Priobitics
#43646 - 02/07/04 03:51 PM
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ArtKen
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I am going to take some priobitics for a mild does of constipation related probably more to diverticulous.
I have the powder that you keep in fridge but does anyone know how much is okay to take and how often. I'm going to try a quarter teaspoon in a glass of water for now.
Wonderful site. In one post I'm giving advice and then submitting a post with my own question.
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I don't know the answer for you, but maybe someone else does.
Yes it is a great site, isn't it?
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Re: Priobitics
#43752 - 02/08/04 12:32 PM
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ArtKen
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Thanks. I did look up Heather's articles on the subject in her Reasearch library.
I guess all I can do is trail and error. Also did search through Google but again lots of articles on subject but little on dosage that I could find.
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Probiotics
#43762 - 02/08/04 02:07 PM
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Bevvy
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ArtKen, I don't know if this is going to help you much, but I'll give it a try. How much of the bacteria is in a quarter teaspoon? I take Jarro, which is in capsule form, and I started out at one capsule per day. One capsule contains 4.4 billion organisms. I am now up to two capsules per day, or 8.8 billion.
I would say it makes sense to start out by taking enough of the powder to equal 4.4 billion, and move up to 8.8 billion.
Did that help?
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Re: Probiotics
#43773 - 02/08/04 03:38 PM
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ArtKen
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Okay, thanks. Will keep to low dosage for now and see how it goes.
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Hi!
It's so good to have another Canadian around! Welcome to the board!
Is the powder you are talking about called Lactibiane? If so, you need to take one pouch everynight before going to bed. You put it into a small glass of water and let it sit there a minute or two. Then mix it and drink it.
Lactibiane are probiotics. Lately, another product was recommanded to me. It's got both probiotics (the bacterias) and prebiotics (their food). The product is called Megatil and I don't think it is sold in the US but since you're in Canada you can probably buy it. I used to take Lactibiane and I switched to Megatil a few weeks ago and I think it works better for me.
Good luck with that!
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Thanks for note.
What I have is the HMF Powder, Lactobacillus & bifidus power. Wish it was in a pouch. One quarter teaspoon contains 3 billion CFU's of each. Don't ask me please what is a CFU other than they are colony forming units.
As I say giving it a shot for now to see how it works.
Yes it is nice to see other Canadians here.
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hi; I take Acidophilus with Bifidus,capsules. On the bottle is says each Capsule contains: *6 billion active cells of the following cultured strains: Lactobacillus rhamnosus- 50% / 3.0 billion
Lactobacillus paracasei - 30% / 1.8 billion
Lactobacillus acidophilus - 10% / 0.6 billion
Bifidobacterium longum - 10% / 0.6 billion
*At time of munufacture guaranteed minimum 6 billion active cells per capsule. These micro-organisms are in a base of FOS(fructooligosaccharides:naturally occurring complex fructose molecules derived from chicory root), maltodextrin, di-calcium phosphate, pectin,magnesuim stearate (as lubricant)and ascrobic acid. Encapsulated in a gelatin capsule.
NOw if 1/4 tsp. contains 3 billion you may be able to take 1/2 tsp.at a time. I only take 1 capsule with breakfast. On the bottle it says to take 3 capsules a day. I find that it must be working (cross fingers) as my D as not been as active as before not taking it.Maybe just a remission on my part. I hope this helps on how much to take. And maybe you can buy the capsules next time.Brand I use is by Webber Naturals,bought at Walmart. Take care. Another fellow Canadian, Sue
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Thanks. As it stands it appears I have both capsules as well as powder. Got both when going to a naturopath but other herbs he prescribed did not help condition and weakened my pocket book and of course not insured.
Seems to be more Canadians here than one realizes.
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How do you know if you need to take probiotics? Right now I take acacia, and drink peppermint tea, occasionally I take some gas-x to get rid of some pressure, just received equalactin but haven't tried it yet. I'm looking for ways to releive my general aching in my stomach, would these help?
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For me, it was a pooping issue. I was tired of the "rabbit droppings," and after reading all the posts in here I wondered whether all the antibiotics I had taken for all my bladder infections had wiped out all my "good gut flora." The posts I read said basically that the probiotics couldn't hurt me, so I figured what the heck I'd give them a try.
I was pleasantly surprised; I no longer have rabbit droppings and my poops are much more satisfying. There, that was subtle enough, wasn't it? Did I gross anyone out? 
By the way, you'll love that Equalactin. I keep it in my emergency medicine cabinet (in my purse) and use it when I get an attack on the road. It works much quicker than my meds, and when I have an intense attack, I take both. Thankfully, now those attacks are fewer and far between.
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I;m not sure Equalactin available in Canada but I am trying the probiotic method for now based on what Im seeing here on this site.
I too have had too many anti-biotics, especially Cipro for infection in my case of prostate.
Thanks for note.
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Re: Priobitics
#43883 - 02/09/04 10:29 AM
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Kandee
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Hi again ArtKen,
Here is something you may want to read:
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I do know if you are ever on antibiotics, for anything, you should be taking a LOT of probiotics at the same time. I've had my doc tell me to take 2 caps with ever meal, when my IBS was at it's worst. Now, these caps ( which are Ultra Flora Plus-DF, by Metagenics) contain, in just ONE, 7.5 billion Lactobacilllus acidophilus and 7.5 billion Bifidobacterium lactis. You do the math. That's a lot. I don't even think you can overdose on them. I now (religiously) take one with the morning meal, and one with the evening.......that's 15 billion of each strain daily. I do NOT notice a difference in it affecting constipation, one way or another, but according to the above information, it can. I think, as we age taking probiotics on a regular basis is just a smart practice, since nothing seems to work as good as it once did, unfortunately.
I'm also a firm believer in digestive enzymes and happen to think anyone over the age of 50 should use them as a digestive aid....but that's just my opinion.
I too, have diverticulosis, but it's mild.
I think you will have to decide what AMOUNT is right for you.
BTW, watch expiration dates, probiotics which are live cultures, have a short life span. They should stay refrigerated as well.
Maybe this helps.
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ArtKen,
Hope that it helps.  I know that the brand I use has done wonders for me. Both allowing me to have regular BM's and for overfall comfort.
Bevrs-
I have been using Jarro as well and am so thankful for it. I was wondering if you (or anyone)have found any information that states whether or not it is safe to stay on it forever if needed. I hate to think of giving it up and do not plan too unless I had too.
Just wondering
thanks
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Great Info.
I was just wondering about all that.
thanks 
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Yes, there's a lot; ShawnEric has posted many articles on probiotics, so you might do a search for his name. Here's one: web page Also search for "Attn: Shawneric / Unable to access Harvard probiotic article" -- and others (they're very lengthy -- but extremely informative).
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Have not heard of anything about not being safe over long periods. According to local naturopath it is quite beneficial. Of course there may be medical doctor's who who while saying it will not do harm question the need for them rather than just trying to obtain in other ways, such as food. My own doctor is neutral on the subject. His opinion is if it can work for you well go for it.
I have an old medical book written in 1927 by a Dr. Clendening called The Human Body. He goes into some detail re acidophilus Bacidophilus back then expressing opinion that how beneficial they were and would help in the reduction of people taking harsh laxatives. But he adds that his opinion is not generally agreed upon by other physicians. But he predicted that in future more attention would be given to it.
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Re: Priobitics
#43898 - 02/09/04 11:10 AM
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ArtKen
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Loc: Brantford, Ontario, Canada
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Thanks. Did watch for expiration dates,
Do you also take a fiber supplement? My doctor advises me to take Metamucil daily or something equal.
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Check out my response to kctrun in this thread. ShawnEric posted quite a few articles on this subject, which are extremely informative, and should answer many of your questions -- and more! Do a search in this board for "ShawnEric" and "probiotics" -- you'll have enough reading to keep you out of trouble for at least a few hours. 
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Re: Priobitics
#43915 - 02/09/04 11:58 AM
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Kandee
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Metamucil works for many people. My husband swears by it, but I take others.
If you haven't tried Heather's acacia you may want to, however I don't know about shipping to Canada.
Can you get Konsyl there? That's still my favorite and will work when nothing else does.
There are so, so, so many forms that you have to find one that is right for you. It's all trial and error and very individualized.
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Re: Priobitics
#43920 - 02/09/04 12:24 PM
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ArtKen
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Have not heard of Konsyl but will look it up.
Can get material from Heather. Problem is our Canadian dollar which is better than before (now 75 cents), but we also have to pay a 7% Sales Tax on the American price.
However will see what it cost.
Thanks.
This time of year with our winter this year wish I was in Southern California instead of Southern, Ontario, Caada
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Re: Priobitics
#43925 - 02/09/04 12:51 PM
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Kandee
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Loc: USA, Southern California
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Even with the added price and 7 % sales tax her acacia is reasonable. (We have a 7.75% sales tax where I live.)
Here is a link about Konsyl. If you have Walmarts they carry it, or any good drug store. I warn you....it thickens fast, so mix fast with tepid water and drink it fast. The acacia is not that way and can be put into your favorite beverage.
Konsyl
It IS psyllium but ground differently so easier on the system.
We are warmer than you for sure, but had our day of snow last week. Because where I am is elevated 3,000 ft. we are colder than the beach areas. It's considered High Desert and if you remember Roy Rogers/Dale Evans from the western movies, it's where they resided.
Come summer I'd rather be in Canada and enjoying the cooler weather and some good fishing.
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