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Trouble sleeping.
      #363148 - 01/26/11 08:06 AM
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Last night I had a horrible time trying to get a little shut-eye: I came to bed about 10:30, and waited till about 3-ish. It was torture! But, anyways, I'd like to know if that, in any way, affects the bowel, IBS-wise. I think it has to do something with the digestive pattern, but I'm not sure.

Thanks, guys!

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363155 - 01/26/11 01:48 PM
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It has been know for some time that sleep disturbances are not uncommon in individuals with IBS. The distrubances are related to abnormal intestinal function during sleep. You can read the details of the finding in Sleep and gastric function in IBS.

I experienced troubled sleep patterns and weird dreams/nightmares for many years. During the past 5-6 years I have gotten my symptoms under control primarily with diet management. The dreams/nightmares have stopped and my sleep returned to normal. Once you get your diet under control and the symptoms have decreased you may experience the same thing.

What meals and snacks did you have yesterday? Do you drink pop or fruit juices? If yes, which ones do you drink?


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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363158 - 01/26/11 03:52 PM
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Well, yesterday, I had Oscar Mayer's Turkey Bacon, as always; never really gave me problems to my knowledge, for breakfast. For lunch, I had the typical PB&J sandwich, Jif, Welch's, and Wegmans. For dinner, I had a bowl of delicious Kellogg's Corn Pops (I believe Heather recommends Pops.) with some Lactaid 1% Milkfat Low-Fat 100% Lactose Free milk. Now before you say it, I am often able to tolerate milk, especially this milk.

One thing I'd like to note is that...well, I think I already said this before, but I've been drinking Minute Maid's fruit punch for about 10 years. I've been told that it's bad because contains High Fructose Corn Syrup. If my intestines had a thing with HFCS, I think I would've found that out by now.
Thanks for helping out, BTW.

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363161 - 01/26/11 05:12 PM
Thai

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If you have been drinking it for 10 years and in pain for 8, what makes you think there are no issues with it?

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363162 - 01/26/11 05:19 PM
Dizzy

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ok heres the thing did you eat the bacon alone? because thats a bad idea, honestly if i ate what you ate I'd probably be in a hospital for pain.the thing is I know your young and you don't have full controle over your diet, but you continue to ask questions and ignore the answers, you have to help yourself. there is no one else who can. why don't you try the diet the proper way for like two weeks? cut out all the questionable stuff. put in sf foods as a base. ditch the corn syrup, milk and high fat triggers and try the diet for real. you aren't diagnosed for ibs, but certainly trying the diet and seeing if it brings releif would be a way to help affirm your self diagnosis. everyone is here to be supportive, but you have to change what your doing if you want a result

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363163 - 01/26/11 05:33 PM
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It's just that I don't get pains/attacks every day. Besides, I think I've been getting more pains more recently know that I worry about it sometimes.

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363164 - 01/26/11 06:19 PM
Thai

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Your signature says you are dedicated to putting a stop to the pain but you are continuing to eat what you were eating when you first joined. And like dizzy I know that maybe you do not have the full control of your diet but surely you can modify it to a certain degree?
The sugar, the fat, the lack of vegs and fiber are all so very unhealthy not to mention so IBS unfriendly.

Just try to listen to what we are telling you and if you have to, make the changes in small doses.
And of course if there is stress involved, this needs to be addressed as well.

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How would you know .... new
      #363170 - 01/27/11 04:28 AM
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IBS-like pain for about 6-8 years. Yet to be diagnosed




If you have had pain for 6-8 years and you have been drinking fruit juices and eat jams and other foods with high fructose corn syrup all that time how would you know it isn't a problem until you remove it from your diet for a period of time?

Perhaps the pains in your intestine have been telling you for the past 6-8 years that something in your diet is not right - maybe high fructose corn syrup, dairy and junk foods are some of those not right things.

Do your parents or grandparents ever prepare proper healthy meals for you?

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Re: Trouble sleeping. new
      #363172 - 01/27/11 08:04 AM
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Well, the only healthy meal I know I can eat right now is a dry bowl of Corn Pops or Cheerios. Unless, if the milk I'm drinking isn't bad (100% Lactose free; 1% milk-fat). But, when it comes to a beverage, I don't really have a choice. We have a bottle of "Simply Orange" Orange juice. But, besides that it's Minute Maid and some fruit punch juice boxes. One reason why I eat the questionable foods I eat right now is because I'm really sure I can tolerate it, and my grandpa, as you guys probably know, is almost 100% sure that my pains are because of stress.

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"Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363173 - 01/27/11 08:24 AM
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try sticking with it for a couple of weeks and leave the other juices alone for now.

Did you show you grandpa the article Heather wrote in her newletter about how stress does not cause IBS but stress can make it symptoms worse? In summary in the brief article she discusses how IBS is indisputably a physical problem.

I have asked this question 3 times.
Do your parents or grandparents every prepare regular healthy meals for you such as chicken, rice and carrots?



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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363174 - 01/27/11 08:30 AM
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Oh, gosh! I'm really sorry! I thought I answered it, but I guess not! Well, to answer your question, I haven't had any of those.
And, this might be hard to believe, but I think it'll be hard to show it to him, but I'll give it a try. Thanks!

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Read this after the post below. new
      #363175 - 01/27/11 08:35 AM
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By the way, if you could, could you please put in a redirecting link towards that specific newsletter? If you could, that would be great! Thanks!

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Re: Read this after the post below. new
      #363177 - 01/27/11 08:38 AM
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Brain-Gut Dysfunction & IBS:"What exactly does it mean that IBS is a brain-gut dysfunction? These symptoms are not all in my head!"

Look near the bottom of the newsletter.

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363182 - 01/27/11 11:08 AM
Thai

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Nascar,

Are you totally on your own when it comes to preparing meals?
Do you have any input in to the shopping of food items?

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363184 - 01/27/11 12:13 PM
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Sometimes I make my own meals, but when I eat cooked foods (I.e. Bacon) someone else (I.e. My grandpa or aunt) makes it for me.

When it comes to shopping, my grandpa goes out to get stuff. If you mean who decides what goes on the shopping list, that's up to grandpa, but sometimes I can make requests.

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363186 - 01/27/11 02:07 PM
Dizzy

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ok so here are some things you should request, they are super easy anyone can make them
cream of rice ceral ( you microwave it or even stir it with boiled water)
minute rice (just follow directions on box
instant mashed potatoes, (hot water or microwave)
these are good soluable fiber bases, eat something like this every meal
get plain rice or soy milk, and if you can't then live without milk for a while, dairy is a trigger period, lactose or not
ask for fat free saltine crackers (great snacks and stabalizing)
and pretzels (dairy free)
there is nothing that will red flag your gramps in there cept maybe the soy milk, but it's all available at normal super markets, i would also switch out the corn pops for rice chex, eaten dry or with soy/rice milk, but this kind of stuff should give you a souluble fiber diet base. and if i were you I would limit, or ditch the bacon for a couple weeks to see if that helps.

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363189 - 01/27/11 04:49 PM
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Those all sound like good suggestions! Thank you!
About pretzels, will Rold Gold be fine? Also, one of our local stores sell twisted pretzel sticks made with honey, I believe. Those are okay, too, right?

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363190 - 01/27/11 04:59 PM
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Regular pretzels are ok but I think the twisted honey ones may have whole wheat which is not safe. I found that out the hard way. Make sure to check the ingredients first.

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363191 - 01/27/11 05:08 PM
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Oh, and by the way, I thought Corn Pops were good. Check out Heather's brand name reccomendations for IBS-safe foods on the first page of this forum.

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363192 - 01/27/11 05:41 PM
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Check the ingredients. Rold Gold pretzels here contain high fructose corn syrup


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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363193 - 01/27/11 06:04 PM
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On e Frito-Lay website, there appears to be just regular old corn syrup in Rold Gold. :/

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363194 - 01/27/11 06:26 PM
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Great - that is exactly what you want. Enjoy!


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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363195 - 01/27/11 07:39 PM
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Wait, are you talking about the Corn Pops, or the Rold Gold pretzels?
(sorry if I'm being complicated )

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Re: "Simply Orange" is fine ... new
      #363199 - 01/28/11 04:55 AM
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You may want to try Snyder's sourdough pretzels. I can't live without them.

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Pretzels - nt - new
      #363201 - 01/28/11 09:15 AM
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Thanksies! - nt - new
      #363205 - 01/28/11 11:28 AM
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