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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? -nt new
      #358466 - 05/06/10 11:33 AM
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Thanks Syl...it has been sent.

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      #358467 - 05/06/10 12:02 PM
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I do hope you find the help that you need. Maybe Syl can provide that for you.

The second thing that I hope is that you will stop wishing cancer upon yourself. Be careful what you wish for. You think IBS is painful, well cancer is something you don't want to deal with.

Good luck with the bodybuilding! I know how much I enjoyed it.



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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? -nt new
      #358468 - 05/06/10 12:02 PM
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The only reason I suggest giving up the body building is the sheer amount of food and protein he is consuming to support the activity. I definitely agree that exercise (including weight training) is beneficial to anyone and there is no reason he needs to give up the physical aspect. The caloric load, however, is what I think needs to be addressed.

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? -nt new
      #358472 - 05/06/10 01:34 PM
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The normal calorie amount for a male his age is about 2500 calories per day. The additional 500 calories is not unreasonable for an individual doing 2-4 hours of heavy weights per day. The caloric load is probably not as important as the total protein intake since protein is digested slowly and tends to decrease GI motility.

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358473 - 05/06/10 01:57 PM
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I don't think the extra 500 calories and/or increased protein ingestion is unreasonable for an individual doing 2-4 hours of heavy lifting per day. I do think it *might* be unreasonable for an individual doing 2-4 hours of heavy lifting per day and ALSO struggling with IBS related constipation and bloating, thus my suggestion to temporarily suspend the lifestyle and find out.



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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358476 - 05/06/10 02:29 PM
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I guess you and I differ on this issue. Any young person with IBS should feel free to persue their physical activity interests aggressively and without interuption while focusing on developing dietary, stress and other life style management techniques to minimise IBS symptoms. This approach has worked well for me a few decades - physical activity was never part of the problem - it was always part of the solution

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358477 - 05/06/10 02:39 PM
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I totally appreciate that approach, and in an ideal situation, that may very well work. He's been complaining for weeks though that he wishes he had cancer and is not enjoying his life. If I were at the end of my rope as he appears to be, I just think I would entertain making some actual CHANGES in my lifestyle, not just complaining about it and wondering why I still feel awful when I haven't tried absolutely EVERYTHING I can think of to get to the root of the problem. Obviously exercise is important, but if the type of exercise/pastime you are doing is possibly making you sicker, wouldn't you explore life without it for a while?

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358478 - 05/06/10 03:18 PM
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Quote:

Obviously exercise is important, but if the type of exercise/pastime you are doing is possibly making you sicker, wouldn't you explore life without it for a while?




This is EXACTLY the point that I was trying to make.
The man sounds desperate to try anything to feel better but is consumed by the food element of things.
And we all know that food is not the only issue at play here.

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358479 - 05/06/10 03:59 PM
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I am wondering though, Bel, if taking away a passion of his would not create more stress and thus more IBS related mental/emotional symptoms, which would then manifest in the body. Kind of like taking the "runner's high" away from a runner. What do you think?

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Re: don't you like fruit as a snack? new
      #358480 - 05/06/10 04:17 PM
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It doesn't seem like he's enjoying it at the moment anyway because he feels so ill, so I don't think so. Only he really knows the answer to that.

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