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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #359994 - 07/28/10 11:16 AM
Allisonmary

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Ok thanks, good to know.
I found this cereal called organic o's. It is made only of oats and rice flour, no corn ingredients. It has 1 gram soluble and 1 gram insoluble per serving. Would you be able to eat something like this. I know it has some insoluble but its better than getting a cereal that has corn right? Im just trying to find some new foods to eat!

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Re: delayed food reactions new
      #359996 - 07/28/10 11:33 AM
shawneric

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IBS is NOT caused by "delayed food reactions", although it may be a trigger via mast cells in the gut that could contribute to pain. Foods problems activate whats called the mast cell in the gut. It releases histimine unto the smooth muslce and contributes to pain in IBS. The same mechanism that stressors activates the mast cells in the gut. But this is only part of a bigger problem in IBS.

Did you read about runners D. Running can impact the gut.

I use to play soccer and was going professional and this happened to me a lot, it wasn't the foods, although eating before or after may play a role in how it felt and contribute. People without IBS can have issues with this and even more so in IBS, because the bowel is overreactive TO ALL STIMULI.

In IBS the colon contracts abnormally.


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Re: corn?? new
      #359999 - 07/28/10 11:38 AM
kem

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Allisonmary just asked: "I know it has some insoluble but its better than getting a cereal that has corn right?"

I'm thinking . . . There are plenty of wonderful organic corn-based cereals that have NO insoluble fiber! Exact names excape me, at the moment, but I'm thinking of things like Crispix and Corn Chex-like stuff, not to mention polenta, which I can imagine might actually be comforting for some IBS folks (though we haven't tried it). Isn't this so?
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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #360001 - 07/28/10 12:27 PM
Syl

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Frequently corn flour made from dehulled corn is used in cereal which should be safe. Whole kennel corn is high in IF and best avoided.

Which Health Valley cereal are you referring to?

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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #360010 - 07/29/10 03:39 AM
Allisonmary

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The cereal is called Organic Morning O's.
Im sorry I always thought corn was more insoluble than oats. I would always avoid products with corn on the label. NOw Im confused.
Isn't cornmeal risky?

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Re: delayed food reactions new
      #360011 - 07/29/10 03:46 AM
Allisonmary

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Thanks,
Yes Ive heard of runners D and Ive experienced in after marathons and high intensity races. This is a little bit different though, more like a bad cramp. I think eating before definetely contributes..usually the pain is in my large intestine though so I feel like whatever it is that is bothering me, has already been digested.

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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #360013 - 07/29/10 05:28 AM
Syl

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Corn meal is on the soluble fiber list. And here Heather says Oatmeal, brown rice, and corn meal (polenta) tend to be the best-tolerated whole grains for IBS. I would be careful though because corn meal is still high in IF. I can only eat very small amounts. Kernel corn with the husk on is unsafe. I hope that helps.

Sorry I could find any information on 365 Organic Morning O's on the web. What are the ingredients?


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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #360033 - 07/29/10 07:34 PM
Allisonmary

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Ah no way, brown rice is on the soluble fiber list? I can not have even a bit of that! Im not so sure about the cornmeal though. The ingredients of the organic o cereal are organic whole grain oats, organic rice flour, organic sugar, salt, calcium carbonate, Vitamin E and other vitamins. Is one usually more tolerable than the other, oats or corn?
Would you personally try a cereal like this? I had a handful of it and experienced no pain but I could swear I got a little bloated from that little bit.
Also, I was wondering about bloating. If a food causes you bloating with no pain, is it likely to cause someone with IBS pain later on either the next day or casue loose stools/constipation. In other words, is bloating a sign that the intestines are stressed?

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Re: Brown rice syrup new
      #360040 - 07/30/10 05:20 AM
Syl

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Yea - brown rice is a big no no for me too. Sure, I would give organic o's a try. The ingredients look friendly I believe oats is more tolerable than corn because it has more resistant starch and less IF per unit weight. However, while this is true for cooked oatmeal it is not clear to me that the same is true for cold oat cereals. Bloating is one of the most common complaints of IBS. Not sure if it means the bowel is distressed or if due to miscommunication between the brain and the gut. It could simply be a result of misperceived information from the visceral sensations in the gut. If they knew the answer to that question then they might know the answer to the cause of IBS

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Re: CELIAC? new
      #360056 - 07/31/10 08:17 AM
jason61

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U should get tested...a lot of IBSrs have gluten problems

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