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Re: omg soy?! I guess its bad,heather please look new
      #344038 - 04/04/09 11:55 AM
dragonfly

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mOST SOY PRODUCTS CAUSE ME PAIN GAS AND BLOATING.i AVOID THEM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

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Re: omg soy?! I guess its bad,heather please look new
      #344059 - 04/05/09 01:17 PM

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I wonder if soy makes me crabby and tired? and my acid reflux worse?

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Re: say no to rice and soy milk?! very interesting..but yes to almond? new
      #344073 - 04/06/09 07:13 AM
Kappy

Reged: 10/09/08
Posts: 852
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OMG!!! I want to stay away from it now!!!!! That's all I drink besides water is Soy Milk, and I use it for soy cream cheese cakes and TVP cheeses. Oh no! No more cheese, again!!!!!

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Re: say no to rice and soy milk?! very interesting..but yes to almond? new
      #344085 - 04/06/09 10:30 AM
osbo54

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Thanks alot for this article. I did not realize this about soy. I don't consume much soy, except for some tofu at times, but I didn't realize the soy protein isolate which is used as textured vegetable protein in products, was so dangerous. I will no longer consume any products with this in it.

I also use rice milk, and I knew the ingredients, but again I wasn't aware of the dangers. I will try to make my own almond milk as listed on the website.

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Re: say no to rice and soy milk?! very interesting..but yes to almond? new
      #344093 - 04/06/09 01:37 PM
mrae

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Well I usually use Silk soy milk in my shakes but not any more. I have never tried almond milk is it good? Where do they sell it?

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Re: say no to rice and soy milk?! very interesting..but yes to almond? new
      #344096 - 04/06/09 01:43 PM
Kappy

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Almond milk is good, and easy to make.

You need to soak the almonds over-night. Then put in food processor and blend almonds and milk. Then strain ingredients into another container with a cheese cloth and make sure to squeeze all the juice out of cheese cloth. You have almond milk! I don't know how to sweeten it though, I just know how to make it. I'm pretty sure if you boil it and add sugar and some vanilla, it would work well, might just want to play with it if you want to try it!

You can also use the leftovers from the cheesecloth to make more!

Or

You can find it at HFS or in the Natural/Organic section of the grocery (sometimes)

Hope that helps.

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Re: say no to rice and soy milk?! very interesting..but yes to almond? new
      #344102 - 04/06/09 02:36 PM
osbo54

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If you read back up in this thread there is a post by "aperson" that lists a link to a website that tells you how to make almond milk, and also how to sweeten it.

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Re: omg soy?! I guess its bad,heather please look new
      #344124 - 04/06/09 10:27 PM
Sand

Reged: 12/13/04
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Oh, for Heaven's sake. Here's the most important statement in this whole alarmist piece (emphasis mine):

Quote:

I believe you are getting the picture, but let me make sure you get the whole picture . . . strangely enough Americans are the main consumers of unfermentated raw soy products second to the Japanese.




So the Japanese eat more unfermented soy products than people in the United States while those clever, clever Chinese assiduously avoid all those nasty toxins found in unfermented soy. Really? Let's take a look at national life expectancy to see how this is working out for them.

The life expectancy for the Japanese - who gorge themselves on this nasty soy stuff - is 82.6 years. That's the first - yes, first - longest life expectancy in the United Nations rankings.

The life expectancy for the Chinese - who avoid unfermented soy like the plague - is 73 years. That's 82nd in the UN rankings.

The US? 78.2 years, 38th in the UN rankings.

Soy is neither a hideous blight on your refrigerator nor a miracle cure for everything that ails you. It's just a food. Most IBSers tolerate it well but, yes, for some it causes problems. That's usually because soy is a bean and beans produce gas and since IBSers suffer from visceral hypersensitivity, gas can make everything worse. Those IBSers can try something like Beano when eating soy and if that doesn't work they should - obviously - avoid soy.

For the rest of us, the usual common sense rules apply:
Food is not medicine nor is it poison.
All things in moderation.

We IBSers already have quite enough diet limitations, thank you very much. There's no reason to stir up concern over a food most of us find both useful and tolerable.

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Re: omg soy?! I guess its bad,heather please look new
      #344127 - 04/07/09 05:27 AM
osbo54

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Fermented is fine, but I would steer clear of soy protein isolate used as textured vegetable protein in processed foods, if you eat any. IMO

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Thank you, Sand! I was getting worried I had to change my diet, again! - nt - new
      #344135 - 04/07/09 06:24 AM
Kappy

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