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That is funny about your boss! 
Yeah I guess this is 'sorta' good training - kids will of course be harder I'm sure lol.
I'm getting a crate today!
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#103471 - 09/02/04 12:48 PM
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If the training class people said 12 weeks, then I'm sure they're right. Did you tell them you have a beagle?
It sounds like a lot of money right now, but believe me, in the end you won't be sorry. We had a Doberman, and we took him religiously. Thank GOD! If we hadn't, we couldn't have kept him. It takes a lot of work, because they need constant reinforcement (and with Dobbies especially, you need to teach them who's the "leader of the pack").
You don't want to get into the practice of sleeping with your dog. He has to learn where his territory is. Our Westie, for instance, has full run of the kitchen, and ONLY the kitchen. The minute he steps foot in the hallway, he gets corrected.
I'm a toughie. I don't believe in dogs in beds, and I don't like dog smell in my carpet. We had this house built with kitchen flooring compatible for dogs because we learned our lesson the hard way. That dobbie we had made a mistake once and peed on our beautiful hardwood floors. That stain was permanent; we never got it out.
Anyway, the puppy needs his own bed that he recognizes as HIS alone, a loud ticking clock and some of your dirty underwear.  Sorry, but that's the truth. You want the sound of the clock to lull him to sleep, and your smell in his bed for comfort. In time, he'll learn it's a safe haven.
I know it's easy to give in to those gorgeous eyes and floppy ears. I know, I know. But if you do give in, then he learns very quickly that HE's in charge. (Something tells me at this point, he IS -- eh?)
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Ok ok  I know I have to teach him I'm the leader. I just have so many questions because I've never had a dog.
Should I put the kennel in our room? He will cry and cry. I haven't gotten much sleep.
This is gross - but I know he loves my underwear because every time I pee he comes and bites it and jumps inside my shorts. Would he choke on it if I left it in there with him?
The other thing is - he poops and pees ALL the time, and we had to take him out 3 times in the middle of the night last night. So should I let him poop and pee in that cage??
Also - I want him to LOVE his cage - not think of it as punishment, but sometimes I just want to throw him in there cuz he's driving me nuts with the chewing on everything!!!
He'll be chewing like that for like 6 months, and today he got our neighbors arm (a little girl) and left scratches! So I want to teach him not to chew anything but his toys, but it seems IMPOSSIBLE.
Any suggestions anyone??? I don't know what to do with him tonight when we go to sleep!
Oh - and I'd LOVE to leave him in the kitchen permenantly, but there's no way to block off the kitchen - it's open on 2 sides about 14 feet wide. The only bathroom downstairs is TINY. He pooped on my new carpet today though! Poor guy has worms and we're trying to get rid of them.
Ok - I know, too many questions
Thanks everyone for all your help so far!! Seriously, I have printed all these suggestions and read them to my husband...and re-read them, and re-read them....lol. I'm just very new at this!
~Cara
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I feel for ya! Puppies are sooooo cute but they can be so much work, too.
Son & DIL have a lab puppy and they are going through exactly what you are. She's 5 months old now. She pees & poops all the time. That's normal for a pup. Their tummy's & bladders are so small. When they poop outside make a big deal about it and give a treat.
They have finally gotten her to poop outside but she still has some pee accidents inside. DIL puts some treats in her crate to entise her inside. Also, favorite toy or something that has your smell inside crate. She has gotten where she goes into crate herself at bedtime. They have the crate in the kitchen area not the bedroom. They tried that but she kept them awake all night. DIL gets up several times a night to take her out.
She is finally starting to calm down at 5 months. Went to obedience training but didn't work too well. They take her to doggy day care sometimes and when she comes home she is absolutely exhausted and falls fast asleep.
It will get better. We got ours as a puppy, too. And after about 1 yr he was great. It's just getting through that puppy stage that can be so hard.
Came home from work one day when he was a puppy and he had dug a big hole by the patio & the "mud" was on the patio in a big pile. He was full of mud and looked so proud of himself. I took him straight to the tub for a bath... and then had to fill the "hole" back up. 
Get on the internet and look up puppy training or crate training and you will find lots of good info.
BTW, son & DIL are having a baby in Nov. so they are going to try and get the puppy ready for that. 
Good Luck
Barbie
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#103532 - 09/02/04 05:36 PM
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hey.... cute puppy.. anyways, I was reading what you said about training classes and that does sound outrageous. Do you have a petsmart near you.. or a petco. Most offer free or cheap (10 dollar) obedience classes, or workshops for you and your dog. You might want to look into that.
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Hey Cara, Do you wear a perfume or hand lotion? If so get that smell on a baby blanket and put that in his be with him. I dont think you would want your panties in there with him. He could choke or get it stuck around his neck. But do try to get some smell of you on a blanket for him.
My dog loves her crate. She has some favorite toys too. She loves her blanket thats in her kennel too. I have a dachshound, mini. Doggies are lots of fun. Puppies a really hard at first. I had a minature pincher for about a week and ended up selling her to a friend. I had a puppy and a two year old. Way more than I could handel. So much work. So its good that you have him before a baby!! My dog now was given to us and she was 4 so I didn't have to deal with the puppy stage.
Good luck!
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"Should I put the kennel in our room? He will cry and cry. I haven't gotten much sleep."
So you have a cage (aka kennel) for him? Smart. He needs to learn that's his territory -- all his, his "sanctuary." He will learn to love it because that's where he'll go when you've yelled at him. Yes, he'll cry for awhile, but you'll have to use ear plugs. Ya gotta get tough; otherwise, he's gonna run your household.
"Every time I pee he comes and bites it and jumps inside my shorts. Would he choke on it if I left it in there with him?"
No; he'll curl up in it, but he won't choke.
"He poops and pees ALL the time, and we had to take him out 3 times in the middle of the night last night. So should I let him poop and pee in that cage??"
You have to catch him at the act of pooping and peeing; otherwise, you can't correct him for it, because he won't know why he's being corrected. Use lots of newspaper in the bottom to absorb it all, then toss them out. Eventually he'll learn not to go there; they don't understand at that age to keep their beds clean, but as they get older, they want clean beds, and they won't pee where they sleep.
"I want him to LOVE his cage - not think of it as punishment, but sometimes I just want to throw him in there cuz he's driving me nuts with the chewing on everything!!!"
Get used to that chewing, Girlfriend. My puppy dog ruined so many things of ours. We came home from work one day, and the house was totally trashed. He didn't stop chewing until he was 5 years old! BUT, you can control it. It may have to wait 'till puppy class, though, because they'll teach you how to give him things to chew on that he will like better than the furniture.
"Today he got our neighbors arm (a little girl) and left scratches! So I want to teach him not to chew anything but his toys, but it seems IMPOSSIBLE."
It is impossible at this young age because he's not gonna "get it" until he's more mature. I'd keep him away from little children if you can help it, or at least warn the neighbor that he's a chewer, and the neighbor may solve the problem for you by keeping their child away.
"I don't know what to do with him tonight when we go to sleep!"
When I was born, I was a crier. My parents put me in the kitchen, closed all the doors between the kitchen and their bedroom, and let me just cry myself to sleep every night. It may sound cruel, but he's got to learn his own territory, and that ain't your bed (I don't think?). Did you find a ticking clock to put on top of the kennel? If not, a radio would work, something that would keep him company. A hot water bottle buried in a soft towel might help also (resembling his mother's warm body, which is what he misses right now).
"I'd LOVE to leave him in the kitchen permenantly, but there's no way to block off the kitchen - it's open on 2 sides about 14 feet wide. The only bathroom downstairs is TINY."
He'll learn in time that his territory is wherever you allow him to be in the house. When he gets older, he will want to please you, so when he does something that you like, be sure to praise him NUMEROUS TIMES. Remember, positive reinforcement! Having him kennel-trained is a step forward, and you're on your way. That was smart to get the kennel.
"He pooped on my new carpet today though! Poor guy has worms and we're trying to get rid of them."
Did he come from the breeder with worms? I'd let the breeder know if I were you. Get some worm medicine at the puppy store or pet supply store. Try to clean up the poop as soon as it occurs, because the puppy will eat it. (Sorry.)
It's a lot of work, and constant effort, but in time he'll catch on; he just needs to be a little more mature. Despite the disgusting worms and chewing the neighbor's children, he's still a little love, and in the end you'll be glad you got him.
I adore my little Westie; he's such a charmer. Wherever we go, he causes a commotion. But when he was a puppy -- OMG, what a lot of TROUBLE he was! The first thing he did was head for our older Westie's bed and peed all over it. (She never did warm up to him.)
Good luck with Rocco.
Bev
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