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Medical marijuana
      #304075 - 04/05/07 09:26 AM
misspayj

Reged: 04/05/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Denver, CO

I think this is a great topic to discuss. I have not seen a post about this yet. I was wondering if anyone has experienced that when they use marijuana that they can eat some of the foods that they normally could not. I was also wondering if it is possible to get medical marijuana for IBS. I know there is stigma around this topic because in most places it is illegal but if it works and is technically safe, does anyone else feel that serious IBS sufferers could benefit from the medical use of marijuana? I feel that it is a positive herb and the option should be discussed and if I can not discuss it here, then where? I need help with this topic and I do not personally know any other IBS sufferers that would like to discuss topics as these with me. Please respond. Thanks, this is my first post by the way and I need support.

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Re: Medical marijuana new
      #305168 - 04/16/07 11:09 PM
Phi

Reged: 04/16/07
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Loc: Florida

This is my first post as well, I just joined; I truly hope I don't offend anyone either. This is a subject i have experiences with, so I thought it would be a good place to jump in. In some states medical marijuana is legal. If you are lucky enough to live in a state that allows medical marijuana, a physician can help you out. I would talk to a Dr before doing anything anyway, just to be on the safe side. I'm certainly not a Dr and can only speak from my own experience and research.
I personally have found it to be extremely helpful in managing my IBS, on several levels. It helps with the nausea. It helps with the cramps and pain. It helps with diarrhea. It helps with improving appetite. It of course helps to elevate mood, for those of us who suffer from depression. It reduces acid in the stomach.
I'm not currently seeing a gastroenterologist, but when I was, he was well aware that I was using marijuana to help with the symptoms, and said it could only help.
There are also negatives, of course. You risk getting in trouble with the law (if it isn't legal where you live, as it's not here). You risk failing drug tests for employement, and you will test positive if you go to the hospital. As you've said, the stigma is great. While I agree with you that it's a positive herb, it is still a drug, and while not actually addictive, it's very easy to get reliant on it. It can also increase anxiety in some people. Any smoking is an irritant to your stomach, and even though you feel relief from the symptoms, you risk irritating your stomach with the smoke itself. If you live where it's legal, you can avoid this by eating it instead.
I also have found that while it's very helpful with my IBS-D, when I have primarily IBS-C symptoms, I have to be careful because I have found it can be constipating if I'm already in that situation. Of course, if it's illegal, it's not regulated, so you would want to insure you get it somewhere you trust, or you could cause yourself more problems.
Overall, I personally belive the positives far outweigh the negatives, but it's definitely a personal decision that you should really think about.
I do want to point out that marijuana primarily relieves symptoms, where diet can actually PREVENT them. I've only just discovered this site and way of eating, and I've been amazed at how much it's helped so far. WHile I think MM is very helpful, I'd rather prevent the symptoms altogether when I can by controlling my diet. I had never realized that was an option before!

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Re: Medical marijuana new
      #305222 - 04/17/07 02:30 PM
Double J

Reged: 03/09/06
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Loc: High Rocky Mountains ibs-d

Besides being illegal, and not wanting to spend time dealing with the legal system ... that's all I would need is to get high .. get the munchies ... pig out, and live in the bathroom for 24 hours.



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Courage doesn’t always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, “I will try again tomorrow”. Mary Anne Radmacher

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Re: Medical marijuana new
      #305227 - 04/17/07 03:06 PM
misspayj

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Loc: Denver, CO

Thank you for all your advice. I am well aware of the benefits of this site as I have been using it for about 2 years and have seen great results. In this post I am not asking about the negatives of medical marijuana but the positive as that is what I am benefiting from. I appreciated your imput very much.

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Re: Medical marijuana new
      #305228 - 04/17/07 03:08 PM
misspayj

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Loc: Denver, CO

The point of this topic was "medical" marijuana, which would make it not illegal. Plus, the fact is that it obviously effects everyone differently. I benefit from it so please do not doubt that it is a great choice for all the great reasons it does provide.

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Medical marijuana for IBS - nope new
      #305231 - 04/17/07 03:56 PM
Double J

Reged: 03/09/06
Posts: 900
Loc: High Rocky Mountains ibs-d

You have touched a subject that is close to my heart … and I am sorry if I sound harsh. I am not trying to attack you or anything like that. I think that over the years I have really turned into a nice person. At least I try and hope…

This is a good site to discuss many things, but if you wish to smoke marijuana it is not for your health … it's for pleasure.

Let me introduce myself …

Hi … I'm DoubleJ … I'm a recovering addict. That sound familiar to some folks???

I spend hours a week with an NA group trying to stay off of and get all ages of people off of drugs. I have been drug free since 24 May, 1979, and hiding in Wyoming. I was one of the lucky ones. I survived my dope days without destroying too many brain cells. My teeth ache and my body hurts. My knowledge of marijuana and other drugs is first hand. I used to smoke grass to take the edge of the speed which was so easy to obtain in SE Asia. I always thought that we stayed alive because we never slept. And it is just not worth the cost.

I have never heard of marijuana being legal for IBS so how can it be medicinal? Let me tell you what I do know. Although marijuana itself is not addictive (which is still debatable) it still gets you nearer to an environment where there are other drugs that are. And eventually most people will try something else.

There are better ways to control your ibs symptoms then lighting up a joint, or firing up your bong, or baking brownies.

Do you know what people will do for drugs? Young men become brutal … young women will do anything …

So … you certainly can have your own opinion and ideas … me too. Drugs kill. Worse they degrade everyone they touch.

I'm sorry. Marijuana is not the answer for IBS.


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Re: Medical marijuana new
      #305242 - 04/17/07 05:24 PM
gaptron2

Reged: 10/30/06
Posts: 2
Loc: Pennsylvania

I have been using marijuana for recreation for about 35 years and have had IBS-D for about 5 years. I find that it relieves my painful colon quite well. However, the munchies cause me to eat much of the forbidden foods

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Re: Medical marijuana for IBS - nope new
      #305289 - 04/18/07 08:28 AM
Phi

Reged: 04/16/07
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Loc: Florida

There is loads and loads of information out there on the positive benefits of marijuana. It IS legal for medicinal use in several states. I hardly think using a medicinal herb that grows in the ground is anything compared to speed.
You don't question other herbs taken for IBS, this one is somehow different because the government hasn't found a way to tax it? I definitely sympathesize that you got addicted to speed, but it certainly isn't the same in my opinion. If you were posting that you used marijuana to help your IBS and you instead got sick or addicted, I would understand. I've of course never heard of that happening. Ever. I just can't see how you can compare the two. Have you looked at the side effects to the medicines available today? The drugs pulled off the market after people use them for years? The people hooked on PRESCRIBED pain pills? I just can't see how it compares at all. Am I allowed to post website links here? I'd be happly to put up links that has FACTUAL medical marijuana information..

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Re: Medical marijuana for IBS - nope new
      #305291 - 04/18/07 08:40 AM
misspayj

Reged: 04/05/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Denver, CO

Thank you for the educated support. I agree 100% with what you are saying and it is good to know that someone else sees my point of view. I am on this site for support, not to be attacked or informed by someone who doesn't have much evidence to support there claim. Thank you.

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Re: Medical marijuana for IBS - nope new
      #305292 - 04/18/07 08:59 AM
misspayj

Reged: 04/05/07
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Loc: Denver, CO

First of all, yes you have come across very harsh. Second, the use of MEDICAL marijuana is not just for plesure, otherwise there would be not reason that the government would allow it to be legal for patients who are suffering from a chronic disease or condition. I do not like to be told opinons that are interpreted as facts. Like I said before, your experience is obviously different than a vast majority of sufferers and that does not discredit neither you or I. I feel that you can not relate marijuana to speed when one is an upper and the other relaxes you. The point of my blog was not about how marijuana could possibly be a gateway drug because that is a decision that you would make and not the actual drug itself. Please realize that if something has helped many people and it is not as harmful as lets say alcohol than do not put it down. I could smoke everyday for years and be a productive member of society and then if I truly had to I could quit but why would I if I don't experience any bad side effects? I don't even have to smoke it, I can ingest it or vaporize it. I have control over my IBS symptoms with all the methods I could but I am not perfect and there is no way my symptoms can be 100% gone for my whole life considering there are stressors that I can not control or things that you do not experiece because I am a woman and no matter what I do I will be in pain from my periods. I do not want to be taking precriptions for my pain considering the side effects are way worse than those of marijuana. People like you are keeping marijuana illegal in this country when things like guns and alcohol are legal which makes no sense at all. All I want is to be pain free in the times when all my other resources do not help and to be peaceful, when have you heard of an instance when weed made a hippy kill someone? Never. Remember weed doesn't cause anyone do to anything that they wouldn't do if they really didn't want to and if you feel the side effects are bad than obviously you do not have enough pain that gets relieved from THC that would make those side effects worth it. We are all going to die one day, I won't to live a better life and die from something that I felt that was worth fighting for.

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