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Whey Isolates?
      #204800 - 08/11/05 09:32 PM
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I'm looking for help from those with a fitness back ground. I'm currently taking Soytein Energy Drink (w/Vanilla Silk Soy Milk) 3 times a day... my Personal Trainer asked me tonight to ask you guys on the boards what your thoughts are for someone to take Whey Isolates instead. How might it effect my IBS? I'm IBS-A (more on the C side).

My questions is...if it is safe for IBS which I'm thinking it is not since whey is a derivative of dairy, right? What benefit would the Whey Isolates have verses the Soytein?

I can then show my PT your replies...it will help her to understand why some things are ok and some are not for ME


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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #204830 - 08/12/05 06:15 AM
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Whey isolates are the highest protein you can get for the least amount, but I would definitely be wary because of your IBS. My fibro doc put me on an anti-fatigue powder that had whey protein in it, and it wasn't pretty the two days I took it (I'm an A as well, but lean more towards D). So I would advise against it, especially if you're sensitive to dairy.

Here's a bodybuilding website that talks about whey protein: web page

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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205323 - 08/13/05 09:26 PM
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bump...hoping Laurel will comment

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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205327 - 08/13/05 09:35 PM
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Hehe ok if you insist!

Yeah, I would definitely stay AWAY personally. To me, a protein shake made with whey seems no different than drinking a glass of milk and it would definitely equal an attack for me

I have read stuff about whey being the most easily absorbed though too, but I mean, my body's not going to be absorbing it too well if it just sets off my IBS... I'm IBS-D (sometimes A but definitely more towards D), but even so, my "gut" instinct (no pun intended ) would say definitely no... It IS a derivative, but it's PURE derivative, and lots of it. So it wouldn't really be the same as, say, some whey powder at the bottom of a list of ingredients. I don't know, that's just my thought. It IS possible that you could tolerate it, but I mean, you'd probably be having a lot of it - 3x a day everday, right? I think it would be kind of dangerous ground...

Have you ever considered egg (white) protein? I've read a few places that that's a pretty easily absorbed one too... I think that's what Elizabeth is or was taking and from what I remember she liked it.

In the long run, I don't worry about the different absorption rates between soy and whey too much and I still take a soy powder and am quite happy with it. Most soy powders have more carbs than most whey powders, which are often 100% protein, but I did find one (Weider brand) that was 90% protein a while back with only a few g of carbs in it. It did have artificial sweeteners and a bit of dairy dervitives in it though, but I seemed to do ok with it while I was taking it. So there definitely ARE lower carb/higher protein soy powders out there if that's what you're looking for

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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205331 - 08/13/05 10:19 PM
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Here is a post from Elizabeth that I found http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinEggWhiteAll.asp


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I'm not sure if you know, but GNC's soy protein powder has sucralose (Splenda) in it. I couldn't figure out what was making me have attacks and then I read the small print on the tub. Yep, can't handle that crap.

Right now I'm using Jay Robb's Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder and it's fantastic!




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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205332 - 08/13/05 10:40 PM
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Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder
Serving Size: 28.3g (1 scoop)
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 100
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Total Fat: 0 g
Saturated Fat: 0 g
Cholesterol: 0 mg
Sodium: 260mg (naturally occurring)
Total Carbohydrates: >1 g
Dietary Fiber: 0 g
Sugars: 0 g
Protein: 24 g

Soytein Chocolate Protein Powder
Serving Size: 33g (1 scoop)
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 110
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Total Fat: 1 g
Saturated Fat: 0 g
Cholesterol: 0 mg
Sodium: 130mg
Total Carbohydrates: 12 g
Dietary Fiber: 0 g
Sugars: 9 g
Protein: 14 g

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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205476 - 08/14/05 07:30 PM
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Wow that's really intersting, thanks for posting that Shell For the record, I am now seriously considering switching to an egg white powder once this tub of soy is all gone!

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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #205665 - 08/15/05 03:58 PM
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I just requested a sample so I can see if it will work well in a shaker vs blender. http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinEggWhiteAll.asp



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Edited by Shell Marr (08/17/05 01:31 PM)

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Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder new
      #209757 - 08/30/05 09:59 AM
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I just requested a sample so I can see if it will work well in a shaker vs blender. http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinEggWhiteAll.asp






The Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder works great just in the shaker and tastes good too!! I recommend using it with soy or rice milk vs water.... I will be ordering this (or finding it local in the HFS....as soon as I start to run low on the other. Or, I might even just order it and use both...

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Re: Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder new
      #224431 - 11/11/05 05:44 PM
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Just got my 2lb container of The Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder in the mail.... I will start using it Sat morning before I workout with PT Heather!!

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Quote:

I just requested a sample so I can see if it will work well in a shaker vs blender. http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinEggWhiteAll.asp






The Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder works great just in the shaker and tastes good too!! I recommend using it with soy or rice milk vs water.... I will be ordering this (or finding it local in the HFS....as soon as I start to run low on the other. Or, I might even just order it and use both...




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Re: Whey Isolates? new
      #233921 - 12/27/05 10:23 AM
Jackey

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Melissa & Company, thanks for the web site. I am newly diagnosed with IBS and am trying to gain my weight back. I do practice yoga and work out with weights, but still self-conscious about the weight I've lost since March 2005. I've been looking into whey. I've found a supplement called Spiruleen (think I spelled that right). It's a soy based shake with whey. Do you have any experience with that?

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bump for jaime re: spirutein new
      #233962 - 12/27/05 02:23 PM
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I think jaime was using it for a while; if I remember it correctly, she liked it! but hopefully she'll chime in here

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FYI Soytein & Spirutein are the same thing just different brands new
      #233986 - 12/27/05 03:31 PM
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FYI Soytein & Spirutein are the same thing just different brands

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I'm looking for help from those with a fitness back ground. I'm currently taking Soytein Energy Drink (w/Vanilla Silk Soy Milk) 3 times a day... my Personal Trainer asked me tonight to ask you guys on the boards what your thoughts are for someone to take Whey Isolates instead. How might it effect my IBS? I'm IBS-A (more on the C side).

My questions is...if it is safe for IBS which I'm thinking it is not since whey is a derivative of dairy, right? What benefit would the Whey Isolates have verses the Soytein?

I can then show my PT your replies...it will help her to understand why some things are ok and some are not for ME





THIS STUFF ROCKS!!

Quote:

Just got my 2lb container of The Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder in the mail.... I will start using it Sat morning before I workout with PT Heather!!

Quote:

Quote:

I just requested a sample so I can see if it will work well in a shaker vs blender. http://www.jayrobb.com/cat_proteinEggWhiteAll.asp






The Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder works great just in the shaker and tastes good too!! I recommend using it with soy or rice milk vs water.... I will be ordering this (or finding it local in the HFS....as soon as I start to run low on the other. Or, I might even just order it and use both...







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Re: bump for jaime re: spirutein new
      #235671 - 01/04/06 01:44 PM
Jackey

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Hey! Thanks for that. Haven't heard anything but will keep looking. I bought a one-serving packet but am still working up the courage to try it (you know...when you know there isn't much to do the next day in case it hits wrong!)

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Re: Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder new
      #265458 - 05/25/06 05:40 AM
AmandaPanda, J.D.

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Hey Shell,

Sorry to resurrect such an old post, but I just tried the vanilla variety of this protein powder and I have to say it's the best-tasting one I've had yet. I've tried gensoy and a couple others, and they all taste a little mealy. Anyway I usually make a totally unsafe-for-ibs shake with the protein powder, ice, water, cocoa powder, instant coffee, and spelnda (I know, I know but I'm so stable now ...). Anyway I am a real chocoholic and I was wondering, obviously, if I could just buy the chocolate flavor and skip my extra ingredients (except for the coffee, hehe). Is it any good? If it tastes icky I'm going to be so mad that I wasted 15 bucks when the vanilla already does the trick. Does it really really taste like a chocolate shake?

Thanks,

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Re: Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder new
      #265531 - 05/25/06 10:12 AM
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I really like the choc... it is runny...but no different then the vanilla... send an email to info@jayrobb.com and ask for a sample... they will send it in just a few days...they are GREAT about that. Tell them you want the egg white choc protein (not whey).

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Hey Shell,

Sorry to resurrect such an old post, but I just tried the vanilla variety of this protein powder and I have to say it's the best-tasting one I've had yet. I've tried gensoy and a couple others, and they all taste a little mealy. Anyway I usually make a totally unsafe-for-ibs shake with the protein powder, ice, water, cocoa powder, instant coffee, and spelnda (I know, I know but I'm so stable now ...). Anyway I am a real chocoholic and I was wondering, obviously, if I could just buy the chocolate flavor and skip my extra ingredients (except for the coffee, hehe). Is it any good? If it tastes icky I'm going to be so mad that I wasted 15 bucks when the vanilla already does the trick. Does it really really taste like a chocolate shake?

Thanks,

Amanda




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Re: Chocolate Egg White Protein Powder new
      #266298 - 05/30/06 06:15 AM
AmandaPanda, J.D.

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Thanks, Shell. I'll request a sample. I just don't want to pay for a whole big tub of it if it's going to be yucky -- and I have a HUGE problem with throwing away food, so I know it would just sit in my cabinet forever. Thanks!

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