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Microwaving
      #354433 - 01/12/10 05:13 AM
Allisonmary

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I heard that microwaving water for tea and food can cause an IBS attack. I use the microwave a real lot, i try not to but its really hard because I am always rushing around. I know the microwave is not good in that it takes the nutrients away from the food, but have any of you noticed it causes stomach pain? I sometimes heat my water in the microwave for tea and sometimes I dont feel well after and not sure why. It may just be because of something I ate earlier, im not sure. Just wondering if any of you noticed this. I feel like it is very hard for me to stop using the microwave and since I have been told this, it just increases my anxiety and makes me feel like there is no way I can do this whole diet thing. Thank youu.

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Re: Microwaving new
      #354434 - 01/12/10 05:28 AM
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The only thing microwaving does is cause water molecules to vibrate and this agitation produces heat which in turn heats the food.

There is a lot of misinformation on the web about microwaves. Here is a link to a more complete discussion. And here is a full discussion by the FDA who regulate microwaves in the US. It is always best to check with a reliable source that has the knowledge to evalute such technologies.

There is no reason that microwaving food will have any effect on IBS.

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Re: Microwaving new
      #354470 - 01/13/10 08:48 AM
DanaDivine

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http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/cook4.php

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Re: Microwaving new
      #354471 - 01/13/10 09:29 AM
shawneric

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I would be very careful about the information from that website.

I have been a chef for over 25 years.

There is no reason cooking in a microwave would cause an IBS attack, other then the food not being cook to temperture and food poisoning or something.

A lot of different cooking methods may result in loss of nutrients of foods. But that wouldn't set off IBS either. Foods also are not the cause of IBS but triggers to the underlying disorder.

The anxiety could trigger an attack.

Hot water and tea on an empty stomch could ba problem. Some IBSers are even sensitive to hot and cold water.


There are some people out there that are kindof against microwaves in general. But they are use a lot, not just the ovens, but phones and transmission. Being bombarded by microwaves isn't such a good thing really.

Microwave Oven Radiation

http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingProducts/ResourcesforYouRadiationEmittingProducts/Consumers/ucm142616.htm


http://www.fsis.usda.gov/Fact_Sheets/Cooking_Safely_in_the_Microwave/index.asp

I would be really careful about some of the information on the site dana posted, there is some inaccurate information on that site.




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      #354472 - 01/13/10 09:35 AM
Gerikat

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Thanks Dana for the link. I do not own a microwave and never have. I was also just turned on to this website by Carolyn. I am still reading through all of the info.

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      #354473 - 01/13/10 09:38 AM
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This web site and many others contain the claim "There was a lawsuit in 1991 in Oklahoma. A woman named Norma Levitt had hip surgery, but was killed by a simple blood transfusion when a nurse "warmed the blood for the transfusion in a microwave oven!" This claim is false. In fact Norma Levitt was killed by a blood clot, not by blood heated in a microwave. Check the judgement for Warner v. Hillcrest Medical Center. The information on this web is questionable at best.


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Re: Microwaving new
      #354481 - 01/13/10 10:47 AM
shawneric

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There is all kinds of bad information on that site. Wow



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      #354486 - 01/13/10 10:58 AM
shawneric

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FYI

Australasian Society of Clinical Immunology and Allergy

While our ability to accurately diagnose and treat allergic disease has benefited from scientific understanding of what happens during an allergic reaction, a number of tests and treatments have been promoted in the absence of any scientific rationale. Some non-conventional approaches to disease also claim that various disorders unrelated to allergy have an immune basis. These tests and treatments have been shown to be unreliable when subjected to careful study. ASCIA advises against use of these tests for diagnosis or to guide medical treatment.

Unorthodox Techniques for the Diagnosis and Treatment of Allergy, Asthma and Immune Disorders

http://www.allergy.org.au/content/view/322/271/


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shawneric started my food diary new
      #354487 - 01/13/10 11:00 AM

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pretty detailed. One thing I've seen a pattern if I eat soon before bed. The food I ate is in the stool I have when I wake up in the morning. There are days before that should come out.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354495 - 01/13/10 04:04 PM
shawneric

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make usre its foods and your moods and feelings.

I wouldn't eat to soon before you go to bed anyway as that is not a good thing.

This is also one reason why you want to find a good doctor.
If your not absorbing food right or digesting them right that is really important. For one it can cause malnutrition.

IBSers digest food normally.



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      #354496 - 01/13/10 04:07 PM
Little Minnie

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My mom claims more tummy problems from crock pots, gas stoves and certain cookware. I don't know about that.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354508 - 01/13/10 08:59 PM

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It's hard to associate a food with a mood because less than an hour I wake up in the morning the bathroom problems start. I can say I feel tired and crabby even though I woke up feeling rested.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354510 - 01/13/10 09:33 PM
shawneric

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aperson, did you watch the vidoe I posted from DFr Drossman?

You should atchg that.

You don't have toassociate foods and moods, both are seperate, just how you feel each day or at times of the day.

Mornings can be bad for IBSers because of the chemical cortisol, which is a stress chemical, but also used to wkae up your digestion in the mornings.

When you wake up how soon do you think about your gut?



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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354522 - 01/14/10 07:53 AM

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I don't really think about my gut when I'm waking up, I just go to make my tea as soon as I get out of bed because I feel so full of gas and uncomfortable.

I'd say soon after getting up because it acts up right away. While I notice it,I am more relaxed for a while. I'd say within 15minutes of getting out of bed my ibs is full blown acting up with gas and uncomfortable, then soon the bathroom problems start I feel crappy all day.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354526 - 01/14/10 09:57 AM
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Part of the vicious cycle.

symptoms-anxiety-symtoms

Do you do anything to counter anxiety?



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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354555 - 01/14/10 04:49 PM

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I'm so sorry. Today I feel not only did I let myself down,I feel I let the people who take the time and effort to help me down. I basically started my food diary and stopped. I had alot of stress today. I ate alot of foods I liked that aren't safe,which is lots dairy,fat and redmeat. So I will go find my own way and will let you know when I stay on diet and see improvement.

actually not just today most of this week.

Edited by aperson (01/14/10 04:51 PM)

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354558 - 01/14/10 05:26 PM
Gerikat

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Aperson, we all make mistakes and fall of the wagon,so to speak, but you seem to do it consistently. If you want to be well you need to make a consistent effort. McDonald's junk food is not going to do it for you. That wouldn't even work for someone who does not have IBS. It is just junk, pure and simple.

I am not being mean to you, just pointing out that you seem to do this often. You didn't let us down, you let yourself down. You say you had stress today, well that is the perfect time to really keep track of everything. That in itself, could be one of your anwsers...that stress itself causes you to veer from your path. Things don't always go good for many of us, but you have to continue to make the effort to stick with good food.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354563 - 01/14/10 06:41 PM
shawneric

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Gerikat is right its not us per se but doing things that upset your gut. Stress can be a major factor for symptoms on top of junk food is asking for trouble.

Again I am concerned in that you need a good doctor. Some people can even benefit from psycological help, nt that your crazy or anything, buit they can teach you ways to reduce stress and worry and get your feet back on the ground.

Listen to your body and what it is telling you.

This too is being mean or anything its really important. You can feel better.





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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354587 - 01/14/10 09:50 PM

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don't worry I know mean when I read it on here. I will go find my own way and get back to you so often on any progress or improvements I see.

It will only be through email and not on the boards though,hope you reply when I send emails.

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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354608 - 01/15/10 09:40 AM
shawneric

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aperson, you can still ask me questions here, I would rather do that then my emails, because I get to mnay of those already for other non IBS reasons.


Did you watch the video I posted from Dr Drossman? If not please watch that video.




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Re: shawneric started my food diary new
      #354612 - 01/15/10 10:20 AM

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hi I just emailed you. I didn't know what to do because I wanted to tell you I'd just email you without saying another word. I just really wanted to make my reasons private. Since there are no pm's allowed on this board and anyone can read my post. I just emailed you,I'm sorry.

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