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Ruchie, How are you doing?
      #109764 - 10/02/04 08:07 AM
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Hey Ruchie! Just checking up on ya to see how you are feeling? Hope you are feeling better!

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Christie, you're SO SUPER SWEET!!! new
      #109901 - 10/02/04 10:38 PM
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Tissy Christie,

I was away for the Jewish holiday. I had a hard time. I was in SO MUCH PAIN! Yesterday and today were pretty ok for the most part. I'm thoroughly EXHAUSTED (I'm on a med tghat helps to keep me awake at night...as if I wasn't having problems with that already!) and I can't seem to sleep more than 3 hours at a time. I didn't even realizre this was going on until I started reading posts here about fibro.

I bought Firbo for Dummies. I was SO DEPRESSED over the holiday! I feel like a freak...some days I feel okay some days horrible...I was beginning tot hink it was depression...

Hubby insosts it's not in my head~! And now that I'm learning more about fibro, I'm bginning to agree with him. I bought myself a sleep mask...I'm ginna try it out tonight. Btw, does Aleeve (sp) work for fibro?

I will be going to my rheumatologist for the 1st time Oct 11th. I hope he's a great doc and that he will be supportive.

I willw rite more tomorrow...for bnow I gotta eat and go to SLEEP! (Falling asleep isn't usually my prob...it's stayinh asleep! I hope the sleep maska nd my relaxing music help!)

Thanks again Christie...I hope YOU'RE doing great! Btw, any new news on your bro? Will he be home fo the holidays?

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      #109907 - 10/03/04 02:22 AM
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Glad to hear you're starting to come to terms with it being Fibro and realising it's not in your head! Sorry you feel so rotten.

ALeve, is that a painkiller? I think I've heard it mentioned on FibroHugs, but I'm not sure WHAT I read! Sorry, hopefully, LauraSue can help!

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      #109908 - 10/03/04 02:59 AM
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Okay, I've looked up Aleve on FibroHugs. First thing is that it's an anti-inflammatory painkiller (like Ibuprofen I guess) and although these can help the Fibro pain, they're not great as we don't get inflammation, so their big "plus" is no good. Secondly, they're not very strong. The consensus on FibroHugs seems to be that you need something better than ALeve.

I take paracetamol for my so-so days and Co-codamol (paracetamol and codeine) for the baddies. Anything you can get with codeine in will help, but I don't know your brands, so I can't say what.

Hope that helps some. {{{HUGS}}}

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      #109909 - 10/03/04 03:08 AM
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I just remembered something I saw in my local Fibro support group's newletter. 63% of members surveyed listed Sinus/catarrh (sp?) problems as an associated condition of their Fibro. Thought you might be interested in that! IBS topped the list.

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Ruchie- I hope your having a great sukkot... new
      #109925 - 10/03/04 06:44 AM
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despite all the health issues! I know I am... even with a major case of C- actually that helped some.. and even eating my own food wasn't a bit deal at camp... actually had some people jealous...

getting to do mikveh outdoors in the cold in a lake is an amazing, wonderful experience.. its part of why I go to camp each year.. we start early fri with arts and crafts and mikveh, and the guys get the sukkah built that we use there... then shabbos dinner and services and singing in front of the fireplace in the lodge (we rent a UCC camp, so the camp director stays up to do do the fire, and we have staff hired to cook, etc.. ) then last night we had a big campfire, again Jeff started it for us, we did havdalah and a sukkot service up there (they did another service in the sukkah this AM, but I drove back late last night) and then the kids made smores and roasted marshmellows and we sang peace and judaic and hebrew songs and told stories... then the kids went to bed and the musicians came out.. we had a klezmer trombonist, and 2 klezmer fiddlers and 4 guitars and wow- wonderful music, dancing, and song... I didn't head home until after midnight and I had to work this AM...

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No more pain, gotta get some sleep, and what is morning stiffness anyway new
      #109938 - 10/03/04 08:11 AM
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Thanks Linz!

I will not be seeing my rheumatologist until a week from tomorrow! I am going to call tom and see if I can get an earlier appointment...this is out of control! It's been WEEKS since I've slept more than 3.5 hours at a tijme...and the pian gets wors every day (although Fri and Sat I felt pretty good all day and then last night--wham!)

they have checked me for everything! If it's NOT fibro I will be shocked and get a 2nd opinon. I don't have hypothyroid, arthritis is an autoimmune probn (which I've tested negative for several times in the past year with blood work), etc. Thak G-d for these boards and for Christie telling us her story of getting diagnosed. Linz, I rewcall when you were having problems with this last year...and I thought no way could I have this and I crossed it off my list. I didn't have ba pain and I slept a ton...so I figueds it couldn't be fibro (I didnt say I got GOOD sleep...I just slept forver).

Ok...so...

What I can do for the pain without a doc? I bought a sleep mask and I took a hot shower before bed. what else can I do?

And what's morning stiffness? I have a whole questionarre to fill ouit for the rheumatologist...and one of the questions is "do you get morning stiffness" and "how long has this been going on"? Knowing what morning stiffness is will def. assist me in answering the question

I am SO THANKFUL for this board! I am beginning to feel that I'm not alone and it' not in my head...even if the symptoms come andgo and are better/worse some days than others.

Thanks a MILLION!

With love to my fibro firneds

Ruchie

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Re: Ruchie- I hope your having a great sukkot... new
      #109939 - 10/03/04 08:15 AM
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Wow! It sounds like you had a super time--that's so great!!!

Succos has not been easy for me...but that's okay. I feel like, G-d willin, I'm on my way to getting to the bottom of why Iv'e been so sick...and that has me chin up

Thanks foe asking! Whata re your plan for the rst of the holiday? enjoy!

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Re: No more pain, gotta get some sleep, and what is morning stiffness anyway new
      #109941 - 10/03/04 08:18 AM
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Ruchie
I am so happy you are getting to go to a doctor about the fibro! Morning stiffness is when you wake up and it hard to move. Everthing feels soar and stiff. Like you over did it the day before and all the muscels hurt and are hard to get moving. At least that is what I think of as morning stiffness someone else might be able to explain it better. I hope you feel better soon. BIG HUGS

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Re: Ruchie- I hope your having a great sukkot... new
      #109969 - 10/03/04 11:54 AM
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working today, off Thurs/Fri for simhat torah and Shmini azeret.. services and rest and lots of fun at Simhat torah services.. hopefully get some R&R and not sure yet where we'll go for simchat torah... either Hillel where dads friend is leading services and singing... Chabbad, or my shul where my friends who play Klezmer are doing a jam session for the hakafot.. same crew we heard motsei shabbos last night.. and a few additionals.. we'll see depending on mood and when we get out the door- the services are all starting at different times..

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Re: No more pain, gotta get some sleep, and what is morning stiffness anyway new
      #109970 - 10/03/04 11:57 AM
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Ruchie, glad you got a sleep mask and took a hot shower to help you sleep. Aleve helps a little but it's also an IBS trigger so I have to take it with Imodium and don't take it every day. Extra-strength Tylenol (or the store brand equivalent) is the best thing I've found over the counter, but you have to take it right on time every 4 hours (sometimes I even take it after 3.5 hours) and 4 times a day, because if you wait til you're already in pain to take it, it doesn't work as well. (Your central nervous system gets all hyper and won't calm down!)

Also, Benadryl is an over the counter antihistimine that is also used as a sleeping pill. Again, buy the store brand because it's cheaper and take two about an hour before bedtime. It will make your mouth a little dry but you'll sleep much better. It actually helps you get the Stage 4 deep sleep that you need to heal and rest.

I'm so glad you bought Fibro for Dummies! My personal trainer at the gym said she saw it in a book store and it looked really great. The more information you can get, the better you can manage the fibro.

Good for you!! YAYAYAYAYAY, RUCHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      #109974 - 10/03/04 12:10 PM
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LauraSue,

Thank for writing back

I will try the tylenol (I'm already in major pain, but it can't hurt right?) And I'm IBS C so so Aleeve might help in that dept.

I'm on Levaquin right now so I'll have to see if I can take Benadryl while on it (Levaquin already gives me dry mouth...but I need sleep so blady!)

Should I be so convinced it's foibro? Is that ok without a diagnosis? Btw, I don't think I get morning stiffness...maybe I do and don't know it? Is there a place I can get a real good defention of it?

I like the Fibro for dummies so far. Good stuff. their books are usually pretty informative

The sleep mask is WONDERFUL! Now I think I need tog et earplugs...any you recommend? I told my hubby that the cars outdise even wake me up...he couldn't believe it!

I've read a LOT on fibro in the past week or so (when I have the energy to sit at the puter). With all the things docs ruked out and all the tests and my symtpotms...it's surpirisng no one ever put 2 & 2 together!

I'm just SO THANKFUL that I might get better! I really thin i will...and I really think I'm gonna be ok. Just reading about the pian cycle and how you can get scared to go out or scared your szymptoms will flare and this makes it worse and all this stuff about the cycle...I was SO RELIEVED! I feel like I'm not alone anymore! *phew* I have felt SO ALONE for so many years...first with my tummy troubles and now with this. But I know I'm not alone anymore....WOW! I can't say that enough LOL

Thakns LS for ehlping me figure all of this out! You recommended OA and you're helping with fibro....I just can't thank you enough *hugs*

Love ya LS!

Ruchie

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RuchieLove! FIBRO!? NOT YOU TOO!!!!! new
      #109975 - 10/03/04 12:13 PM
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I'm sorry to hear you've been "bitten by the fibro frog" as LS put it once. that is awful. but at least you're on to something with the diagnosis. let me know how the Rhumy visit goes, will ya?

as for the sleep mask, how's that helping? i bought one but can't use it 'cause it puts too much pressure on my nose. (stupid, i know, to those of you without fibro, but these things can be terribly painful to us!) i know LS loves hers, though, proving that fibro is different in all of us!

most of us, though, don't get a lot of help from pain meds. things like Alleve work on inflamation, which we don't generally have. fibro is about misfiring nerves. it unfortuntaly requires heavy duty drugs and they often don't work, or work for long.

i switch up my pain meds a lot. i have a prescription med that i take on my bad days, but sometimes take mega-doses of Excedrin. i also have migraine meds for those days. (i hate the migraine days!)

my saving grace is my Skelaxin. it's a non-drowsy muscle relaxant and it can really help a lot.

morning stiffness.... uck. i have that. when i get up in the morning, i feel about 100 years old. i can't bend my legs and my toes and feet are all cramped up. i usually limp for about 1/2 hour when i get up. a hot shower usually helps, plus some gentle stretching after. usually, though, i can't put my heels on 'til i get downstairs 'cause even after the shower and stretching i am too stiff and wobbly to get down the stairs in heels. (ridiculous!)

keep posting about fibro, Ruchie. hopefully we can help. LS and Linzy were a great resource for me when i started. if only Linzy would stop using the British names for meds, we'd be great! (paracetamol is basicall aspirin, in case you wanted to know! but somehow it works better. i have my friend in England bring me some when she comes to visit!)

SMOOCHES to you, Ruchie!

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Re: RuchieLove! FIBRO!? NOT YOU TOO!!!!! new
      #109978 - 10/03/04 12:23 PM
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JenX!!! *hugs*

You mean I'm not crazy? I used a headband (stretchy material) to block out the light on the holiday and it HURT MU NOSE so bad I couldn't use it! LOL Hubby thinks I'm nuts I bought a sating eye mask last night at a groverry here and it helped...had to get it "just so" on my nose or OPUCH!

How are you doing Jen? I'll def. let you know what Rhumy says :-)

I don't thin i have moning stiffness. Is that a requirmenet for fibro? I used tog et RIGHT out of bed...now I have to lay there a while. I'm not sure that's the same thing though?

today is an off day for me. I woke up in them iddle of the night in pian and I'm STILL IN PAIN (but not as bad). I haven't doen a thing around the house and it's noon here already. I'm so tired I had to force myself to eat breakfast (that helped a bit with the energy...but not oo much)!

How do you guys work or spend time with friends or gorcery shop or ANYTHING? Last week I couldn't even get in the car (wouldn't do it today either) I was so tire and achey! I just lay in bed most of the day some days (this has been going on for ovwr a year...more like 2 years now!) When I taught kindergarten, I cam home and went straight to sleep most days! Last year I got fired or I quit my jobs I was just too sick! how do you guys live normal lives like this?!

i hope you're feeling good thewse days Jen *hugs* Keep in touch...thanks for always being there for me!

Love ya Jen!

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if you're crazy, Ruchie, then so am i! new
      #109991 - 10/03/04 12:51 PM
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yeah, fibro is a blast. *rolls eyes* the nose thing is freaky, huh? i can't even wear my prescription glasses, 'cause they pinch the bridge of my nose too much. well, that's all ok, 'cause fibro can also cause your prescription to change, which mine did. for a long time my glasses were great (when i could bear them on my nose!), but then i started getting migraines every day at work. took me a while, but i finally realized that i didn't get a headache if i didn't put my glasses on. HOW ANNOYING!

so... welcome to the land of fibro. at least your hubby sounds supportive! you may have to remind him you're not crazy from time to time, but i think all women have to remind their hubbies that!

i don't believe morning stiffness is a requirement for fibro. what they really check out is trigger points and how long you've had pain and exhaustion. other than that, the symptoms are so different from person to person, there's no way we can pin down the symptoms! for example, i think LS has allodynia, which is pain on the skin from even the lightest touches (clothing, for example). i don't have that at all. in fact, when i get a massage, i prefer a stronger touch, even though it usually triggers more pain for a day or two afterwards. i get a lot of deeper muscle pain and joint-type pain, though i have had some skin layer stuff before (like the creepy crawlies i had this Spring). i also get a lot of hot flashes and cold flashes. anything a nerve can do, fibro can recreate at will and randomly! ridiculous.

Ruchie, i don't know how you feel about medication, but you've GOT TO beg your doctor for Ambien. it's amazing. lots of the sleep medications leave you groggy in the morning, but it doesn't at all. and a lot of sleep meds (especially the over the counter stuff and Benadryl) prevent you from getting Stage 4 sleep, which is the sleep we fibomyalgics need and aren't getting. Ambien puts you right into Stage 4. Some tips, though: you need to take it right before you fall asleep. do not try to do anything on the Ambien, no matter how controlled you feel! i took it one night and didn't feel sleepy or drugged at all, so i sat in bed and "trimmed my cuticles." well, let me tell ya, Ruchie, i woke up with every single finger bloody. i had no idea i had made such a botch-job of it. i had bandaids on my fingers for a week. it was awful. also, you'll sleep really soundly on the Ambien, so be careful. i would sleep through a fire alarm, i know it, so i won't take the Ambien if i'm the only one in the house. it wears off after 4 hours, for me, so i have to take another one in the middle of the night. i don't know if that happens to everyone or not. but Ruchie, Ambien is my savior! it has really made such a difference. i am DRAMATICALLY less worn out and painful when i'm taking it. it's amazing what sleep can do for you! it took me about a week originally to get up-to-speed, but really that's quite amazing, considering i, like you, hadn't slept in about 2 years!

anyway, that's how i get up and accomplish things, Ruchie: getting Stage 4 sleep. I can't get my Ambien refilled right now because of a problem with my insurance and i haven't slept in 2 weeks. now i'm so achy and painful it's pathetic. i went to the Giant to buy groceries and was worn out after. i've had to cancel all my plans this weekend 'cause i'm just not up to anything. can't wait to get that Ambien! You weren't on the boards this Spring when I was so sick, but Ruchie, you're not alone in not wanting to get in the car. i spent weeks on the couch.... it was terrible. i beat myself up about it for a while, 'til i got a strong lecture from Linzy, Bevrs and LS. they told me what i'm going to tell you: make sure you take the time your body needs. if you need to rest, then do it. you can get past a lot of it, but not if you push yourself too much. know your limits! do a little, then rest. that's the way to survive fibro. that and Stage 4 sleep! but i will say this, too: try your best to get a little stretching time every day, and try to take a tiny little walk in the fresh air, even if it's only for 3 minutes. sitting on the couch or lying in the bed actually made me feel a lot more painful 'cause of the inactivity. trust me!

SMOOCHES, Ruchie. Luv ya right back!

*j

(Ruch, you and i are really similar, sweets. it's kinda eeire all the things we have in common!)

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LS is great, ain't she!? new
      #109993 - 10/03/04 12:57 PM
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Ruchie,

not trying to overwhelm you with all my talking, but you know i have too much to say!

if it makes you a little hopeful, i feel that my IBS is related to the fibro. once i started getting some sleep, i have been able to eat whatever i want. when i get tired or really stressed, i go back to the Eating for IBS plan, but when i'm feeling a-ok, i can have my coffee in the morning and even McDonalds! can you believe it!? and that's coming from the girl who had diarrhea for a year straight!!

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JenX...I'm SO OUT OF IT! forgive me not responding with more than a *HUGE HUG* and a HUGE THANK YOU! new
      #109999 - 10/03/04 01:13 PM
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I am oign to take a hot shower and try and do a bit of yoga. I will write more later tonight I hope I'll be up fir it!

Love ya!

Ruchie...P.S. We aRE simsilair...no one else I'd rather be like *hugs*

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Ruch: no worries! if anyone can understand, it's me! :) LOVE YA. -nt- new
      #110001 - 10/03/04 01:15 PM
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She's our guru! new
      #110012 - 10/03/04 02:11 PM
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Love you guys! If it wasn't for this board, Heather and you lot, I'd have NEVER been diagnosed. I was going to doctors for a DECADE with symptoms that add up to classic Fibro and not a single doctor mentioned it.

Ruchie, honey, I diagnosed myself 6 months ago and only just recently got round to getting a doctor to confirm this! I'd been banging my head against brick doctors for so long I didn't give a damn about diagnosing myself - I know my body way better than anyone else could. You sound like a classic case.

The others have given a pretty good description of morning stiffness. I find I only tend to get it bad when I have to drag myself out of bed early for work or something. If I lie in bed all nice and warm, I tend to not be so stiff.

You guys MUST have paracetamol over there. I'll find out some brand names. My FIL works in Pharmaceuticals, so he should know. Paracetamol isn't a brand-name, it's a drug, like aspirin, but unlike asprin it doesn't thin your blood. It's supposed to be safer and it doesn't affect your stomach like ibuprofen (Aleve?).

Get some drugs Ruchie!

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Re: Ruch: no worries! if anyone can understand, it's me! :) LOVE YA. -nt- new
      #110016 - 10/03/04 02:17 PM
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jen,

i took your advice...and i got up and walked around a bit...and it really helped! i'm less stiff! thanks! *hugs*

i am TOTALY going to pamper myself! I am going to buy votive candle holders since I can't use my scented candles anymore...I'll make sure they're colored (the holders) to brighten up my world I'm going to look for a heat sac (the kind they sell at the mall) to put on my neck while my back aches so I can use both simultaneously. I am going to keep posting on these boards and on fibrohugs. I am ogibng to tkae meds for my pain (something I used to shy away from...well guess what? IT HURTS and if I can do something to lessen the pain, I'm worth it!)

Any other pampering suggestions and I'm all ears

Seriously, Jen, how are you doing these days? When will you be able to take Ambien again? That's so not cool thta your insur. co. is doing that to you! PLEASE feel better soon! *hugs*

Love ya girl!

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      #110020 - 10/03/04 02:23 PM
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That she is!

Linz,

I THINK ibprofen and aleeve are diff. But I'm sure someone else will know better...

I guess if you can diagnose yourself, than I got the fibro frog! May sound strange,....but I'm kinda happy about it. I feel like I can DO something with my symptoms. But Linz, what did you do about getting drugs? Without a doc writing you a scrpit how'd you manage? I want to take somehting but there's so much out there, I don;'t know whwere to start...

Seriously...how do you guys go to work every day? What do you on days you can't get out of bed or even drive anywhere?

I think you ladies are AMAZING! I'm wondering how i can start a fam like this? (I'm hoping it's much better once you get some meds in ya?) Emotionally I'm feeling better just knowing I'm not alone and that it's not in my head and that it's prob fibro.

Whoa...major diff. focusing going on...be back later...

love,
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      #110021 - 10/03/04 02:23 PM
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Yay, that's my girl! Keeping moving really does help - I now want to be a gardener (can you imagine a Fibro-gardener? ) partly because I'm so much better if I'm outside and always moving around.

You take those drugs, okay! Pain is not worth being funny with drugs about. The pain is worst for you than the drugs, and I now what I'd choose even if that wasn't the case! Having had migraines and Fibro for years, I am VERY pro-pain-relief.

You go get those candles! And see if you can handle essential oils. I can cope with those, but NOT many artificial scents in candles, etc. So lavender oil in the bath is great for relaxing. And there are other ones that are good for aching muscles, etc - I must look those up. Hot baths are my luxury atm, especially as the weather gets colder.

{{{HUGS}}}

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      #110025 - 10/03/04 02:30 PM
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Well having had migraines for so long, I know my painkillers! What I'd suggest is that you go to a good pharmacy and ask whoever dispenses the meds for help. They know there stuff and can whittle down to huge selection to something you want. Tell them you have Fibromylagia and that you want the strongest OTC pain relief they can give you. I'd also suggest mentioning paracetamol and codeine, or just codeine.

Once you get accustomed to having Fibro (and to the very IDEA of having Fibro), then you can learn to manage your symptoms. Knowing what pain meds to take and when. Taking whatever other drugs you get, SSRIs or something to help you sleep. Working out how to get the best sleep. Knwoing your limits so that you both don't over do it and also don't stop doing everything. It gets easier, okay.

Gotta go. I'm seriously frogged, typing is becoming VERY slow and I'm suddenly freezing! Bed and a hot water bottle for me! It IS ten-thirty pver here Past my bed-time!

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"banging my head against brick doctors!" love it Linzy! ROTFLMAO! -nt- new
      #110418 - 10/04/04 05:21 PM
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Oh! Fibro! new
      #110420 - 10/04/04 05:26 PM
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Gee, I never thought of that. Fibro! Well, that would be horrible to have it, but great that you would finally have a diagnosis. Then you could treat it. And these super gals can help you.

Would the rhumatologist give you the diagnosis then?

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starting a family..... new
      #110421 - 10/04/04 05:27 PM
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Ruchie,
I know I'm just a single gal, but I tell ya.... this Spring I was in the same boat you're in. I was in so much pain and so miserable... I sometimes just hoped that I'd die (not that I'd do anything to harm myself, but I sort of wished it would all end. I've never felt so desperate!). Anyway, I decided then and there that I would never have kids because there would be no way I could handle it. It wouldn't be fair to them or my (future) husband (God willing!).

Then I met Ambien.

I WILL have kids. I will have a family. It isn't going to be easy, but it's not easy for any mommy. But honey, you'll get a little more of your life back with every hour of Stage 4 sleep you get, I bet. And then things start to look "doable" again. You're stubborn and fiesty like me and Linzy and LS. You're going to kick this fibro to the curb and when it comes back, you're going to do it again. We're not letting some obnoxious frog get us down, now are we!?

Sleep, sleep, sleep.... that's the ticket!

Don't worry. We'll do this together, ok?

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RUCHIE: tennis balls--- can't live without 'em! new
      #110423 - 10/04/04 05:40 PM
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Want another tip, Ruchie!? This is my absolute favorite, but use it slowly 'til you know how you respond. Get a tennis ball and go to your bed or couch. Place it where you have tense muscles (your back, your hips, your shoulders), between you and the couch/bed. Let the weight of your body press the ball and keep it there for a few minutes 'til you feel the muscles relax. (If it's too ouchy, then move the ball a few inches if you can't tolerate it, but I usually wait it out if I can 'cause those are the most dramatic "fixes.") Sometimes this hurts a lot and I start to cry, but believe it or not, you can more often than not actually feel those muscles just losen right up....

When you've worked the same area for a while and you feel up to it, move to the floor (harder surface, more resistance).

Don't work too many areas at one time... Just pick one or two. Sometimes I've gotten a little too crazy and been really sore the next day.

I'm tellin' ya, Ruchie, I feel like a new woman after I've done this with my hips--- who knew!?

The tennis ball thing is especially good after a hot bath/shower and or time on the heating pad. YUM! get everything all loosey goosey first. EXCELLENT!

I'm doing not-so-hot right now, Ruchie. I really would love some sleep! It's so silly... probably no one who doesn't have fibro can understand, but I sleep all night sometimes, but I feel worse than when I went to bed 'cause it's not the right kind of sleep! I am going to throw some phone tantrums tomorrow morning, Ruchie, and hopefully get some Ambien before Friday. I'm really tired and achy. I've had to cancel plans for the last 3 days, and that really makes me mad. There's a cute boy I want to see this weekend and I REFUSE TO LET THE FIBRO STOP ME! (even if i haven't slept)

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fibro + moving around + pain relief.... new
      #110427 - 10/04/04 05:44 PM
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i used to be anti-pain relief, too. boy, did i hate to take stuff (except for cramps--- now THOSE drove me to meds!).

anyway, now i am ALL ABOUT the medications. now, granted, they don't work a lot of the time, but even a little relief for a little while really can help. if i can buy myself 15 minutes of a little less pain, i'm going to do it!

as for the moving around, i am now totally convinced that stretching is important. and believe me, i'm lazy! but i make myself do a few different stretches every hour, just to prevent some of the achies. and i try to get up and walk every few hours, just around the house or out of the building at work. i'm telling you, being still may be all your energy level can handle, but your body needs to move just a little bit or the pain gets even worse. STUPID FROG!

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Re: Oh! Fibro! new
      #110442 - 10/04/04 06:29 PM
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BEVRS!!!

Yp Rheumy gives the diagmosis...GP already thinks this is it (he asked me if it could be Luopus bu I greatfully told him I am negative for autoimmune disease, thank G-d!) Mom asked me if I've been tested for Hodgkins...yikes!

How ya doin Bev? Its so GREAT to have you back!

Yeha, finro is NOT my "ideal" diagnosis...but as long as I sleep at night and the pain is LESS than what it's been...I'll be SUPER DUPER HAPPY!!!! \

L9ove ya my #1

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Re: starting a family..... new
      #110444 - 10/04/04 06:34 PM
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Jen,

I don't know if it's the lack of sleep or WHAT...but your post made me cry!

Of COURSE we;'ll do it together! *hugs* That gave me SUCH reassuarnce that you said that...thank you beyond words!

My doc said Ambien is addictive? have you heard that? that makes me kinda nervous...

WOW! We really ARE similair! Yesterday the pain wa SO BAD I couldn't hug hubby or let him hold my hand. I wanted ti to END (not suicidal, like you said, but it hurt both of us SO MUCH that I was in THAT kind of pain!) I'm STILL in tons of pain as I type...but I BLEIVE it will get better with rh e meds, sleep, and TIME

Jen, I wish you lived closer! We could go for walks, cook for each other when the other one couldn't cook, and lots of fun stuff. Plus, you could meet my cutie puppy!

Ok, off to read the rsts of your posts in this thread

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Re: RUCHIE: tennis balls--- can't live without 'em! new
      #110445 - 10/04/04 06:42 PM
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Jen,

You're SO BRAVE! the thought terrirfes me...in fact, I'm nervous about going to the Rheumy to be tested cause I know he's gonna press HARD and even little touched hurt tight now! I'm thinking about getting a home mesage machine...any tips? I know it'll HURTTTTT but hopefully it will feel better aFRTE!

JEN! I know how you feel about sleep. Sometimes I sleep 2 hours and feel better for an hour...other times I sleep 12 hours and feel AWFUL! It's CRAZY! (Right now 2 hours of sleep is DELICIOUS! Hopefully tonight I'll sleep 5 hours or more....FIVE HOURS sounds ike a dream...in every sense!)

You HAVE tog et some sleep Jen! Should I Fed Ex you some f my Ambien when I get it? et me call those people...then they'll DEF give you what you need! Just let mne at em!!

A cute boy huih? Tell me more! He'd better be AMAZING and of course we get to screen hin if he's ginna be good enough for our Jen!

I just want to tell you I think you're SUPER! You're such a fighter and you won't let the fibro frog croak you out! You croak back at that frog, ya know what I'm sayin?
And you always come out on top! Go get your man (if he's worthy of you!!!)

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Re: fibro + moving around + pain relief.... new
      #110446 - 10/04/04 06:47 PM
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It's funny...when I saw the title of the post with tennis ball in it, I thougt you were gonna suggest using it as a stres sball to keep your fingers/hands moving! LOL

My hands do really hurt right now...I'm fonna have to stop tping...

Jen, hanks or ALL your advice! I'l write more soon

SMOOCHES!

One last uick thing...if I dont' move I grst so stiif! so i know what you're tlkaing aboiut FIBRO FROG, be GONE!

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Ruchie: Ambien is addictive.... kinda. new
      #110912 - 10/06/04 05:03 PM
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The thing is, when you need meds, you're less likely to get addicted to them. Ambien is a hypnotic, so it falls in the "addicitive" and "controlled substance" categories. but, like with some of the painkilers, if you need it, you need it. there's also a little trouble sometimes when you stop it... you can have trouble sleeping for a few nights. but as my Rhumy put it... why take you off? you can't sleep, just stay on it!

i don't have any cravings for it, except when i am out of them and need sleep. that is to say, i don't feel any compulsion AT ALL to take them extra times, like during the day. you know what i'm trying to say?

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Jen...? new
      #111152 - 10/07/04 01:03 PM
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Have you heard of anyone taking them NOT everyday? Sometimes I sleep just fine, but I do want something for the times when I don't and the antihistamines were just making everything worse! Why is it all so difficult??????

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Linz.....? new
      #111256 - 10/07/04 05:36 PM
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Sure, sure. People take it just when they need it! It would be a great plan. You should ask your doc. I need it every night, 'cause I never get Stage 4 sleep, but if you do some/most nights, I don't see why you couldn't get it for nights that you aren't able to sleep.... There's also another drug here in the States called....let's see....I have the frog! I can't remember. I will try to remember and get back to you.

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Re: Ruchie: Ambien is addictive.... kinda. new
      #111784 - 10/09/04 10:09 PM
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Jen,

Thanks! Bte, I tried to post and it dodnt work right before the holiday started (Wednesday evening)...so I'm SO SORRY for the delayed response!

How are you feeling these days? How'd it go with the vute guy?

I am EXAHSUTEd these days and still in pain. I actually knocked over the chair while trying to move and it fell on my arm! *ouch* Thakn G-d hubby was here!!!! He brought me ice...so no bruise!

It's touhg not being able to do things you once were able to...but I'm trying to be positive about it.

Wish me luch!

*hugs*

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Linz........ new
      #111785 - 10/09/04 10:13 PM
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Your post made m want to cry! I know JUST how you feel...and I don't even have a diagnosis yet! The AD is making me gain weight (and I had already gained from the Predsnieon) amnd it's not like I can EXERCISE so much right no (walking to theend of the block is a big deal...but I'm working on it!)

Oh Linz...hang in there! We're all together in this BIG MONSTER of an aillness! *big hugs*

PLEASE e-mail me anytime...sorry I was away for a few days...but I shouldn't be away again for a while!

I really mean it...we fibros gotta stick together, ok?

FEEL GOOD..and remember it's ok to cry!

Love,

Ruchie

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Ruchie new
      #111810 - 10/10/04 09:43 AM
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Hey, girl. Are you getting any sleep?

I know what you mean about how hard it is to not be able to do things you used to.... I went to NY on Friday (sorry, LS, it was a last minute errand!) and it darn-near killed me. I barely exaggerate.

Anyway, I'm exhausted, but happy to be getting my Ambien on Tuesday. YAY!

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Jen, hope you get those meds soon!!! new
      #111901 - 10/10/04 05:09 PM
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Hi Jen!

Oh no...I'm so sorry you had a bad trip Btw, you live in Maryland right?

Well...today hubby and I went to look for a massage machine for me...they're SO EXPENSIVE! If I grt my fibro diagnosis tom. maybe I can get my insurance to help pay for one? If not...I guess my heating pad will suffice for now.

I got 5 hours sleep last night I'm haing D (I was C for over a week!) I was ok until I tried to vacuum...I ONLY did our bedroom...and I want to go beddy bye NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm having soem hard times. I can't form sentences clearly anymore. I drop things left and right. My balance is caput. I ache. Last night the [ain was so severe I cried again. Im TERRIFIED! I am clingin to hubby...I don't know how to tell people I may have to cancel plans last minute...we JSUT movewd here and we don't really know anyone yet...how embarassing!

I have to find a way to cope. The Trazadomne is helping a little...the pian medicines NOT!

Sorry for whining...I'm just so alone in all of this. I hope this doc can help me tom...I'm trying to hang in there.

Thanks for listening *hugs* Hope you have a SUPER day today Jen!

Love,
Ruchie

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Ruchie new
      #112018 - 10/11/04 10:26 AM
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Please don't apologize to me ever again, ok!? You're not "whining," you're COPING! It's fine and you can contact me anytime with stuff like this!

I'm so sorry things are so rough right now. I'm "lucky" in that everone knows I'm sick and that I may have to bow out of plans at the last minute. It's not great, but at least people understand. So far, people aren't getting mad at me...

Ruchie, I got some sleep last night. I actually woke up in a good mood (for the first time in weeks). I took Nyquil as a desperate measure before I fell asleep last night and darned if I didn't sleep! AMAZING! I'm going to have to push my doctor's appt. back tomorrow 'cause I'm broke, so I'm not going to be able to get my Ambien. At least now I know the Nyquil will help 'til I can reschedule!

Ruchie, don't be embarrassed about the vaccuming! I swear, it seems pathetic, don't it!? But do what you can do, then rest. You'll start winning against this fibro one day, and until then take this as a message from the cosmos that you need to slow down!

I don't know about you, but I think the slow thinking, stupid sentences and dropping things is almost worse than the pain, in a way. It sounds silly to say, but really: it's terrible to be low-functioning when you usually can make sentences and hold your keys in your hand! I dropped so many things this morning I couldn't help but laugh... it's ridiculous. And I know how sick I am right now 'cause I can't even figure out how to play my solitaire game. Remember these things, Ruchie, so that when you're feeling better and you feel the Fibro Frog sneaking up on you, you can take action immediately! I use the dropping things issue as my big clue. My other big one is when fashion magazines are getting harder and harder to read.... uh.... that's the Frog!

Hope you're feeling a little better this afternoon, Ruchie.

Love ya tons and tons. Gentle hugs to you!

*jen

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      #112077 - 10/11/04 02:04 PM
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I'm glad the nyquil helped! yippee!

ok...tell me your account and I'll fill it, ok? this is nausiating!!!

i went o the doc and i have fibro (please read my post on my hubby)...i'm a nevrous wreck!

I feel lik oging to sleep but I won't sleep tonight, any ideas? The fibro's just getting worse right now...

I took your advice and e-mailed you...hope you got it. In any case, it's the same as opne of my posts on the board...I decided I need all the help I can get!

Love ya girl!

Ruchie

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