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Actually God didn't... new
      #364423 - 04/22/11 04:25 PM
dragonfly

Reged: 05/12/08
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Loc: canada

..intend for us to buy all our food from a grocery store.
For the last oh I don't know...lets say..a few hundred years give or take..(though I know it's more)...we grew our own food,baked our own bread and oh my god!!!we have survived!
It goes without question that making your own food at home is much safer.
Did you know that blueberry bagels actually do not contain blueberries?They are a soy product that has been made into little blue globs of goo that they can call "blue berries".

Just one example of what manufacturers put in our food.
..and furthermore if bread has a shelf life of more than one or two days...what did they put into it to make this so?
Does that even bother you?

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IBS-D since 1999...mostly stable..i do cheat too.Bad me.


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Re: You might need more than just dietary changes... new
      #364434 - 04/23/11 11:13 AM
hudlander

Reged: 09/26/10
Posts: 198


Quote:

especially because diet has become a huge source of anxiety and stress for you. Dietary changes should make you feel better and thus reduce your stress about IBS. If that's not the case, then you might focus specifically on some other approaches.

Not sure if you've looked into gut-directed hypnotherapy, but it's got great success rates, including for people who didn't get results they needed from dietary changes.

You can check for practitioners who have gut-specific training and live in your area, your insurance might cover it, and you can also choose an at-home program if you'd rather.

There's a ton of info about all of this and the different options here http://www.helpforibs.com/hypnosis/

Best,
H




Thank you Heather.
It looks like more and more something else may have to be done.

I have been on your diet for 6 years, and yes I will never in the foreseeable future go back to dairy!
That said, I clearly am not stable and I suffer from awful bloating/distension and on/off D or C daily.

I have been working with an RD and tried with your diet, EFI, a combo of FODMAPS.
Unfortunately, this too hasn't worked.

I mean, if I were to eat a McDonalds hamburger with french fries and cheese, I would feel much worse, so in that sense it has worked.
But absent those triggers I still am doing awful.

The only choices left are:
1) Candida diet
2) SCD diet
3) Full elimination diet
4) Marijuna
5) Hypnosis

I don't get it.

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Re: You might need more than just dietary changes... new
      #364435 - 04/23/11 11:21 AM
Thai

Reged: 10/04/09
Posts: 104


But your're better, right?
Why so pessimistic?
What is not to get?

Keep trying, looking and adding things to the things that already have offered you some help.

From what I can tell, most people have to employ numerous treatments to get to where they can function, are comfortable and satisfied with where they are.

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Re: update new
      #364954 - 06/01/11 03:18 PM
Susie1985

Reged: 05/04/11
Posts: 211


Must update my post, as I've recently ventured to incorporate a lot more IF into my diet and have success to report. I think it comes down to the individual what the worst trigger is, and for Syl it is IF, so he limits overall IF, for me it's fat and been doing a lot better with IF than I'd have ever thought/what I used to assume. But I try to make sure I balance it out with enough SF just to be safe and also cos SF is v good for you health-wise.

http://huhs.harvard.edu/assets/File/OurServices/Service_Nutrition_Fiber.pdf
my trust in this prompted me to revise my fear of all these fruits and veggies, most contain much more SF than I used to think...

pls bear in mind that a lot of these are FODMAP caution foods, so you may still have problems with them even if IF-SF proportions are OK.

fructans cause me so much bloating that i tend to avoid them altogether (except for bread).

so here it is:
a= very good source of antioxidants/otherwise extremely beneficial
f=fructan source, ie I personally don't eat them, you may find it's OK for you.

IF-SF equal
broccoli (a)
asparagus (f)
brussels sprouts (f)
cucumber
onion, fresh (a,f)
dried apricots
fresh apricots
cherries
grape fruit
peach
dried prunes, dried raisins
water melon


almost same SF-IF
cauliflower
grapes
figs
sesame seeds
orange


nuts
peanut butter- I eat it without SF and it's fine for me..

based on this:
http://chetday.com/beansfightdiabetes2.htm
http://www.kickas.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=143543

legumes
half a cup of black beans (a) 1.5g RS (resistant starch), navy beans, lentils similar
so
black beans almost equal SF-IF
navy beans 1g excess IF
other beans seem a lot more IF heavy

green beans (a): ½ cup 2.0 0.5 1.5, ie 1g excess IF
kale (a): ½ cup 2.5 0.7 1.8 , ie 1g
spinach (a): ½ cup 1.6 0.5 1.1 , ie 0.5g

green pepper raw (a): 1 cup chopped 1.7 0.7 1.0 , ie 0.3g
mushrooms fresh: 1 cup pieces 0.8 0.1 0.7, ie 0.5g
blueberries fresh (a): ¾ cup 1.4 0.3 1.1, ie 0.8g (let's say one cup 1g)
raspberries (a): 1 cup 3.3 0.9 2.4, ie 1.5g
strawberries (a): 1 ¼ cup 2.8 1.1 1.7, ie 0.5g

peas: ½ cup 4.3 1.3 3.0, ie 1.5g

(excess IF I balanced out with Benefiber UK, ie pure wheat dextrin)

taken to pearl barley too, has a lot of RS and I love the taste

I don't eat peas, but I eat just about everything else (apart from those fructans above) and am delighted cos all these are really healthy and usually low on the glycemic load-front, something that I pay particular attention to these days.

So there's the whole thing for you, with numbers, cos I have to channel my love for Maths somewhere and also, thought it may be useful for people.

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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)

before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010


FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml


[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]

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Re: raw vs cooked new
      #364955 - 06/01/11 03:24 PM
Susie1985

Reged: 05/04/11
Posts: 211


I reckon that raw fruits and veggies may contain a certain amount of SF and IF, but SF is a lot more accessible when something as cooked as opposed to when it's raw.

So I cook mushrooms, I steam dark green veggies (even rocket salad, I really like the taste still), never eat green salads raw, I cook strawberries, raspberries, blueberries and various red/black currants into my oats.

I prefer cooked or warm food anyhow taste and texture-wise, always have done. I even prefer toast to normal bread. But this is probably an idiosyncrasy of mine.

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now: stable through EFI+FODMAP dieting (no lactose/no fructose/some fructans and some polyols)

before: IBS-D(pseudo-diarrhoea), bloating, often unbearable pain esp from too much fat: Apr 2007- Dec 2010


FODMAPs: http://www.todaysdietitian.com/newarchives/072710p30.shtml


[I've tried VSL#3 -> I could tolerate v good amounts of IF (even with less SF), it worked great (but overall I find it too expensive)]

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