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One thing, Jaime, that I've learned that has really made a huge difference is to NOT eat in the company of the T.V. It puts me straight to sleep or in that zombie/unconscious eating mode. It makes me vulnerable.
When I started doing this, the distinction between hunger/appetite & random mindless munchies became increasing clear. I can't hear myself think clearly with the t.v. on and make appropriate distinctions. I note that I overeat with the t.v. on, generally. So, I just don't eat with the t.v. on. Sometimes (and you can laugh), I'll sit in front of the t.v. with it turned off and eat, seeing my own reflection staring at me. Does that sound creepy? I guess, eating in front of the mirror, has the same effect. It makes you feel like you're reliving "The Truman Show" or "Being John Malkovich." For the longest time I dissociated while eating...it's really hard to stay grounded/present with the food, the process, to eat consciously and attentively. One of the greatest challenges of my life is to be grounded and "in body." Until about 4 or 5 months ago, I never even bothered to eat at the kitchen table or on my own dishes. I used to just co-ordinate my eating with the t.v.
Kate.
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After so many bites, a food loses it's taste appeal and it's just mindless eating, boring and uh...blanking out. It's kind of how the first cookie tastes compared to the second, or the first 3 bites of something. Really, if I pay attention, and I do...I get bored/tired of eating it. However, with distractions, and T.V. is the WORST OFFENDER (especially combined with mega monster money stress you want to download/transfer), you are prey to the random eating thing.
Lol! I feel like sending you a bag of Werthers or Jolly Ranchers or JellyBelly's, Jaime. When I feel vulnerable to the zombie eating thing, I get really infantile with the food and hit the licorice, scotch mints, altoids, and truly walk around with a big sucker or (not any more, dried fruit!) HOT TAMALES (those really rock!) and SWEET TARTS and most suckers. (Not candy corn--it's vile) The salivatory gratification makes it last longer. Actually most binge foods are really excessively seasoned or rich and make you salivate. At worst/best later you feel like you ate nail polish when you hit the candy stuff. I love the candy that they give you at Indian/Curry restaurants for dessert! I'd skip dinner for those candies. The inner child energy really helps with the stress, and I know that there's a connection...the land/language of forgetting, until the next morning and then the payback arrives. Mega-food hangover.
And then we start all over again.
This food stuff is really bizarre. Oh man, now I want some popsicles. Lol! I wonder if they still make those "Popeye
Cigarettes?" Have you read any Geneen Roth? She really hits home, for me, personally. I've learned, over the years, that I have a really ravenous heart.
Kate.
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Re: TV
#230006 - 12/07/05 08:38 PM
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jaime g
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yeah, i do spend too much time spacing out in front of the tv. of course, i don't have a dining room or even kitchen table in my apt - it's the couch or... well, my bedroom, and fear of bugs means no food in there. unless i'm at a restaurant i almost never eat without something - tv, radio, a book. i'm better at work or with other people, but at home alone... well, you know the story. lately i've been good about devoting a good part of my awareness to what i'm eating. yesterday, though, not so much. like auto-pilot, a total split-consciousness - the part of me wanting cookies and getting them, and then the other part of me, being silenced, knowing that this isn't the choice i want to make.
but i haven't heard of that author you mention at all. any title in particular i should look for?
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jaime
ibs-a (mostly d) // vegetarian
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#230012 - 12/07/05 09:05 PM
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Wind
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I used to eat in the bedroom in front of the t.v. Actually, I'll still eat there, but I turn the externals off. It's really hard, but it makes a huge difference. There are no distractions from the task at hand. It's really weird at first. I understand. The t.v. used to be permanently "on" here. And now...I can't remember when I last watched it. But I always ate with it.
Kate.
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...but I love Geneen Roth!
I highly recommend any of her books, but good ones to start with are "Overcoming Compulsive Eating" and "Feeding the Hungry Heart."
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Julia
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