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      #364426 - 04/22/11 11:46 PM
SarahT

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Hi,
I am in the process of trying to read as much as I can on these boards to learn. I bought the IBS recipe book, but now realise I need the First year book to understand more.

I have been told I have IBS, just because I think they don't know what else to say about my symptoms.

I don't really care about the label, just feeling well.

I've tried so many things over the years, read so many books. I do know fibre is a problem, but I just want to calm everything down now. I had read so many good things about coconut oil being good, but a couple of days on this has just lead to a horrible ibs attack, so I am not on the right track with that.

I have read fat is a trigger, but I also have endometriosis and want to help my hormones with good fats. Are they ok to have, fish oil capsules? Fat in the past has helped my bowel. But I am very confused and overwhelmed at the moment with all the information.

Are you able to clarify the fat we can take? I currently feel at my wits end with all this and I have run out of ideas of how to be well. I really hope this will give me some answers to my health problems, because I am nervous of most food.

Many thanks
Sarah

ps. Do you ship supplements to the UK?

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Re: Fat problems new
      #364431 - 04/23/11 07:48 AM
Syl

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Welcome to the board,

Check this web page where is says "Keep your fat intake to 20% - 25% of your total calories, and make your fats count. They should be monounsaturated and contain essential fatty acids, so choose fat sources such as olive oil, canola oil, avocados, finely ground nuts, fatty fish, flax oil, etc. Because all fats, even heart-healthy choices, are still potential IBS triggers, please follow the Irritable Bowel Syndrome dietary guidelines detailed in How to Eat for IBS."

1 gram of fat/oil contains 9 calories and 1 teaspoon contains about 5 grams of oil therefore it contains about 45 calories.

You might also check the links in my signature for more important information on the dietary management of functional GI disorders such as IBS.

Ask lots of questions. There are a lot of knowledgeable people on the message board.
Good luck.

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Re: Fat problems new
      #364462 - 04/26/11 06:13 AM
CellSalts_Work

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Surely that can't be right...
I thought 1g of fat contained 9 kcal??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_energy


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Thanks - typo fixed -nt- new
      #364463 - 04/26/11 06:50 AM
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Re: Thanks - typo fixed -nt- new
      #364465 - 04/26/11 09:39 AM
capricorn1942

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Then 1 teaspoon of fat/oil contains 5 x 9000 = 45000 cal? Is this right? Seems much too high.

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The difference between calories new
      #364467 - 04/26/11 10:01 AM
Syl

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Check olive oil or peanut oil in the USDA database

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/

It says "Oil, olive, salad or cooking" has 884 kcal per 100 grams or 8.84 kcal per gram or 8840 calories per gram.

A calorie in nutrition is 1000 times bigger than the calorie used in laboratories.

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Re: The difference between calories new
      #364469 - 04/26/11 12:46 PM
hudlander

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Thanks Syl....I emailed you twice several days ago and have not heard back...y?

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Re: The difference between calories new
      #364495 - 04/28/11 01:59 AM
CellSalts_Work

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Me too.. hope your email account's OK?!

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Another question about fat new
      #364497 - 04/28/11 04:34 AM
Allisonmary

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I know the general rule to follow is 25% calories from fat. However, I was wondering if you have a specific product that gets a good percentage of the calories from protein rather than carbs, if 25% fat percentage is too high for some? Or what about if the calories are coming from added sugar? It doesn't really make sense to me that by adding sugar to a product you can also add fat and have it be safer. How does this work?

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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364498 - 04/28/11 05:25 AM
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Your question doesn't make sense. Adding pure protein or sugar to a meal does not change its fat content. And the remainder of the 75% of calories can come from any protein or carb source. Could you explain more clearly what you are asking? Are you asking if 25% fat is too high for some people?

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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364499 - 04/28/11 05:41 AM
Allisonmary

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What I meant was the other 75% of the calories. It doesn't matter if 50% are carbs/50% protein, or 80% carbs/20% protein. WOuld the higher carb option be safer for a higher fat percentage of 25%? Make sense?
I had the rice and almond milks in mind when I asked about adding sugar to a product to add more calories. The unsweetened version has a very high fat percentage but is obviously healthier. THere is no change in the sweetened version except the addition of sugar. This raises the caloric content so that the oils/fat are no longer an issue? That seems odd. Make sense?

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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364500 - 04/28/11 06:24 AM
CellSalts_Work

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but that's how it works. from an IBS point of view, adding sugar/carbs, which is really bad from every other point of view, makes it safer as it's the overall fat content that counts.



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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364501 - 04/28/11 06:51 AM
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The general guideline is 25% of calories from fat per day or per meal not per food item like almond milk. As you say the rule doesn't make a lot of sense for a single glass of almond milk. However, if you had it with a tuna sandwich and some fruit then it makes sense. You can have to use common sense when using guidelines such as the calories from fat guideline.

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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364502 - 04/28/11 07:38 AM
Allisonmary

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I get that, but would it be safe to have a glass of the sweetened almond milk wihtout any food?

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Re: Another question about fat new
      #364508 - 04/28/11 10:08 AM
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I drink unsweetened chocolate Blue Diamond almond milk with out food regularly. It contains 3.5 grams of fat and 3 grams of carb per per 240 gram (1 cup) of almond milk. I usually only drink 1/2 cup at a time.

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