderful to be able to relate long-distance, without knowing each other? I'm always excited to meet my "sisters"!

Corinne, one of my favorite passages to use as a prayer is Colossians I:9-14. I change the pronouns and turn this into a prayer for others, but I also use it to pray for myself - to ask God to give me a "complete understanding of what He wants to do" in my life, to ask Him to "make me wise with spiritual wisdom", all the way down to thanking Him for "rescuing me.....and bringing me into the Kingdom of His dear Son." Another great prayer passage is Ephesians 3:14-21. I do this with the Psalms, as well - I pray them right back to the Lord and find immediate comfort. Do you make notes in your Bible? Some people do, others aren't comfortable with that. I love to jot a note about something the Lord tells me through a particular passage, with the date, as a sort of spiritual marker. Some passages have several dates - He apparently has to tell me more than once! Sometimes, by the Psalms, I just write, "Thank you, Lord".

I am eternally grateful that He is always near, just as busymom points out - and He goes before us and prepares the way for us, too. I pray, Corinne, that He will go before you and prepare the way for your church outing. Just a note here: the enemy loves to discourage us from fellowship - he will do whatever he can to keep us from worship or church activities, or volunteering for God's work, etc. A dear friend and prayer partner, who is very sensitive to the Holy Spirit, noticed that every month, when I had a day-long ministry commitment that required my presence - and about 200 people were depending on me - I would frequently have an IBS attack either the day before, when I was doing last-minute prep, or the day of the event. She started praying for me the week before the event - faithfully! Because of the insight the Lord had given her, and she had shared with me, I started taking Imodium a few days before the event each month and certainly on the day of the event - and this was before I was diagnosed with IBS! Take heart and remember that "Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world."

I'll be praying for you, Corinne. Would you be able to share your concern about the outing with one or two other friends from church so that they, too, could pray for you? It's been very freeing to me to be able to share my health concerns with a few trusted friends. Prayer is powerful: Psalm 65:5 says, "You faithfully answer our prayers with awesome deeds, O God our Savior." He is loving, kind, compassionate and faithful to His children! Busymom, I've printed out your long post with Scripture passages - God has used you to encourage me, too!

Blessings to you both,
Kaybee C

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Re: Tired & depressed - busymom & Corinne.... new
      #13665 - 07/09/03 05:44 PM
Trish

Reged: 01/29/03
Posts: 123
Loc: Australia

Wow, what a blessing, I too am a Christian, I have been for about 10 years but am struggling too with what is happening and trying to stay focussed and close to my Lord. I am going to copy your scriptures and go through them as well. It is so nice to meet other Christians on here.

Trish

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Re: Tired and depressed new
      #13698 - 07/10/03 06:26 AM
Georgia

Reged: 07/06/03
Posts: 52
Loc: Granite City, IL

I too am a Christian and want to thank you for your words of encouragement and scripture to review. Last summer I took off 7 weeks (during the summer) because the IBS was taking control of my life and my health was suffering so badly. Through counseling I found ways to de-stress my life that I could incorporate when I went back to work. I also made a decision to leave my job w/ the State in 4 years (after I had my 20 in) and during that time I would make new discoveries about myself to determine where my life would be headed at that time. Then we were offered an Early Retirement Incentive and even tho I was too young to retire (I was 39) I did have the time in and could reap the benefits of being there for 22 years by buying 5 thru the buyout. I made my decision w/in a 4-week timeframe and felt it was the right thing for me to do. My husband didn't like seeing my health suffer, but was concerned about the financial aspect if I wasn't working. I took off a few months ("retired" 12/31/02) and really started looking for a job the beginning of April. I haven't found anything yet and am getting very discouraged. About 3 weeks ago I felt a few signs of depression start to come over me again and I've been trying to deal with that. I was very hopeful about a job I recently applied for and on Monday of this week found out it wasn't going to happen. I was shattered. After collecting myself I started thinking about how things are for me right now - feeling run down, getting sick, then having terrible attacks from the antibiotics - I realized that I hadn't been praying like I usually do. Since realizing this I've begun really trying to focus on that, but it's been an effort. Thank you for sharing your stories and for passing on the gift of Christianity to others thru your words. You have really helped me today. Thank you.

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