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Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other
      #372374 - 08/12/15 01:51 PM
newagain

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I am newly diagnosed with IBS. I find that I have a lot of rectal pressure and odd sensations in my anus, rectum, and in my lower back. Especially after eating. But it is on and off throughout the day. And my symptoms are worse when I lay down, almost like my colon is getting stimulated when I lay down. Does anyone else have these symptoms?

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Re: Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other new
      #372376 - 08/12/15 04:54 PM
sgcray

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I am newly diagnosed with IBS. I find that I have a lot of rectal pressure and odd sensations in my anus, rectum, and in my lower back. Especially after eating. But it is on and off throughout the day. And my symptoms are worse when I lay down, almost like my colon is getting stimulated when I lay down. Does anyone else have these symptoms?




Gas pressure and spasming. Eating usually initiates bowel movements, but your lower area needs to relax. Gas pressure would really make my back hurt. When I've layed down, sometime food rushes like it's catching up.

http://www.helpforibs.com/shop/suplmts/pmintcaps.asp :
A 2005 study in Phytomedicine reviewed 16 clinical trials investigating enteric-coated peppermint oil capsules in IBS. Nine out of 16 studies were randomized double blind cross over trials, five had a randomized double blind parallel group design and two were open labeled studies. Placebos were used in 12 trials and anticholinergics (smooth muscle relaxant drugs) in three studies as comparator. Eight out of 12 placebo controlled studies showed statistically significant effects in favor of peppermint oil capsules. Average response rates in terms of "overall success" were 58% (range 39-79%) for peppermint oil caps versus 29% (range 10-52%) for placebo. The three studies versus smooth muscle relaxants did not show differences between treatments; in other words, the peppermint oil capsules were as effective as the drugs. The study noted that both anticholinergic drugs and 5HT3/4-ant/agonists (such as Zelnorm and Lotronex) do not offer superior improvement rates over peppermint oil caps.

Taking into account the currently available drug treatments for IBS, the study noted that peppermint oil capsules may be the drug of first choice in IBS patients with non-serious constipation or diarrhea to alleviate general symptoms and to improve quality of life.


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Re: Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other new
      #372377 - 08/12/15 06:37 PM
newagain

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So someone can relate??!!! You are saying you have had this and you feel it is gas pressure and spasming?

I had the heathers peppermint oil capsules, fennel tea, and I also just added a bit of the tummy fiber. I am not seeing relief with the capsules. When do you take peppermint? Before every meal? I mostly was taking them at night since my symptoms are worse at night. But by the time I am bloated with gas and having pressure they don't seem to help. Thank younSO much for responding

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Re: Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other/Constipation and gas. new
      #372378 - 08/12/15 09:59 PM
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So someone can relate??!!! You are saying you have had this and you feel it is gas pressure and spasming?

I had the heathers peppermint oil capsules, fennel tea, and I also just added a bit of the tummy fiber. I am not seeing relief with the capsules. When do you take peppermint? Before every meal? I mostly was taking them at night since my symptoms are worse at night. But by the time I am bloated with gas and having pressure they don't seem to help. Thank younSO much for responding




Thanks--long post,
You had said you were doing fodmaps diet with this diet (and fennel "tea" is higher in its fodmap), so I thought I'd post info on the peppermint caps;I like them (in lieu of not being able to do peppermint tea with my gerd/heartburn) and this site referenced the study saying they help with constipation;I think because mainly the peppermint relaxes (unkinks) the colon as well as helps with gas. I've gotten up an hour before the next A.M. alarm goes off to take my first cap for the day, then just an hour or less before lunch and dinner;If you have heartburn, then especially an hour before breakfast per instruction. It's hard if you don't want an A.M. anti-acid or a proton pump inhibitor (that you have to take 30 min before breakfast) to cause them to open up prematurely, which would end up being an 1 1/2 before the fiber right before breakfast. I've somehow done it that way and end up going right back to sleep for an hour. They do work by PREVENTING, so the gas at night would have to be prevented by taking earlier and throughout the day, AND EVERY DAY.

I need to comment especially if you are ibs-c, you have to drink plenty enough throughout the day, because water helps the acacia fiber move through better and get things out so they don't more rapidly ferment in the colon, causing excess gas. BTW, people can take the fiber spread throughout the day before eating anything.

Utilizing the fiber built slowly, (taking longer to build for constipation) and the peppermint+ caps (which includes the non-fodmap fennel (OIL) and the ginger oil) are a must for IBS. Remember, the acacia feeds the good Bifidus in your colon slowly, which is the best way to build good bacteria.

Extra help "IF" this pertains to your situation Per Heather:
It is definitely possible to transition from a laxative or other unnatural methods of alleviating constipation to Acacia. But, you can't simply switch from one to the other in a single day and expect equivalent results. What you CAN do is keep taking your usual dose of laxatives while you begin your Acacia and start to gradually increase your Acacia dose. When you've been able to reach a fairly high daily dose (say, 2-3 tablespoons) you can start to gradually decrease your laxative.

Keep increasing the Acacia and continue decreasing your laxative, taking each step slowly and carefully. This is not likely to be a fast process, but the slower and steadier you go the more likely it is to have a highly successful result. I've heard from numerous people who transitioned off of laxatives, senna, enemas, and even prescription constipation drugs and onto a soluble fiber supplement, with terrific results. But it took anywhere from one to six months, depending on how long their bowels had been dependent on the laxatives. Good things can be well worth the wait, and this is one of those situations where patience is truly a virtue. IBS is a lifelong problem for most people, so giving yourself a few months to make a tremendous improvement is not really taking too much time in the grand scheme of things.


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Re: Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other/Constipation and gas. new
      #372380 - 08/13/15 09:23 AM
newagain

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You have helped me so so much. Thank you!!! I will call the store and get some more peppermint caps and will start taking them preventatively.

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Re: Questions about Symptoms- Rectal pressure and other/Constipation and gas/Peppermint caps new
      #372381 - 08/13/15 03:00 PM
sgcray

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Yey for prevention, and please post back to let us know how they've worked for constipation;I checked reviews both on this site and on amazon looking for folks with constipation reactions that look favorable. Remember to wait at least an hour or more after a snack so on an empty stomach before taking before dinner and with a little water;Otherwise they'll open up before they get down to the colon and you'll feel the too strong peppermint up in the stomach and throat. They are meant to resist stomach acid with their enteric coating. I think they are great and convenient instead of peppermint tea (especially if heartburn is already present, since the tea can "sometimes" unfortunately relax the esophagus allowing the acid up where it shouldn't be contributing to more heartburn problem. Irregardless, there are websites that still say to do the peppermint tea form in lieu of heartburn.


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