Re: Flare up
#371061 - 04/04/14 06:55 AM
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Syl
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Lean protein should not be a problem. It has no residue to ferment in the colon.
I suggest SCD/FODMAP to those thinking of trying SCD because I know FODMAP is clinically proven even though there is really is little if any evidence to support the SCD diet. Even Dr. Weil says in his write-up on SIBO "The SCD diet eliminates all grains, dairy products, processed sugars and canned vegetables. I've seen no studies indicating it to be effective for any of the disorders for which it is recommended." As an alternative medicine practitioner I would have expected him to be more positive
Diet to cure SIBO?
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Yes, the evidence, at this stage, seems mostly anecdotal. Besides, the SCD/GAPS diet is likely to be higher in fat and IF than most people with IBS can tolerate. I'm conflicted. I think I'll persevere with the EFI/FODMAP diet for the time being. Perhaps I'll go back to the 'break the cycle' diet while I wait testing for SIBO.
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I was interested in this post as I have not felt better since I gave up wheat(gluten), yeast, and processed (HFCS)/artificial sugars. In particular, yeast, most dairy, and wheat, once safe foods for me, now give me grief. I don't pretend to know all the ins and outs of the paleo diet, but I thought this was interesting. I have read many personal stories where those who have tried the Paleo have felt much better. I would be willing to try something new/different (that's what I actually ended up doing) , if the "safe" foods I were eating still were not giving me the relief I was looking for. Everyone is different. Not one size fits all.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/paleodietevo2/research/Biological+and+Clinical+Potential+of+a+Palaeolithic+Diet+The+Paleo+Diet.pdf
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Re: Flare up
#371109 - 04/14/14 04:21 AM
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Very strange paper. It is titled "Biological and Clinical Potential of a Palaeolithic Diet" and draws this conclusion
Conclusions: Lean meat, fish, vegetables and fruit may be optimal, rather than a strictly vegetarian diet, in the prevention of cardiovascular disease, diabetes and insulin resistance.
Which is a conclusion that can be drawn without the paleo diet -- truly bizzare  AND it makes no conclusions about the usefulness of the diet for managing functional bowel disorders like IBS. And the study wasn't conclusive enough to make a statement any stronger than it maybe .... not is better than a vegetarian diet. And no comparison was made to a normal non-vegetarian diet.
The safest version of the paleo diet is the FODMAP version. Here is an example
Fructose malabsorption, FODMAPs and the Paleo diet
The National Health Service (NHS) in the UK calls it the
Cavemane Fad Diet
By the way - yeast is not a known IBS trigger. It is a notion fabricated by alternative medicine practitioners. It is dead when cooked and simply adds a tiny amount of protein. And the fructans - a high FODMAP ingredient - is a clinically proven IBS trigger for some people
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Syl- I wish someone could explain it. When I eat anything with yeast, it affects me. Whether it is, or is not creating true IBS, or just "symptoms" of IBS (gassy pain in my belly, loose bowels), that's how I feel after I eat yeast. Could be in soup, snacks, etc. No matter. I also work with a woman who has the same after-effects of eating yeast, and some of my family members gets those gassy feelings after eating bread. For me, I know to stay away from it...scientific research, or not. I wish it wasn't that way for me.
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Re: Flare up
#371113 - 04/17/14 07:33 AM
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It is mostly something that the yeast is in like wheat. Wheat is a known IBS trigger food for some people as it contains fructans - a high FODMAP ingredient. 
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