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Re: Little Minnie gave me a clue about sulfur -- thank you Little Minnie! new
      #350380 - 09/28/09 01:44 PM
Gerikat

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Hmmm... How is this a "new twist on IBS management?" We already avoid whole milk, ice cream, mayonnaise, wine and cordials, nuts, cruciferous veggies, red meat, and most of what you list. This is nothing new.

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Re: Egg Whites a trigger? new
      #350383 - 09/28/09 02:15 PM

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when I make a bunch of egg white omelets and mix with a bunch of whole mushrooms(not from cans,that I cut up..I notice I don't feel good..and aren't mushrooms just SF?

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Re: Little Minnie gave me a clue about sulfur -- thank you Little Minnie! new
      #350384 - 09/28/09 02:25 PM
frygurl

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Thanks for the info Syl - this is helpful for me as I've suspected for a while that sulfur bothers my gut.

I wonder if you or anybody else knows...

- Why is there only sulfur in whole milk products, and not skim milk?

- Why is there only sulfur in soy milk and not other soy products?

- Do all nuts contain the same amount of sulfur, or are there some that are more potent than others?

- Don't garlic and onions also contain sulfur, and therefore be avoided if one is staying away from sulfur rich foods?

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It is a new twist new
      #350386 - 09/28/09 02:52 PM
Syl

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The new twist is an understanding of the reasons certain foods are on an avoidance list. Note that soy and egg whites are considered safe on the EFI and well ground nuts with a soluble fiber are okay for some people. These foods are on the avoid list for individuals with ulcerative colitis who are reducing consumption of foods with elemental sulfur or high in sulfur based amino acids.

While the EFI diet and the low sulfur diet for ulcerative colitis have some things in common there are things that are different.

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Re: Little Minnie gave me a clue about sulfur -- thank you Little Minnie! new
      #350387 - 09/28/09 03:07 PM
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You have to be careful interpreting the quote about the diet in my posting.

Don't forget that these studies were done on individuals who have been diagnosed with ulcerative colitis too. Fat and dairy products have been suspect foods that can exacerbate the disease. Many people find the EFI diet useful for managing uclerative colitis. So some of the items on the list are there for reasons other than their sulfur content.

Some of your questions cannot be answered for the reasons given about.

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Re: It is a new twist new
      #350390 - 09/28/09 04:53 PM
Gerikat

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Still don't get the "new twist". Sulfur is and has been a problem for many, IBS or Ulcerative Colitis, or just plain everyday folk without a chronic condition. There's nothing new there.

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Re: Little Minnie gave me a clue about sulfur -- thank you Little Minnie! new
      #350391 - 09/28/09 05:28 PM
Little Minnie

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Your welcome. But it isn't me- sulfur is something we should avoid to some extent or other. I avoid sulfured dried fruits and have been suspicious about the sulfur in wine (I cannot drink wine but am fine with mead). Sulfur in onions and garlic, etc has been an issue for many. And eggs are regarded by non-IBSers as a gassy food at times, from the sulfur.
The amount of sulfur could be increased in produce from a farmer using sulfur to make the soil more acid (lime makes it more alkaline and sulfur more acid). Nothing is proven there I am sure, but I don't use sulfur in my field.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Little Minnie gave me a clue about sulfur -- thank you Little Minnie! new
      #350394 - 09/28/09 05:54 PM
Syl

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Generally you are speaking about elemental sulfur. Reducing the consumption of sulfur containing amino acids is more difficult. The majority of the sulfur we consume comes from the amino acids in proteins. Just like fructose there is little reliable information on the amino acid content of many foods to guide us.

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      #350478 - 09/30/09 06:40 PM
Little Minnie

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So you mean the sulfur in treated dried fruit and so on is different from the sulfur in eggs, onions, garlic etc?

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Does it make a difference if it's organic? new
      #350488 - 10/01/09 06:07 AM
dragonfly

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My husband used to be able to eat turkey too.Now he also has violent reactions to all turkey product.Even just a bite.
We spend a few nights in the hospital with him on IV.

Just this week we saw a bunch of wild turkeys and I wondered the same thing....if it was organic, would he be ok?

He's not sure he wants to find out.

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