week on the diet, no progression
#362823 - 01/09/11 01:03 PM
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mavera
Reged: 12/28/10
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Hello!
I've been on the diet now for a week.
First few days of just white bread, pasta, rice, ricemilk and semolina.
After that I slowly added chicken, then banana, yesterday mango and yam, and today carrot and eggwhite..
I don't feel better, still have much symptoms.
My constipation got better, I lowered my laxatives, but I can do that more often. When C changes to more D-like I get other symptoms. I also do have these D-like symptoms now...
Yesterday I quitted the laxatives, but today it seems I'm constipated again..  The gastric pain is not less than usual.
So my symptoms are not really worse, but also absolutely not improved.
What to do with the diet?
Stick to only safe food for a while (a week or so?) or can I start adding some insoluble fiber already?
I'm not really sure what to look for, symptom-wise. My symptoms normally change from period to period..
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PI-IBS-C/A nausea & very bad gastric pain
meds: lansoprazol+macrogol
started EFI +FODMAPs 1/2011. 'Relapse' for 8 months. Now partly back on track again with the diet..
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I'd recommend going without wheat/flour products such as bread and pasta for a bit. wheat issues are somewhat common.
its slow and annoying, but you may need to try a few different restrictive diets to find what works for you.
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So what should I eat then? Just banana and carrot?!!
I've been on a diet w/o complex carbs for 1,5 week. Even felt much worse and dropt 5 pounds (allready a bit underweight).
I ate just veggies and chicken/fish and some fruit then. Not doing that again!
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meds: lansoprazol+macrogol
started EFI +FODMAPs 1/2011. 'Relapse' for 8 months. Now partly back on track again with the diet..
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Even though those foods are safe on the EFI diet, they may not be for you. It is taking me years to figure out what I can actually eat. I discovered that I can not have rice milk,and also I am allergic to egg whites. You have to be careful with bananas, especially if they are too ripe, and mangoes have excess fructose which can cause problems too. If you are eating alot of white bread, pasta, and semolina.. that is alot of fructans which may be causing pain too if you have trouble absorbing excess fructose and fructans.
I think once you start feeling better, you will be able to eat more things without trouble. good luc:)
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depending upon the problem, it can take a couple of weeks to see improvement.
personally, the FODMAP diet was my start to improvement.
yes, restricting your diet sucks but so does being sick. i think there's probably a considerable number of people with IBS who really have food allergies / intolerances. the only way to be certain is to eliminate these foods from your diet. also, it can be more than one.
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Thanx for your answers.
I'm not really sure what to do next. Eat just rice for a few days; if that doesn't work try potatoes? Is there some sort of a guideline to figure this out?
I don't have bloating or excessive gas. Just mostly gastric pain and nausea/sickness from bowelmovements.
Can I assume now the EFI diet doesn't work for me?
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meds: lansoprazol+macrogol
started EFI +FODMAPs 1/2011. 'Relapse' for 8 months. Now partly back on track again with the diet..
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If you are IBS-C it can take several weeks or longer to stablise on the EFI diet. It might not be wise to not add too much IF to your diet just yet particularly don't add whole grain cereal products or any raw veggies.
Did you peel the carrots and boil until soft?
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Ok thanx, so just hold on for a while..
I'll try to eat more rice and corn intead of wheat then..  (hate rice) Maybe oatmeal(that's not wheat right?)
Yes, I boiled them soft. But the carrots were only yesterday.
I also don't use the dietary fiber yet, because I can only get metamucil with artificial sweeteners here (netherlands). I tried them a few months ago and it worsened my symptoms (but perhaps I need to slowly build up).
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meds: lansoprazol+macrogol
started EFI +FODMAPs 1/2011. 'Relapse' for 8 months. Now partly back on track again with the diet..
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Some people have trouble with cornmeal however give it a try and see how it goes. Oatmeal is not wheat. I have regular oatmeal for breakfast every morning with 1/2 banana. Careful of instant oatmeal because it can contain additives.
I believe Benefiber made with guar gum and no sweetener is available in the Netherlands. If you find some check the ingredients because they use different ingredients in different countries. In Canada they use inulin which is not IBS friendly while in the US & UK they use wheat dextrin which is IBS friendly. You might also ask your pharmacist about products that contain calcium polycarbophil. It is a synethetic soluble fiber that has been used successfully by some individuals with IBS.
It is a good idea to slowly increase soluble fiber supplements.
Keep us posted on your progress.
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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
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If you have been taking laxatives it will be a tougher transition I am afraid. Also I am not sure how much D you have since you mentioned that. Once off laxatives that might stop entirely. A good SFS will help even that stuff out.
Only you can tell when to add IF safely. If you don't feel affects of it like spasms and pain then go ahead and start mixing it in.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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BTW
#362853 - 01/10/11 06:17 PM
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Don't listen to people with extra ideas on what to do other than the EFI diet. Try it first as is before worrying about wheat or fructose or these extra things. I stabilized (nearly 7 years ago) on the diet as is even with soy and inulin and fructose and wheat.
There are few here now that have been posting for a long time so be cautious in what you believe.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Re: BTW
#362873 - 01/12/11 01:41 AM
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mavera
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Thanx!
It's indeed pretty confusing when you already trying a hard diet  I don't really think my IBS is caused by allergies or intolerances.
I do have very heavy peanut allergy and also to beans and soy in a lesser attempt, so I know what that feels like. During pregnancy I had ao lactose/dairy intolerance, with very discomforting bloating; disappeared completely after pregnancy (?) Also cut out all dairy for 2 weeks before, but didn't help for my symptoms now.
I know different allergies/intolerances can cause different symptoms, but my symptoms now don't really indicate intolerances I guess. I don't have bloating/gas and no real D. My nausea is totally associated with gut-movements or when I'm constipated. To me, it really seems I 'just' have pretty bad visceral hypersensitivity. (also going to try hypnotherapy in a few weeks)
But I've been reading about the FODMAP diet, and decited to try. Even though I don't think that's going to help me, I read that most people notice relief in the first week.
So I'll eat no wheat, just banana and some FODMAP/EFI-save veggies for 1 week. If it doesn't give me any relief, I'll assume I don't have intolerance/malabsorptions problems.
I've done electro-accupuncture testing and this docter told me I should cut out sugar (sucrose) and honey... Although I also didn't notice any relief while avoiding this, it's one of the reasons I'm trying to avoid the FODMAPs etc for 1 week.
I'm using stool softeners (forlax/macrogol), they should not be 'addictive', I don't need more of them over time (6 months now ).
I indeed found the benefiber Syl suggested and ordered it. Hopefully I can slowly switch off the stoolsofters (it also contains a sweetener; sodium-saccharinate?).
I don't have real D, just very soft stools every now en then, mostly from taking too much laxative (what I need changes) or some infection.
My IBS started post-infectious, the first 3 months I did have very soft and frequent (3x daily) BM, but after another stomach-flu it suddenly changed to IBS-C.
Anyway, still no progression in symptoms
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meds: lansoprazol+macrogol
started EFI +FODMAPs 1/2011. 'Relapse' for 8 months. Now partly back on track again with the diet..
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