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Re: Fiber is not relieving my constipation / gastrocolic reflex new
      #361718 - 10/27/10 11:14 AM
kem

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FYI, my daughter had triggering w/ gastrocolic reflex constantly for a while. (That was horrible!) Simplifying the diet, a la EFI, did calm it down VERY gradually. ITMT, she did the kids' version of the hypno and that seemed to help w/all her symptoms across the board. She's in the middle of a second round on the hypno program and continuing to improve. Haven't had the gastrocolic reflex thing in many months now and is able to eat some foods that were triggering in those bad old days (like in the summer!).
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Re: Fiber is not relieving my constipation / gastrocolic reflex new
      #361719 - 10/27/10 11:29 AM
Syl

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Indeed there are published reports that hypno works excellent for children and teenagers. The reports for adults are good too but not as good as for children/teenagers from the research I have read. Glad to hear your daughter is doing so well.


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Re: gastrocolic reflex / hypno new
      #361724 - 10/27/10 02:46 PM
kem

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Thanks and yay!

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The reports for adults are good too but not as good as for children/teenagers from the research I have read.



Yes. Interesting that *even for adults* the research still indicates a vastly better response to the hypno than has been shown to any of the drugs currently prescribed for IBS . . . And my daughter's GI doc, for one, had never heard of hypno for IBS . . . messed up, messed up. A huge thank you to everyone here for spreading the word - this site is where I first heard of it!
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Re: gastrocolic reflex / hypno new
      #361726 - 10/28/10 05:06 AM
gas_tank

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Thanks Kem for your input. Glad to hear it works for your daughter. I will look further into the hypnotherapy and see if it helps.

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Re: Fiber is not relieving my constipation - Syl? new
      #361727 - 10/28/10 05:07 AM
gas_tank

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Interesting. Did you do anything else other than eliminate the triggers to get it to ease up?

Thanks

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Re: Fiber is not relieving my constipation / gastrocolic reflex new
      #361732 - 10/28/10 02:08 PM
CellSalts_Work

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Apparently we are most susceptible to hypnosis at the age of 12.



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Re: gastrocolic reflex / hypno new
      #361733 - 10/28/10 02:13 PM
CellSalts_Work

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If you'll send a blank email to safo1611@gmail.com I then can send you a pdf file on hypnosis that may prove helpful. Just attended a course on stress relieving and self-hypnosis and there is a section there specifically on how to relieve IBS symptoms.

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Re: gastrocolic reflex / hypno new
      #361734 - 10/28/10 02:29 PM
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If the section on self-hypnosis for IBS isn't too long can you posted here for all to see? Maybe in a new thread


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Re: gastrocolic reflex / hypno new
      #361736 - 10/28/10 04:49 PM
Marilyn

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Hypnotherapy is not a cure, but for quite a few people it has been found to be extremely helpful - some folks have found it to be helpful as an adjunct to other treatments; many many others have found that it is the one thing that helped when all else failed.

Interesting to note - The IBS Audio Program which is the Adult and Teen Program, was exhibiteded at the IFFGD in 2005. This protocol was developed because the author, Michael Mahoney, was seeing patients with IBS back in 1991 who were not seeing the improvement they needed with conventional care. Dr. Whorwell was the 'father' of hypnosis for IBS, with his first published research done in 1984 in the Lancet. This protocol has been fine tuned over the years and is available only through an MD referral in hospitals or by therapists who are trained in it.

Michael's protocol was independently developed and fine-tuned over the years - and has shown a great deal of efficacy. Because patients initially were too ill with IBS to travel to his practice, he sent it to them on tape - this is how the program eventually became available to the public.

Never has it ever been touted as a cure - however there are INDEPENDENT articles referring to this process as a possible cure.

However, any hypnotherapy protocol for IBS needs to be gut-specific (as Mike's is) or gut-directed in order to be the most helpful.

Since Mike's program has been available to the public since 1998, there is quite a bit of independent review on it, and the positive reports are in the vast vast majority.

Adults CAN and do respond to hypnotherapy if it is properly done, and the protocol has been proven effective. Children may be more open to guided imagery initially because they have less experience researching as adults do. But this in no way takes away from the fact that gut-specific hypnotherapy is very effective with adults.

There have been at least 50 research studies showing its efficacy; yet gastroenterologists and physicians are unaware of this research because it is not widely taught as part of the treatment protocol, unless the physician is a part of a teaching/university hospital - then they are more aware of the research.

I have compiled some other research studies,

http://www.helpforibs.com/messageboards/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hypnotherapy&Number=361735&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=

as well as info on the research study results for IBS Audio Program.

http://www.helpforibs.com/shop/books/hypnoibs.asp



Look here -

http://www.helpforibs.com/messageboards/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=hypnotherapy&Number=279867&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=

and scroll down for 'success' comments from Constipation and Alternating users.

If you have specific questions regarding the program you can also call 877-898-2539 for information.

You can read about my journey below.

I have had the honor to speak with hundreds of IBS patients over the years, and there are a lot of common threads that we share as patients. But there is hope, no matter what way forward that you need to go - I did this as a very last resort, and so have most of the people I have talked to, and most of Michael's patients as well.

By the time most people try this method, they are already burnt out, frustrated and have had years and years of failure and added symptoms - if you recall back to before you had IBS, and then the first few episodes, you were optimistic in going to the doc and getting "it" taken care of; fast forward to years of meds, diets, supplements, etc not helping you, and you are adding the anxiety, depression, and all the rest of it on top of the gut symptoms.

Most youngsters havent had IBS as long, so they are not imprinted with as much as an adult who has had it for years.

There is hope... do feel free to ask me - and since this is the Eating board, we can have a thread over in the proper hypno forum if you wish as well.

All the best in your journey to feeling better, no matter how you take that journey...

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good luck w/it and w/everything! - nt new
      #361740 - 10/28/10 08:20 PM
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