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What do you eat on a bad day?
      #360472 - 08/20/10 03:34 PM
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I'm bloated and nothing is moving today. So what do I eat on days like this? I'm guessing no IF but do I want to add SF or just stick with what I have been doing and let it straighten itself out? I'm sure I"ll be ok tomorrow. And no I did not eat something bad, maybe just too much SF last night in the way of oat cereal.

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      #360474 - 08/21/10 06:34 AM
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people are going to pounce on me for this, but I had the exact same problem a couple of days ago. I was foolish enough to eat celery and probably too much so all stopped working for two days and it was total deadlock. I hate IS fibre when it does this. Was feeling awful. The only thing that works in such a situation for me is milk. Best is warm/hot tea with milk. It just moves my bowels... (I can drink milk with any sort of tea and as I have insomnia, it's decaffeinated tea that I go for.)

I know milk's against the rules, but for people like us who have constipation, your bowels moving vigorously can be a blessing. I never eat dairy products except in emergencies like this.

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      #360484 - 08/21/10 08:00 AM
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Hmmm - are you using the laxative effect of lactose intolerance or diary protein intolerance to induce BMs? Probably not the best IBS symptom management strategy.

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Chicken breast, white rice and boiled peeled carrots -nt- new
      #360485 - 08/21/10 08:01 AM
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      #360486 - 08/21/10 09:01 AM
CellSalts_Work

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definitely not and I know it's a vice! But I don't think I'm lactose intolerant. (that said have not had tests done recently) (but I am taking these cell salts, see my user name and they do contain minute doses of lactose and they never have an adverse effect on me and actually help a lot with all sorts of ailments?!)

I can't explain it but a little milk (never on its own though) has often served to oil things as it were. No other milk product has this effect and they would usually exacerbate the constipation. Esp cheese, not so much yoghurt. Milk in 'everything-stops situations' does not cause me diarrhoea btw, it just gets things moving, smoothly.

(any explanation?)

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      #360492 - 08/21/10 10:12 AM
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A cup of milk contains about 12 grams of lactose which is very high compared to the small amount in cell salts. Even individuals with lactose intolerance may be able to tolerate the small amount in supplements and medicines. Hard cheeses are low in lactose but high in fat. Soft cheeses like cottage cheese are high in lactose and lower in fat. Yoghurt is low in lactose because of the fermentation from the probiotic bacteria. Lactose need not cause D - it could have a mild laxative effect in some individuals at lower doses.

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Re: What do you eat on a bad day? new
      #360494 - 08/21/10 10:31 AM
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hmmm... thank you, just replied to another post of yours (partly) concerning this. I 'eat' 4-6g of lactose monohydrate a day through the cell salts.

I am not at all sure which cheese is worst for me, I don't like cheese to be honest, when I rarely had them I would go for something bland, like Swiss cheese. Soft cheese, not at all sure what effect that had on my IBS by comparison.

Red meat has often exacerbated my constipation, I assume that's because of the high fat content, so while it's merely conjecture I think the lactose does have a mild laxative effect on me, irrespective of whether I am lactose-intolerant, whereas fat makes me more constipated. This is corroborated by the fact that the food that launched my IBS-C in earnest was actually eggs... (with the yolk in there too..))

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      #360510 - 08/23/10 12:21 AM
fairleas

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Rice. Rice. Rice. And when things get really bad, more rice.

White rice seems to be my be-all and end-all when it comes to safe foods. I usually put a little brown sugar on it just to give it a bit of flavor but I've been known to eat it plain. I also sometimes put a little safe margarine on it, but not when I'm having a day when I'm having horrible D. I also sometimes add a bit of baked/grilled chicken breast to it if I start to feel better. It mixes well with the brown sugar.

I can also eat unsweetened, natural applesauce and sometimes a banana.



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Re: What do you eat on a bad day? new
      #360515 - 08/23/10 02:29 AM
CellSalts_Work

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the only thing I wonder about is could this work for someone with constipation? I know how weirdly enough, the same works for D and C when it comes to IBS, but when I have a real bad bout of IBS-C and nothing is moving and everything is terribly clogged up, eating rice has not really helped in getting things moving, and it can be even more bloating?

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Re: What do you eat on a bad day? new
      #360540 - 08/23/10 07:51 PM
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My sympathy for the IBS--you have enough health issues to deal with already. Even though I have the opposite type of IBS, on bad days I would slightly increase my Tummy Fiber intake, spread over three doses during the day, and then start with the BRAT diet (bananas, rice, applesauce, white toast or rolls, and herbal tea), although that my not work for you. I highly recommend the 100-day hypnosis program for IBS. I haven't had a really bad day since May. It works on the subconscious to speed up or slow down gut motility, as needed for your specific condition. I'm not big on alternative medicine, but have revised my attitude to 'I'll try anything that has a good chance of offering improvement'. Everything I've tried on this website has been well worth the money!

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