1 cup of milk?
#36415 - 01/09/04 09:15 PM
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peaches
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Ok guys, I take a foods class, and a few days ago we learned about milk. It said that even lactose intolerant people should be able to tolerate at least one cup of milk, and in the one cup in 30% of your DV (Daily Value) for calcium, and 25% of your DV for phophorus (which combine to make teeth and bones stronger), so I was thinking that maybe, after a meal, I could try having a cup of milk? How do you think that will turn out?
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I can tell you how it would turn out for me -- I'd be doubled over with my head in the toilet and my butt in the chamber pot! 
No thanks.
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I wouldn't be able to do it.
Did you ask how well you'll be able to tolerate the whey & casein along with the lactose? 
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I'm not lactose intol., but milk causes C for me. My 9 year old is back to a dairy free diet for the same reason. Milk seems to be a bad idea to me - even one cup.
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I'd have my head in the trash can and my butt on the toilet -- for about 6 hours!!!  It's not just about the lactose..... Take a supplement - eat some other calcium rich foods -- milk is not the only thing with calcium. Maybe this teacher works for the dairy people - lol (just a joke) - NOTHING could make me drink a glass of milk.
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I don't know whether I'm lactose intolerant - I don't get instant D after milk, but it is THE WORST thing for making me C - guaranteed. Also get awful wind (gas) and catarrh from just a glass of milk. The most I could tolerate on a daily basis is about one chocolate from a box after a high soluble fibre meal. If I eat choccy, it tends to be the dark stuff - no dairy for me.
Although calcium levels are high in milk, it's not that easily absorbed by the body - it's a myth (good PR by the dairy industry) that this is the best form of calcium. Do a bit of research on milk on the web - you'll see that it's a highly controversial food. A huge proportion of the world's population is TOTALLY intolerant to milk and it's linked to all kinds of diseases. That's not even thinking about the antibiotics and other drugs that is fed to these milk producing animals.
If you think about it, milk is totally unnatural for us humans. No other species on this planet takes milk (even from it's own mother) beyond infancy - how many of us want our children to grow up to be good strong healthy cows! lol
I'm sure Heather has referred to the myth of dairy goodness in her 1st Year IBS book...
Shellsbells
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I too am not lactose intol. but unlike you don't notice a difference in my "C". In fact, don't notice any ill affects at all. I DON'T consume milk mainly because of the XO factor and get my calcium from supplements and other food sources. Have to admit however to cheating on the dairy now and then but when I do it is ONLY with a little non-fat organic plain yogurt or non-fat cottage cheese as those are the safest and most beneficial. Since I can't do soy, and the rice knock-offs are to high in fat I'm getting none, and I mean none of any dairy flavored foods and boy there are times I miss those. The rice/almond/oat beverages don't always cut it with me.
Kandee
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I agree with Mags, there's more in milk that bothers people with IBS than just lactose. Also, having been lactose intolerant myself for many years, I can tell you that I could never have had a whole glass of milk, even before developing IBS. People have varying tolerances to lactose, so some can have a bunch and others can't even tolerate trace amounts. So in other words, it depends on your body. Honestly, I wouldn't try it if I were you. You can get soy and rice milks that are fortified so they have just as much calcium as a glass of dairy milk. But it's your choice!
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THIS IN AN AMENDMENT TO MY PRIVIOUS POST…………..HERE I AM LOOKING AT IT MORE IN LINE WITH YOU, PEACHES, A VERY YOUNG WOMAN WHO HAS LOTS OF GROWING LEFT TO DO AND WHO NEEDS ALL THE NUTRIENTS YOU CAN GET TO AVOID DEFICIENCIES AS YOU GET OLDER………..
Peaches,
Having taught HS foods classes, (about million years ago, or so it seems) and now looking at your bio and seeing you're still in HS, I can tell you that one reason we Home Ec teachers have pushed milk is because young women are so highly deficient in calcium, and have always been avoiding it because they think it makes them fat. In fact the latest I read was that LESS than 20% of ALL American women consume ENOUGH calcium. (Since you're taking a foods class I don't have to reiterate why you need adequate amounts of calcium daily.)
But, you have a special problem….It's called IBS. Your teacher may not know much about IBS. Milk may be a trigger food for you but you'll only know if you try it. Even if you CAN tolerate a little of it, don't push it and think you can drink the recommended 3-4 glasses a day. You can't. It's more likely you can have it only once and a while. If you want to wow your teacher, do your own personal research on other foods containing calcium and then calculate how much of them daily you would need to equal the calcium you'd get from milk. Don't forget to look at the foods you are consuming now, which may be calcium enriched, like soy or rice milk/cheese, dried cereals, etc.
But, like the title I made to this post says, if it boils down to being out with your friends at a fast food place, and they are all having cokes and you don't want to look like a dork by not ordering one too, get milk instead………….maybe you'll start something!
A teacher's 2 cents………………….Kandee
I'm going to take hits for this I KNOW, and I still don't advocate drinking milk as a regular practice, UNLESS, you have your own dairy cow, (or better yet, your own milk goat), know what it's fed, conduct your own safe milking practices, and consume it in it's raw state immediately.
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LOL Kandee! Well I was reading some of your posts and you guys were talking about glasses of milk? I just meant a measuring cup full maybe? I dunno lol. I can tolerate it fine if I have lots of fiber before. That, combined with vitamins, gives me about 75% of the DV for the day. Maybe I'm just weird!! lol
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