tips,tricks,and supplements?
#355029 - 01/30/10 08:38 AM
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ok,so I am noticing a pattern. I find pieces of carrots,mushrooms,and rolled oats in my stool,the mushrooms are undigested and the oats are clumpy. Are these foods similar? I don't have malapsorbtion,I am quite healthy and don't feel I'm not getting all my nutrients and such,the only thing wrong is very unstable ibs,and I am working hard and am very determined to get better,haven't been eating any "no no" foods for like 5 days now and am continuing this.
I really think I need to get rid of the pepermint capsules,I take them as directed but still end up burping them up and having acid come up my throat. Would cammomile capsules be a good substitute? I can't drink cammomile tea,it makes my waste smell so bad I want to vomit. I did try regimint,but it makes my problems worse,probly because I am ibs d.Perhaps fish oil capsules would help with incomplete evacuation? I can't afford to have d though.
Anyone know of any helpful foods for incomplete evacuation? would flax in smoothies help? or are ther any combinations or tricks,such as drinking hot water on am empty stomach first thing in the morning? how about baking soda in water? I found a whole post about tricks if your constipated,many aren't ibs safe,but some of them may be..perhaps some are gentle enough for a little IE but won't cause d? http://boards.webmd.com/webx?THDX@@.89b6f0e6!thdchild=.89b6f0e6
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Obviously Benefiber isn't doing you much good. Maybe you should try switching to acacia.
Try not to overthink eating... that might just be counterproductive.
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it seems to not matter which fiber I take,none of them are helping right now. well week after week I see the same pattern with those foods...are you still taking catalyst u? I do take acacia.
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I find pieces of carrots,mushrooms,and rolled oats in my stool,the mushrooms
This is not uncommon. It is partly related to how well you chew your food and to the fact these foods contain insoluble fiber particularly mushrooms. Also, the rolled oats sound like they may not be cooked enough.
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what can I do about this? I cook the oatmeal well in the microwave for 2 or 3 minutes with soy milk. I chew my food well..I think this is making my stools not well formed,lumpy,and mushy..what do you think about cammomile capsules instead of pepermint?
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If the carrots and mushrooms were well cooked and chewed well you won't be able to see the pieces  Is the oatmeal instant or regular. Regular oatmeal needs to be boiled for 8-10 mins usually in water. If it is instant which instant oatmeal are you using?
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welll the mushrooms were cut into tiny pieces and I did chew them. Could I just have an intolerance? It just says rolled oats all natural,great value from wal mart.
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Mushrooms are mostly insoluble fiber and yes they are difficult to chew. I cannot eat mushrooms at all they give me D. There is no such thing as mushroom intolerance What are the cooking instructions on the Walmart rolled oats package?
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ok I will see about staying away from mushrooms. I will look at the package later. Can we talk about supplements now? I think I should get rid of pepermint capsules,I take them as directed on bottle but stil end up burping up the taste or have acid come up,I just feel acidic. What about cammomile capsules? I also want to try slippery elm bark and make tea,what about marshmellow root?
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If peppermint caps give problems don't take them. I am not the person to ask about supplements. I don't take any. Generally speaking I found that many of them cause more problems than they solve.
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I'm really trying to break the cycle of irritating my ibs,changing my diet,and going to try to get this acid reflux or acidic bile problem by first starting to modify diet and supplements. I really think me having to use my finger with the incomplete evacuation to get realife,I mean I HAVE to or it doesn't come out and just irrtates and makes me feel more ill. What if I bought gloves instead of just washing my hands really well wish soap and water? which kind of gloves are best? I really think once I critque everything and get the diet,using finger,acid problems alot better I will see great improvemnt.
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when i have incomplete evacuation i have used a suppository...can't spell that..but it worked great and it also made me have even more BM which seemed to make me feel empty...u should try those at times...not often but when it's really a problem....
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will this make my stuff more mushy than it already is or irritate my really irrtated colon? I have hemmorids close to the opening..and possibly more internal ones.
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aperson, you really need to see a doctor and find out exactly what you have and what you do not have. Many on these boards have suggested this over a long time, and many have told you that you can see a doctor for free through your state social services department.
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Edited by Heather (02/01/10 11:18 AM)
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no it will just make it come out which is what u want...it beats straining only for nothing to come out which gives u the hemies..
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everyone,I have seen a doctor and had tests to rule out ibs,i have not given the diet a fair try as I'm just beggining,I have given up all no no foods for about 5 days now. I am working on breaking the cycle or irrtants,acid reflux,so I am giving up the pepermint capsules,I take as directed but I just continue to burp them up or have acidic problems,I am doing some research to see if I can replace with cammomile capsules,anise and other ibs safe herbs.
I really feel I need to give a water filter a good try,also clear up hemmorids and the incomplete evacuation,which I'm sure having to use my finger doesn't help,Its a continuous cycle of irrtants and I am willing to try many things I can do at home and critique it.
Today I started to keep a bottle of dasani water by the toilet so each time I use my finger I put the water on it then after using tp I clean my finger off with the water before inserting again,as many times as I need before nothing is stuck irritating me. I'm not sure but I think that is helping.
I am also willing to try caltrate,look into and try kegal exercies (perhaps I need to strengthen my muscles for good bm's?) buy a heating pad,try other things like anise oil dropped into water,and willing to buy some medical gloves for a while for the incomplete evacuation...The problem is I don't have the money right now. a $300 hospital bill and owe my dad nearly $100 and have $40 phone bill,thats a paycheck and a half worth for me which will take me monthes to pay off.
oh yea,I am also willing to try a combination of all things,I will even look into aromatherapy.
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u won't need the water bottle if u buy some suppositorys..they are like 2 bucks...and more gentle than ur finger would be.
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Does this mean that you HAVE seen a doctor recently and been diagnosed with IBS plus hemorrhoids? Last we heard you had was a barium enema, which a very antiquated test which is not current testing for IBS, hemorroids, etc. This is very confusing based on your posts.
How may we help you in some meaninful way?
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A second opinion from another doctor might be a good idea. You are apparently having problems with digestion, i.e. a disgestive disorder that you are not able to control with simple supplements and food choices. A nutritionist might also be able to help you. Check with your local hospital dietician for starters.
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hello everyone. I have in several posts stated I have been to the doctor and had tests done. I have had a barium enema,x rays several times,and blood work done several times.
This was when I was still in high school and was covered under my dad's really good insurance. I have never have been diagnosed with hemmorids,but I said that I could feel them inside and it also feels like I have symptoms..I think its a good idea to clean them up wether the only hemmorids I have are the ones I feel inside and or if there are more in places I can't feel.
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You would really do well having a colonoscopy, and then you would know for sure if you have IBS and/or hemorrhoids. Using your finger is no doubt aggravating everything. I would suggest that you not probe with your fingers in an attempt to self-diagnose and/or alleviate your symptoms. You could actually do damage and/or make things worse.
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everyone. The reason I HAVE to use my finger,If I don't use my finger It stays stuck in there and irritates me all day and makes me feel ill. The bm's stuck behind the piece I let stay stuck in my side if I don't use my finger, don't come out then if I go to work I just want to cry I feel so sick. I'm going to try a better way such as buying gloves and distilled water. HOpefully then I will break the cycle of irritation where my incomplete evacuation gets better. I think many ppl know when they have hemmoirds and self treat it.
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Not a good idea
#355084 - 01/31/10 08:28 AM
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Using your finger is not healthy! You can cause yourself damage!
You must see a doctor and get advice on how to handle your GI problems correctly.
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external hemmoroids are easily treated by a proctologist nowadays. they use very tiny rubber bands and wrap them around the individual hemmoroids to choke them to fall off into the bowl. i had this done in the doctors office. it worked great. internal ones cannot be handled in this way.
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what do you mean? If I am careful what could I possibly do my finger is small...I mean ppl get stools largert than their finger. someone told me,forgot who but its ok and for ppl with ibs and ppl in wheelchairs and their doctor said it won't cause damage.
maybe I should try suppositorys for a while. What is the most gentle? if my stool is mushy and gets stuck inside does it just force it out?
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Inregards to your bum,It is designed for things to come out...not go in.
You may scratch yourself which could lead to infection and other possible injuries .
I could understand if this only happens once in a while but I see it happens alot.You should think about something else to do.
You said you have one stuck then behind that it is fine?
That kinda sounds like IBS-A to I think....jump in anyone if I am wrong.
It sounds like you are a little constipated followed by d.You could always try a suppository to soften the stool at the end and make it easier to come out.
HTH bit
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aperson, you really DO need to see a medical doctor. No insurance is no excuse, as people in your financial position can apply for free medical care in your state (North Dakota). It's up to you to take the initiative through your local Social Services Department. Do you want to get well and get on with a more meaningful life?
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well the first stools,my first bm after I wak up are not hard but are usually a good consistency and come out fine,its because what is left in me before I go to work comes down and out in the morning after I wake up and I think that causes it to harden more cause it stayed in ther all night. Then I can go then some comes out then the rest is stuck it can be any consistency usually softer or mushy and almost d that gets stuck in there. if I don't get it out it stays stuck and irritates. After I get it out, I go sit back down and relax then I get the urge and go to the bathroom some comes out while some gets stuck. If I don't pull the stuck stuff out I start to feel just awful and worse. If I soften the stool more after my first bm in the morning..then I will have D or get more mushy stuff in me and not get solid good bm's. I don't want to take the change of not well formed bm's for several days if I use a suppository. What do you think about flaxseed or flax oil can that help?
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aperson, again you really DO need to see a doctor for proper testing and diagnoses of whatever is wrong. From there you can begin to feel better by focusing on what you really need to help the symptoms of what you actually have been properly and appropriately diagnosed with medically.
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I agree with Windchimes. This is becoming a pattern... long threads in which it seems like the best answer is to get yourself to a doctor, aperson. I know you have seen them and had tests when you were in high school... but it's been awhile since then, and barium enemas, x-rays, and blood tests aren't exactly the best tests to diagnose IBS, and it sounds like you really need the one-on-one with an expert of how to individually treat YOU.
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If you don't like the thread, then don't read it.
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Amen!
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ok am not good at giveing advice just about give myself it but i will say that i have used my finger once and yes i thought it was only way so i didnt have to use laxitives but yes as syl say not good for you and unhealthy profresser whorewwl say use suppourts do no harm at al cos not but in your body and also so laxablel that am on a laitives is a laxitve thats cant cause any harm i think aperson you should start haveing a mild laxitive or prune juice figs better thank useing you fingers i would defoe go for another gi docter that can help you
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My understanding (from a gastro) is that ibs-d is having more than 3 bms in a day and ibs-c is having no bms in a day for one or more consecutive days. does anyone have different definitions than this?
does iba-a consist of alternating periods of ibs-d and ibs-c as described above?
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She may need medical attention, but she does not need critical, judgmental posts like that.
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This post started off as fair questions, and then it went back to the same thing that gets posted and re-posted again and again. I believe if something is not working for us, then we need to try something else, including seeing a doctor. When we keep doing the same thing over and over again, we cannot expect different results (progress).
You seem to be doing well and I do enjoy reading your posts.
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I do agree with that; to get different results you have to do something different.
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