Soy Dream Frozen Dessert is X-RATED!
#38673 - 01/18/04 05:37 PM
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Bevvy
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Mags and I were talking about my attack last night, and she asked how much fat is in the mocha fudge I had. I thought I had her -- but she proved me wrong. I was shocked to discover it has 39% fat for a 70g. serving. (How much is 70g.? A cup? Cup and a half? One scoop? Two?)
Just for the heck of it, I checked on the chocolate and the vanilla. They're even WORSE! They both contain -- are you ready? -- 45% fat!
OMG! We've been talking about this stuff in this board all this time -- and not realizing how fatty it is! I don't know how much 70g. is, but I had approximately 2 scoops of the stuff. I had THE WORST attack last night, was sick all day today, and I'm still nauseated tonight. 
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That's why I eat the Rice Dream Ice Cream, but VANILLA only, it has somthing like 6 grams fat per 1/2 cup serving. I eat 1/4 cup only at a time, but being the chocolate lover I am, I sprinkle Ghirardelli hot cocoa mix, or their sweetened cocoa on top of it. Wurkz fur me! 
Kandee Rice Dream Frozen Desserts Info
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Okay, I'm on a campaign now to cut out all my fat intake! This is WAR!
Anyone know how much fat in the ADBs? TessLouise? The post doesn't specify. I ain't eatin' no more!
GRRRR.
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Their cocoa marble fudge is only 9%. That's what I eat and it doesn't give me any trouble.
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Having an attack can put you at war with food. I doubt the brownies are really high fat as there isn't much oil in them. I'm sorry you are having such a rough time. None of us deserve this disorder since the people on this board are such caring and nice people.
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Have you tried SharonMello's no-fat brownies? There is no fat, really...in them. I eat them all the time, just because of that!!!
Kandee
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Hey Bev!
I'm glad we may have figured it out. I'm pretty sure the ABD's are okay. You could always swing over to No-Pudge!  Just kidding! The ABD's are really low fat. TessLouise wouldn't steer you wrong. 
Have you ever thought of trying sorbet? It's fat free. Or, do you have Luigi's Italian Water Ice there? A coworker turned me on to their fudge ones - they're fat free, but I swear they don't taste it!! They are so good!
Maybe you should get an ice-cream maker, and you can control what's in it. I love to make sorbets in mine.
Hope you're feeling better soon! 
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Thanks, Girlfriend. I'm a little better, but my tummy is HUGE and very tender.
I just finished going through the pantry with my calculator. It wasn't pretty.
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9% Fat v. 45%?
#38712 - 01/18/04 07:20 PM
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Bevvy
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Joan, how can that be? How can one flavor be 45% fat (the vanilla and the chocolate) and another flavor be only 9%? Are we doing this right?
Work with me now. You take the total number of grams of fat, multiply by 9, right? You with me so far? Then you divide that figure by the total number of calories to get the percentage. Right? Are we sympatico?
You still come up with only 9% fat in your flavor? REALLY?
I have to have it.
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Are you positive it wasn't stomach flu. I heard a lot of that is going around.
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I noticed that the Soy Dream ice cream has a lot of fat, too. I was shocked! But, I usually eat Soy Delicious Mint Marble Fudge, which has, I think, 3 grams of fat per serving (1/2 cup). The one that I always eat is the Wholesoy Caramel ice cream, it only has 1 gram of fat per serving. And it tastes really, really good!
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Since Math has never been my subject I will just tell you what it says on the container.
150 cal per half cup
50 cal from fat
total fat 6g or 9%
0.5g saturated fat
0 cholesterol
I'll let you do the math. Let me know what you come up with.
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It's 30% fat.
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Joan, I come up with a different figure than 9% -- quite a bit different! I figure it has 36%. Isn't the 9% figure the amount of your TOTAL DAILY INTAKE?
If you take the total number of fat (6g) and multiply it by 9 (number of calories from fat) you get 54, then you divide that by the total number of calories (150) to get the percentage, and that's 36%. Am I mistaken?
I'm curious about something. You said that's for a half cup serving, right? Where did you get that half cup figure? The carton I have is in grams, so the serving size is 70 grams. Is that a half cup? OMG! I had 2 scoops, comparable to MUCH more than a half cup! That means I had . . . . HOW MUCH FAT?
Now I really AM sick!
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Hey, thanks, Heavenlee!
I'm putting these on my grocery list -- along with Soy Delicious Cookie Avalanche. Have you tried that? Wonder how much fat it has . . .
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You know, Guar Gum is listed as an ingredient on all of the Rice Dream frozen desserts. I am intolerant to Guar gum (also known as Benefiber), as many people are. It is a laxative and can be a real problem for people with sensitive digestive systems. Additives, too, can be a major problem.
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Good call, and you're right....36% according to my math too....No wonder I only allow myself 1/2 serving. (I tend to count TOTAL fat grams for the entire day, spaced out over the day...if that makes any sense). Sure glad my health food store is out of the stuff a lot. I only buy it about once every 3 months....
Can't do soy so that's out..............sheesh, back to the lower fat smoothies!!!
KK
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Soy Delicious
#38801 - 01/19/04 09:21 AM
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Kree
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Bad news... I checked my freezer and the Cookie Avalanche is 40% fat! BUT... personally I do fine with it if I have a small amount after a good meal. It's not something I would eat by itself. I'm not condoning breaking the 25% rule, but even Heather has said it's okay to eat a tiny bit of bad things after a high soluble fiber meal, right?
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You know this is a good point. Also -- I think a lot of this is stress too. When we know that we're being bad... and we're stressing over the fact that so many foods are over the limit... that could be causing a lot of problems too. I just eat it in small amounts and don't worry about it.
I haven't had any attacks yet {{{crossing fingers & knocking on wood}}} I think the key is having it after a modest, safe, meal - and then having a modest amount. I also don't have it every night. I have the soy "ice cream" about twice a week --- I use the ADB brownies or something like that for my dessert other nights when I want something sweet.
I did have a bagel with my chocolate spread last night - a fairly thin coat. It was pretty good (not as good as I remember nutella -- but that was memories....) It's a little thicker... and I could tell it has more fat than what I usually eat. I didn't have an attack -- but I would say go thin when spreading and only after a non-fat meal with this one. The fat % is very high. It was a nice indulgence though. For those that don't have problems with small amounts of dairy -- the Nutella may have less fat and be a better bet -- I don't have a jar in front of me to see.
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Yeah Right
#38840 - 01/19/04 11:31 AM
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Bevvy
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I can't use that excuse anymore. I am SOOO on a campaign to stamp out all FAT! I'm checking out that Soy Delicious mint marble fudge or Wholesoy caramel. If they can't cut the fat, then I can do without. You folks who enjoy sorbet, well, more power to you -- but it doesn't cut it with ME.
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But mom, if you have it after a "modest, safe meal" -- even having just a "modest amount" of the frozen dessert on top of the meal is simply too much food. I wish I could eat that size meal in one sitting, but I can't. It's either or -- either the meal or the frozen dessert. When I had my attack, I had just finished the acacia with my fennel tea, then my fave frozen dessert. A few hours later, BAM!
Does that make sense? I guess it does if the percentage of fat is too high. 
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I'm afraid sorbet doesn't do it for me either. I do however love the baskin robbins daquiri ice.
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Lets not go there.
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Did you always have attacks like this though? I mean you were the one who told me about these products -- and said how much you liked them. It was only recently that they bothered you. So I wonder if it's that you ate too much -- or stress -- or something like that causing it. Just an idea -- I could be just rambling nonsense if it did bother you all along.
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Mom is ON it!
#38894 - 01/19/04 01:30 PM
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Bevvy
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Wow! I'm IMPRESSED! How did you remember? Gosh, I'm even flattered.
You know, I thought about that last night too -- I've been eating this stuff for well over a year now, and I've even had more in one sitting than I had the other night, and it never bothered me.
I'm beginning to wonder if I have the flu. I'm still nauseated (not a normal symptom for my IBS-D) after THREE days.
Still, I think it's important to be aware of the amount of fat in this stuff and to keep our portions VERRRRY small.
Thanks again! You're a cool mom! 
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You're welcome! You're right -- we do need to keep the amounts modest -- and I hope you get to feeling better soon.
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Soy Delicious Neapolitan (vanilla, chocolate, strawberry) has 4g of fat which is 6% total daily value for 1/2 cup.
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Guar gum
#38932 - 01/19/04 02:46 PM
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LauraSue
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Guar gum is a big no-no for me too. All the vegetable gums, carrageenan, xantham gum, etc.
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Bev, I'd betcha a dollar you had/have a stomach flu bug. I was nauseous for 5 or 6 days after the one I had and it's also not a normal symptom for me of IBS-D.
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Heather, using the formula you gave us for finding fat content via fat calories and total calories, this calculation comes out at 30%. But when you do the multiplying x 9, the figure comes out at 36%? I would venture to eat the 30% safely, but probably would balk at the 36%. Why are the figures so different and which one should we go by when reading labels?
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