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      #61535 - 04/15/04 01:21 PM
Vicam

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Posts: 1955
Loc: Ontario, Canada

I'm looking for some input/suggestions from other people wiht IBS-A. I've been having a lot of problems swinging drastically from C to D. I've been following the diet and I must say I have seen improvements (my D attacks don't seem to hurt as much which is a plus) but I'm still having some major issues.
Basically, I'll get C which is ok for the first few days (not much pain etc) but then as it drags on it starts to get really uncomfortable, and then all of a sudden I'll get an attack of D. Now, I figure I probably need to go since I usually haven't gone it at least a week or so at this point, but the problem is, if I have to be at work I can't have D. I work at a call centre where the calls come in constantly, and let's just say I would not be allowed to hang up on someone who was yakking up a storm because I had to go to the bathroom.
So, I'll usually take some Immodium if I have to go to work and the D is really bad, and then I find that even one dose swings me right back over to C, and the whole cycle starts again (only worse because I wasn't really "Empty").
Does anyone have any advice for this?

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Re: Question for IBS-Aers new
      #61565 - 04/15/04 02:29 PM
Lilybear

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Loc: east coast, usa

hello vicam,

i hope that you do get answeres to your questions bcos i am dealing with same issues using immodium. the diet is helpful, i wish doctors knew more about soluble fiber and teas. best of wishes!!

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Re: Question for IBS-Aers new
      #61570 - 04/15/04 02:33 PM
Kree

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Kelly, I'm a Cer right now but I was A for quite a while. I found that increasing the amount of insoluble fiber I ate really helped lessen the length of time I got C. And because of that, I stopped getting as many of the D attacks that resulted from being C for too long! I know you're struggling with adding insolubles to your diet, but some veggies really can make a difference! Keep on trying things out. You may have to find out the hard way what works best for you, but believe me, it pays off in the end!

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      #61638 - 04/15/04 04:43 PM
Vicam

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Posts: 1955
Loc: Ontario, Canada

Hey Kree,
Thanks for the advice. I know I should be eating more vegetables but I just keep doing it wrong. I really am useless in the kitchen, but I'm trying really hard to learn.
Could you make some suggestions of the best ones to start with? And maybe some recipes that I could try? I read a post where Bev mentioned throwing some veggies in some soup stock, but I don't even know what that is
Any advice would be great.
Kelly

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Re: Question for IBS-Aers new
      #61657 - 04/15/04 05:43 PM
Daisymc

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Vicam,
I am having similar problems myself. I read one of Bev's postings earlier this morning about drinking V8 juice after you had filled up on soluble fiber of course & it helped me out (I tried a tropical blend). It didn't clean me up out 100%, but it did help. At this point I'll take whatever I can get:). I was only able to drink about 1/2 of a 16oz bottle (it was a tad tart for me). I hope this helps.
Daisy

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      #61669 - 04/15/04 07:03 PM
Kree

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Kelly, let me see what I can think of for you.

Have you cooked with TVP yet? If you're willing to give it a try Heather's All-American Sloppy Joes are fantastic, and they have some celery and onion that you chop up and simmer so hopefully that would be very safe for you.

I also have some very safe (and many very easy!) veggie recipes posted on my web page here. If you scroll down you'll come to the vegetable section. The only one I'd avoid at first is the Autumn Melange because that's an all-veggie main dish and might be too much to start with.

Peronsally, I eat an awful lot of potatoes, carrots, and squash because they're the easiest for me to digest. The potatoes I usually eat either baked or mashed with soy milk and a tiny bit of soy margarine. The carrots I either just cook in the microwave and mix with maple syrup or I use the recipes on my site. I also do fine with cooked celery and onions in recipes. You might want to look at your grocery store to see if they carry frozen cooked squash. I often make that by just nuking it in the microwave and then stirring in some brown sugar... if you like squash, that is. I love it, and it's really safe for me!

I hope that's enough to get you started! Let me know how it goes!

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Re: Question for IBS-Aers new
      #61714 - 04/16/04 01:27 AM
Linz

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Keep it up! The diet and the soluble fibre should stabilise you, but it can take a while! Kree advice on insolubles is good, but be careful! You don't want to just swing back the other way. Start with the "good" veges- carrots, squash, etc. Then cooked zucchini is pretty gentle and provides insoluble.

Totally get what you mean about Immodium and work - I took it for ages to survive. Maybe ask your doctor if you can get a lower dose? You can get it as a liquid to take tiny amounts.

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Thank you Kree! new
      #61951 - 04/16/04 02:14 PM
Vicam

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Loc: Ontario, Canada

Thanks Kree!
I appreciate your help! I really like squash but I've never tried to cook it, but hopefully I can find some of that frozen stuff, it sounds yummy

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Soup Stock new
      #61978 - 04/16/04 03:24 PM
LauraSue

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Quote:

I read a post where Bev mentioned throwing some veggies in some soup stock, but I don't even know what that is




Kelly, don't feel bad, I'm a non-cook too! Soup stock technically means something like chicken broth or vegetable broth that becomes the basis of a homemade soup. The best equivalent for non-cooks like us is a can of lowfat chicken broth from the grocery store, same aisle as the soups.
Even easier is buying a can of chicken noodle soup and some frozen mixed veggies. Cook the veggies until they're almost mushy, heat up the soup and mix them together! How easy is that!!

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Thanks Laura...that doesn't sound too hard -nt- new
      #61979 - 04/16/04 03:26 PM
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Glad I could help!! -nt- new
      #61981 - 04/16/04 03:30 PM
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Re: Soup Stock new
      #62002 - 04/16/04 04:17 PM
KellyAndersson

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Posts: 272
Loc: N.California


RE: Attacks of D at work, you said, "I would not be allowed to hang up on someone who was yakking up a storm because I had to go to the bathroom."

I was tempted to try being funny by asking if they could get you a cordless phone, but I won't do that.

RE: Soup stock.
Let's pretend you can eat meat and you enjoy it.
Get a really big pot (like a stock pot, which is why we call them that) and put some meat in it. The two bestest things are a carcass of roast chicken or turkey (that's the bones and stuff left over on the platter after dinner) or a bunch of bones and meat scraps of beef or pork (like prime rib or pork roast). You can also ask your butcher for soup bones AND YOU MIGHT GET THEM FOR FREE.

Put that in the big pot and add water till it's about 3/4 full. Start this cooking on high, then turn it down -- you want to simmer it slowwwwwwly for at least a couple hours, preferably all day.

Now add the "stock" vegetables. You don't have to peel these or chop them up -- they add flavor and nutrition to the stock and you're going to take them out later. Use any or all of these in your stock:

1-2 onions; 1-2 stalks celery; 1-2 carrots; small zucchini or chunk of squash


Now season your stock. Use any or all of these:
1 tsp worcestershire; 1 tbsp molasses; 1 cup wine; 1 tsp sage; 2 tsp dry mustard; 1 handful chopped fresh spinach; 1 small can V-8 juice; 1-2 cloves garlic; 1 can chopped tomatoes; salt and pepper


Let this simmer for at least a couple hours. Or use a crockpot. At the end of the day (or when you get around to it) put it in the fridge. In the morning all the fat will be solid and floating on the top and you can take it off so you don't have "greasy" soup.

Fish the stock veggies out and throw them away. Fish the meat and bones out, put them in a bowl or colander, and decide whether you want to pick through it and put the good pieces of meat back into your stock. Then re-heat the stock on the stove. Taste it and adjust for spices (add more water if it's really stout and add more seasoning if it's not).

Now pick out any of the veggies you like, peel them and/or cut them up, and add them to the stock. You can add more meat if you want, or frozen vegetables, or cooked rice or pasta (noodles, macaroni, etc.) or leftover vegetables. (Back when I had kids to cook for, I'd keep a covered container in the freezer compartment and keep adding little leftover meat and vegetable scraps to it. It would become soup.)

Though this might LOOK like an intimidating recipe for non-cooks, TRUST ME, IT'S NOT. You can do this really fast and easy in your kitchen, it's really hard to mess it up, it tastes way better than canned soup, it's extremely inexpensive, and the nutritional content is probably 3 times that of store-bought soup.

And for those who don't want to eat meat, just do the same thing with more veggies and no meat!

Good luck!


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Chicken Noodle Soup! new
      #62005 - 04/16/04 04:20 PM
Bevvy

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I checked the ingredients on Campbell's Chicken Noodle Soup, and it contains chicken FAT! EW, GROSS.

Here's my recipe: Chicken Stock

It's very easy to make, believe me, and you just keep it in the freezer in small individual serving-size containers, then when you want soup, you Mike one of the containers and toss in your favorite veggies -- you have home made vegetable soup within an hour's time that you could serve to any guests, and they'd absolutely love it. AND, it's totally fat-free, very healthy, and IBS-safe (don't forget to have the soluble fiber first though).

Bev

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Re: SUPER EASY baked squash new
      #62014 - 04/16/04 04:57 PM
KellyAndersson

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Posts: 272
Loc: N.California


Or "squish," which is how I say it.

Acorn squash
Acorn squash photo from wikipedia.org

Take an acorn squash and cut it in half vertically from its stem down. Use a big tablespoon and scoop out all the seeds and stringy stuff from the middle. (Yes, you can plant this outside if you want. Free food.) In the scooped opening where the seeds used to be, put some butter or applesauce or cinnamon or ginger or honey or pork sausage or TVP or sliced apples -- or be decadent and use 'em all. Put the squish in the oven and bake it like a potato -- 30 to 45 minutes at 350 or so. Smush it up some with a fork in a bowl or on your plate and eat it up.

p.s. A pumpkin pie made with this beats the dickens out of a pumpkin pie made with store-bought canned pumpkin.




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Re: Soup Stock new
      #69742 - 05/12/04 07:49 AM
supersilks

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Posts: 48
Loc: Phoenix, Az

ok....well, i'm a jewish mama so i'll share my soup stocks with you.

Chicken soup seems to be one of the few things i can eat right now.

Chicken soup stock:
Take 1-2 large chicken breasts or a whole large chicken if you're feeding tons and boil it in water. Add 2-3 chicken bouillion cubes if you like - or if you're like me just add some dill, salt and pepper to your boiling chicken. Turn the heat down and let it simmer . add more water when you need to. When the chicken is done it will start falling off the bone. can take 2-3 hours. Or...turn on your crockpot and throw in the chicken and fill the crockpot with water. Let it cook overnight on low!

I add carrots, potatos, rice usually - sometimes noodles or matza balls. (i used to add celery and onions but am holding off on those)

Veggie stock:
every time you cut carrots, onions, celery, squash or any vegetable..take the 'ends and peices' and throw them in a ziplock in the freezer. When you're ready to make stock just toss all those pieces into your crockpot, fill with water and cook on low overnight. Strain the pieces out and whats left is your veggie soup stock/broth.





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