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a question for those who bloat...
      #335518 - 09/02/08 11:57 AM
Fen

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Ok. It's 2:55 pm. I'm unfortunately pretty bloated. This is what I've eaten in the past few hours:

11:45 small banana

12:45 2 pieces gf toast with smidge almond butter

2:45 apple (that I cockily ate with the peel on because I was feeling pretty good today)

So what would have caused the bloating? The logical answer would be the apple, but is it really possible to cause bloating in less than 10 minutes?! And if it was the apple, is such a quick reaction more likely from the fructose content or the peel? The peel can't have made it to my small intestine already, can it?

Gah, this is soooooo frustrating!

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335519 - 09/02/08 12:05 PM
Fen

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One more question: Where does everyone's bloating occur. Is it upper abdominal? Lower abdominal?

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335520 - 09/02/08 12:12 PM

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Fen - no matter what I eat or how stable I am I cannot get rid of the bloat. I have no idea why and it drives me crazy. My dad jokingly told me over the weekend that I need a girdle. Har har

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335521 - 09/02/08 12:13 PM

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Honestly, all joking aside - it's my entire tummy that sticks out. I really look at least 6 months pregnant. I HATE IT!

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335523 - 09/02/08 12:29 PM
Fen

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JHuggs, I think I would hit my Dad if he ever said that to me!

That's interesting that your whole stomach area bloats out - my bloat is my lower abdomen only - really more in my pelvic area. Which is so frustrating to me, because I spend all of this time tinkering with my diet to avoid the bloat, but it very well might be due to Endo or my bladder in my case. I'm so fed up with all of this - all of my different doctors blame something else for the bloating and nobody has found the cause! My PT says that I bloat because my pelvic floor muscles are weak, my pelvic pain specialist says I bloat because of IBS, and my GI doctor blames my bladder and says that I "just have to learn to live with it."

I'm interested if anyone else only gets bloated in their low low abdomen.

Thanks!

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335524 - 09/02/08 12:32 PM
dragonfly

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When I bloat it is usually in my lower abdoman.I don't know what to do about it.It usually goes away in a day or so but boy do I feel prego when it happens.
Once in a while my stomach bloats and I get really bad gas so I take tums and start burping.Then my stomach just hurts but the bloat is usually gone.
When you find out what to take LET ME KNOW!!!!!!


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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335528 - 09/02/08 01:10 PM
renee21

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To me, the bloating is caused by different things - not necessarily what food I just ate.

1) Being C. No matter what I've eaten, if I haven't gone enough (or at all) that day, I am going to bloat up - I just get bigger and bigger with each meal. And, conversely, when I do go in a big way (sorry), my tummy is way flatter.

2) Eating a food that is gas-causing. That's somewhat of an individual thing. It doesn't seem like you ate much today (I'd be starving) but for me, the toast would be the culprit since wheat bloats me. But that's just me.

3) Trapped gas still inside me from the day before - i.e. from last night's meal.

4) Swallowing air. If my guts are all spasmed up, even a long conversation with someone can cause me to gulp air. And sometimes if i'm in a ton of crampy pain, i'll keep swallowing unintentionally as a reaction to the pain, causing bloat/gas on top of the cramps. FYI, eating too fast, chewing gum, smoking, slurping hot liquids, drinking out of a straw or water bottle, and of course carbonated bevs are all IBS no-no's for this same reason - swallowed air.

Fun, fun!


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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335538 - 09/02/08 04:07 PM
Fen

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Renee, I ate a breakfast and mid-morning snack as well. I only posted what I had eaten for the previous few hours. And the toast did not contain wheat, it was gluten free. That's not to say that it didn't cause gas, but it was wheat free.

I agree that when I have a big bm, my tummy is much flatter. I go every single day, sometimes twice a day, but I think they're just too small! I'm working up my Acacia dosage, but really nothing seems to help bulk up my stools!

Thanks for the reminder that it could be last night's dinner causing today's problems as well. I know that it can take days to eliminate, but often I forget this and focus on what I've just eaten.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335549 - 09/02/08 07:32 PM
Jenny B

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Ah yes, the pregnant belly, I know all about that one! I sometimes just get bloated in my lower abdomen, but I can get bloated in my entire abdomen area and then I really do look like I'm pregnant, especially for me because I am a really tiny person. Thus, I wear lots of dresses because it helps to disguise the tummy area.

And like many of you have said, my tummy gets flatter after I have a big BM too, I'm glad I'm not the only who experiences that, it makes me feel somewhat normal...

Anyways, some days if I have really bad burping, gas and bloat I will take a ginger pill called Reflux Away. I have mentioned this many times before on the boards, but I never hear if it ever works for anyone else. So, if someone does try it, let me know how it works.

Hang in there everyone, I know gets rough and frustrating, but I hope one day we can all be well.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335554 - 09/02/08 10:55 PM
Zara

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Yeah, I hate bloating! Usually I get bloated in my lower abdomen, but every once in a while my entire stomach bloats up!
I don't really see anything in your diet that would cause it. For me it usually just happens, no matter what I eat .

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335556 - 09/03/08 03:56 AM
Fen

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JennyB, does the Reflux Away just work on gas and belching, or the bloat too? Because I hardly ever belch and I'm not convinced the bloating is from gas, because "passing gas" doesn't usually relieve it either...

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335573 - 09/03/08 09:33 AM
shawneric

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FYI

Excellent info on bloating and distension

Bloating and Distension: Are They One and the Same?

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/568555_3


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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335576 - 09/03/08 10:06 AM
renee21

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Can I look at this article without signing in to Medscape?


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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335594 - 09/03/08 01:19 PM
CarolynC

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It is so comforting to read there are others who share a bloating problem like mine.
Yep....I look pregnant at times. it makes me very upset.
I am thin and it even feels uncomforatble to twist or do sit-ups.
My bloat can be either upper or lower or BOTH! Just depends on what I've eaten. Gasy foods make my lower bloated and sore....then I have gas pains and the rest that goes with it.
when the bloat is upper....I just get this real full feeling, like my guts are pushing on my ribs. I also tend to start burping more. I am short waisted, so when the upper portion is bloated, it is very uncomfortable.

I know it is bad, but I feel better when I skip breakfast. So I have been doing this for years. Just like the others my tummy feels much flatter after a BM. However, does anyone ever feel tight and slightly crampy right after a BM?
I do....and it takes a while to go away. Sort of like the having the BM has irritated my insides. I would love to hear from anyone who has experienced this! Or has some advice to share.

Hope this information was helpful



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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335600 - 09/03/08 01:38 PM
renee21

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Carolyn, I think we share the same tummy. Ditto, upper bloat/burping and lower bloat/gas pain. Ditto, crampy after a BM - basically I am a C, but every time I go, my right-side colon goes into a spasm afterwards, and basically stays that way for the rest of the day. When I can find a happy medium between bloat and spasm, I'll be the first to let you know. In fact I think I will issue a press release!!



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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335606 - 09/03/08 02:21 PM
Jenny B

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Fen, usually the Reflux Away will help decrease the bloat, and I think it usually helps take away some of the slight pain and crampy feelings too. I hope someone else can have some luck with it!

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335641 - 09/04/08 10:28 AM
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Renee21, you should be able too. But if not medscape is free they don't spam you and they have a giant and current IBS resource center that is extremely informative, so its highly worth it.



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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #335658 - 09/04/08 02:40 PM
caitlineb

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I will have to try this Reflux Away you mentioned... I get the whole '5-months prego belly' after almost every meal I eat, no matter what the fiber content is. It sucks!! And it makes me feel super self-conscious. If I only I could let out my gas at work like I do at home!
BTW, I have tried Charco-Caps, Phazyme, Gas-X, and lots of other stuff. I don't think anything really helps except for Imodium, which I do not like to take too often because it clogs me up. Ugh.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354821 - 01/24/10 09:40 AM
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It is interesting (depressing??) to hear that bloating can occur regardless of what you eat. I have occasional bloating after dinner (never, it seems, after other meals)-- pressure, discomfort, and sometimes some mild spasms-- even though I avoid known gas-producing foods and drinks. I'd like to hear from others if they have been able to trace their bloating to specific foods or drinks, or if it just happens regardless. Also, any suggestions for coping when it does occur?

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      #354823 - 01/24/10 10:52 AM
DanaDivine

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Carolyn, I thought coconut oil and eating more in accordance to Bee's plan cured your IBS? I was going to get started on her plan as well pretty soon, but I was hoping it would help my gas and bloating! Yikes! By the way, I meant to email you back soon, sorry, life keeps getting in my way...

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354824 - 01/24/10 10:57 AM
DanaDivine

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I am still in the learning process of what exactly triggers my symptoms, but three things FOR SURE give me gas and bloating: sugar, dairy (although I did not test lactose intolerant), and soy milk.

The two most helpful things for me are fennel capsules and baking soda.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354826 - 01/24/10 11:57 AM
Syl

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Welcome to the board,

Bloating is a sensation of fullness from increased visceral sensation common to IBS. It can be triggered by variety of things including foods, stress or simply the act of eating which stimulates the Gastrocolic Reflex .

One of the goals of Heather's EFI diet (Eating for IBS) is to remove trigger foods which produce IBS symptoms such as bloating.

There is a description of bloating and possible mechanisms in the British Gastroenterology Society's Guidelines on the irritable bowel syndrome: mechanisms and practical management in Section 4.6 on page 1779. Note that is says sufferers typically report a worsening of bloating as the day progresses, particularly after meals, with the symptom usually improving or disappearing overnight. The bloating symptoms you described are common.

All of us are looking for way to manage bloating

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Re: CarolynC new
      #354885 - 01/26/10 09:54 AM
shawneric

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DanaDivine

Candida doesn't cause IBS. That is really bad information on Bee's site about IBS.

Remember IBS is a specific entity, basically of the sigmoid colon.

Gas and bloating are common IBS symptoms.

Part of the problem in IBS are the nerves are hypersensitive in the gut to stimulous and the gas even normal gas creates problems because of transit problems in IBS.

Expert Commentary – Bloating, Distension, and the Irritable Bowel Syndrome


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1681432/?tool=pmcentrez




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      #354886 - 01/26/10 09:58 AM
Gerikat

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Let me know how it goes when you start the diet. I haven't done so yet, but have been in touch with Carolyn. She is doing so well. So, send me a post when you start the diet and when you see improvement.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354887 - 01/26/10 09:59 AM
shawneric

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In IBS the act of eating itself can contribute to bloating.

Which is one reason it can happen ten minutes after eating.

It can also be how many times a day you eat.

Expert Commentary – Bloating, Distension, and the Irritable Bowel Syndrome


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1681432/?tool=pmcentrez



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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354888 - 01/26/10 10:06 AM
shawneric

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Part of the problem in IBS are the gut nerves are hypersensitive to all stimulous. Its called viceral hypersensitivty.

Expert Commentary – Bloating, Distension, and the Irritable Bowel Syndrome


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1681432/?tool=pmcentrez


My own bloating nd distension, which was a big problem most of the 40 years I have had severe IBS, virtually went away with Mike's gut specific hypnotherapy program.

Hypnotherapy has shown to reduce all symptoms of IBS in the majority of people who try it.

This is from a major IBS research center clinil researcher.

Why Consider Hypnosis Treatment for IBS?
by Olafur S. Palsson, Psy.D.


Hypnosis is only one of several approaches to treating irritable bowel syndrome and may not be the most suitable option for all patients (click here for discussion of treatment options for IBS). However, hypnosis treatment has some advantages which makes it an attractive option for many IBS sufferers with chronic and severe symptoms:

- It is one of the most successful treatment approaches for chronic IBS. The response rate to treatment is 80% and better in most published studies to date.

- The treatment often helps individuals who have failed to get improvements with other methods (see for example: Whorwell et al., 1984, 1987; Palsson et al., 1997, 2000).

- It is a uniquely comfortable form of treatment; relaxing, easy and generally enjoyable.

- It utilizes the healing power of the person's own mind, and is generally completely without negative side effects.

- The treatment sometimes results in improvement in other symptoms or problems such as migraine or tension headaches, along with the improvement in IBS symptoms.

- The beneficial effects of the treatment last long after the end of the course of treatment. According to research, individuals who improve from hypnosis treatment for IBS can generally look forward to years of reduced bowel symptoms.

Check out the graph here.

http://www.ibshypnosis.com/IBSresearch.html




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      #354897 - 01/26/10 11:59 AM
renee21

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Why do you state that IBS is an 'entity' of the 'sigmoid colon'? All my symptoms are in the ascending and transverse colon. Entity is also a very confusing word - as if IBS is some type of tangible physical matter, not a syndrome.

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Re: ShawnEric new
      #354899 - 01/26/10 12:52 PM
Syl

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Like you my discomfort is in the ascending and transverse colon. Shawneric said 'basically of the sigmoid colon'. I suspect he means that this is where the discomfort occurs frequently but not always.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354903 - 01/26/10 03:09 PM
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Agreed. It isn't as simple as 'I just ate something that made me bloated'. I can eat the same thing for days and be bloated only some of the days. For me, eating very small amounts and reducing calories, being really active, drinking enough and never siting much give the best chance of not being bloated.
Improper food can trigger reactions in the gut but you don't need to eat something improper to be bloated. You can get bloated from being too hungry too.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Very true in my personal exerience! - nt - new
      #354905 - 01/26/10 03:27 PM
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Re: Dana new
      #354913 - 01/26/10 11:04 PM
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Will do, Gerikat.

Hey, I thought I saw a post of yours somewhere around here about a more open website of FryGurl's called Ning? Can you give me the link? Thanks...

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Re: CarolynC new
      #354914 - 01/26/10 11:10 PM
DanaDivine

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I appreciate the information you always give me, Shawneric, especially when you answered all my questions about what stimulant laxatives may have done to me.

I like to get information from as many different sources as possible... that includes this website, you, *and* places like Bee's website.

I just remembered a question I have for you: okay, two really: one, how many times did you do Michael Mahoney's hypnotherapy program, and two, would you consider yourself symptom-free now?


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Re: afraid of food? new
      #354918 - 01/27/10 06:13 AM
Maurac

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Hello

I have often wondered if "not eating enough" is my problem. I am mostly afraid of food and eat about 1\3 of what I did a year ago.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Maura

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354919 - 01/27/10 06:25 AM
Maurac

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Mine starts at the middle of the rib cage and goes down to between my hips. I look like i am pregnant on some days.

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Re: Carolyn new
      #354920 - 01/27/10 06:29 AM
Maurac

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Hiya!

Yes I sometimes feel tight and crampy after a BM. It depends on how "easy" the BM was. After if I feel like this I do some light stretching..stretching my sides and doing the cobra pose. I find it works sometimes.
Also I try and do deep breathing while I am having my BM. Working with the contractions. Hope this might help you...

Also, how on earth do you exercise...I know I have a TON of anxiety...but I need to start getting active. Any suggestions?
maura

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Edited by Maurac (01/27/10 06:45 AM)

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354921 - 01/27/10 06:37 AM
Maurac

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hee hee...little hint from me...I sit on a blanket at work..tends to muffle the sound.


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Re: foods that bother me... new
      #354922 - 01/27/10 06:40 AM
Maurac

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Hi
Peppers (all colours), beans (all kinds) bother me and give me gas and bloating. I think bran is bad for me as well.

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Re: foods that bother me... new
      #354923 - 01/27/10 06:46 AM
Syl

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It is well known that cereal bran of any kind can exacerbate IBS.

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Re: Dana new
      #354925 - 01/27/10 07:38 AM
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Hey Dana. There is a chat/forum site called Ning. You can have a group there, which is what Frygirl has done. It is by invitation only, so I will contact Frygirl. She will need your email so she can send you the link, since she is the moderator. She has made it an alternative care site, so you can bring up websites like Bees, alternative treatments, or focus on standard treatment. It gives you the best of both worlds.

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Re: Gerikat! new
      #354928 - 01/27/10 09:07 AM
Maurac

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Hi Gerikat

Can anyone become a member. I am very interested.

Thanks
Maura

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Re: Gerikat! new
      #354929 - 01/27/10 09:22 AM
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Sure Maura, do you mind to put your email address in your profile and I will send it to her.

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Re: Gerikat! new
      #354930 - 01/27/10 10:41 AM
Maurac

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OkI think I did what I was suppose to

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Re: ShawnEric new
      #354934 - 01/27/10 11:55 AM
shawneric

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Renee, there are some 28 or so functional bowel disorders that effect different areas of digestive tract. Like upper gi and lower gi and anal rectal disorders.

IBS effects basically the large colon. So that incorporates the transverse ect..


The IBS is a distint enity means it is not what a lot of layman call it, as in any "gi disorder" or calling it a candida infection or food allergy for example. There is a difference between what is called organic diseases or infections and functional disorders. A lot of people think IBS is just a label for "any gi disorder", its not. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

They have found physical problems, including strutural and other issues in almost all IBSers. They just don't know the exact cause/causes yet.

The main problem in IBS effects the funtioning of the large colon. For example this is one reason why there is not malabsorption in IBS and ibsers digest there food normally, because that is done in the small intestines.


IBS is a very real physical problem.

You can feel pain all over because of what is called referral pain and the way the nerves work there. Sometimes you may feel pain on one side, but it can be coming from a different area. Pain in IBS is also kindof specific.

This explains the different functional gi disorders.

http://www.romecriteria.org/rome_III_gastro/


So calling IBS things like food allergies or Candida or infections, is not IBS, but other conditions. Because IBS is its own disorder. Just like say Gerd is its own disorder or an ulcer its own disorder.

IBS has thre issues.

altered motility-the d or c or d/c

viceral hypersensitvity-the pain and discomfort

altered brain gut axis dysfunctioning-The back and forth communication between the digestive system and the brain.


Diagnostic advances: Symptoms and the roles of biological markers in IBS
How is our understanding of IBS changing? Will the way IBS is diagnosed change? An interview with Douglas A. Drossman, MD, Co-Director, UNC Center for Functional GI & Motility Disorders, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC. Dr. Drossman is a clinician, a clinical researcher, and an educator.

http://www.aboutibs.org/site/learning-center/video-corner/causes

Validating the functional GI disorders
Dr. Drossman explains continuing advances that help us understand and visualize these conditions.

http://www.aboutibs.org/site/learning-center/video-corner/causes

So the people calling IBS an infection such as candida is totally wrong and can hurt people's treatments.


You might want to watch this also


Douglas A. Drossman, MD
Co-Director UNC Chapel Hill FGID Douglas A. Drossman MD, Co-Director of Center speaks on Public Broadcasting Station on the Patient-Doctor relationship and IBS

Nationwide airings of PBS Talking About Your GI Health

http://www.med.unc.edu/medicine/fgidc/drossman_gihealth.htm


Drossman is the chairman of the Rome committee to figure out the symtpoms and how to accurately diagnose the functional gi disorders.






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Re: ShawnEric new
      #354935 - 01/27/10 11:59 AM
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This is from 2002

New Recommendations Discussed for Irritable Bowel Syndrome

A key outcome of the evidence-based analysis, according to Brandt, is confirmation that IBS is a "distinct clinical entity and that it is not a specifically psychological disorder."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/443559

Toward a Positive and Comprehensive Diagnosis of Irritable Bowel Syndrome


The Clinical Presentation of IBS
The diagnosis of IBS is determined by certain symptom clusters that "breed true" as a distinct clinical entity. The evidence for and features of these specific symptoms are discussed below.

http://www.ibsgroup.org/other/pnt-mgi7350.ring.html





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Re: CarolynC new
      #354936 - 01/27/10 12:10 PM
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I am just saying there are accurate information websites like the IFFGD and UNC and the reources on this site and my sites and some others.

However be very careful where the information came from and by who, Bee's site is totally inaccurate on IBS for a fact. IBS is NOT a candida overgrowth syndrome Period and its like calling an ucler IBS.


This hinders people from getting the right diagnoses and treatments.

watch this


Douglas A. Drossman, MD
Co-Director UNC Chapel Hill FGID Douglas A. Drossman MD, Co-Director of Center speaks on Public Broadcasting Station on the Patient-Doctor relationship and IBS

Nationwide airings of PBS Talking About Your GI Health

http://www.med.unc.edu/medicine/fgidc/drossman_gihealth.htm


I di Mike's program once, but then self tught myself using his methods and do it everyday, not listening on my own.

However I have worked or helped thousands of people who have done them and some do do it twice to see results.

I improve 85% from them six years ago and some symptoms have completely disappeared for me like bloating and distension and the very severe d I had as well as switching to c sometimes, that has all very much imporved. I still have issues with pain, but not as severe as tit really use to be, but something to note also I developed IBS from a very severe infection in mexico from dysentary and it almost killed me, so the intial reason for mine was really bad and that can make a difference.

If your thinking about them, they are very safe and natural and I highly recommend trying them.

There is also a quite a bit of research on using HT for IBS with very good outcomes. Actually some of the best of any treatments for IBS.



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Re: afraid of food? new
      #354937 - 01/27/10 12:11 PM
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This can happen and does happen a lot. People can develop food phobias.

Eating and then not for long periods of time or not eating enough all add stress to the digestive system and IBS is triggered by stressors both physical and mental.



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      #354940 - 01/27/10 12:49 PM
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OMG Renee, it's alive! In a way, it's funny. Some make IBS sound like an "alien", a living creature. Like you, I prefer not to give it too much power. Words are powerful, so I phrase it as "a situation", not a thing.

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Re: Gerikat! new
      #354941 - 01/27/10 01:04 PM
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Yes, you did and I will pass it on. I believe Jen (Frygirl) wants to have a real time chat sometime this week. It is a matter of coordinating the time to accomodate all the different time zones. That is what's nice about this site...you can post to a forum like here, or just live chat with other folks.

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Re: afraid of food? new
      #354945 - 01/27/10 04:29 PM
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I personally feel better when I eat less calories and lose some weight but others with bloating have problems keeping weight on. Eating often keeps the gut from getting cranky but eating too much overwhelms it.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Dana new
      #354946 - 01/27/10 10:03 PM
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Thanks Gerikat... my email is depechevast@hotmail. Don't know if that's on my profile or not, too lazy to check.

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Re: CarolynC new
      #354947 - 01/27/10 10:07 PM
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That's very encouraging to hear, Shawneric, that you're 85% better. I actually already am right in the middle of the hypnotherapy 100 days. I have to do it at night before I go to sleep, though, and I fall asleep almost right away almost every time... but I read that that doesn't matter.

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Re: a question for those who bloat... new
      #354953 - 01/27/10 11:28 PM
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Quote:

Part of the problem in IBS are the gut nerves are hypersensitive to all stimulous. Its called viceral hypersensitivty.

Expert Commentary – Bloating, Distension, and the Irritable Bowel Syndrome


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1681432/?tool=pmcentrez


My own bloating nd distension, which was a big problem most of the 40 years I have had severe IBS, virtually went away with Mike's gut specific hypnotherapy program.

Hypnotherapy has shown to reduce all symptoms of IBS in the majority of people who try it.

This is from a major IBS research center clinil researcher.

Why Consider Hypnosis Treatment for IBS?
by Olafur S. Palsson, Psy.D.


Hypnosis is only one of several approaches to treating irritable bowel syndrome and may not be the most suitable option for all patients (click here for discussion of treatment options for IBS). However, hypnosis treatment has some advantages which makes it an attractive option for many IBS sufferers with chronic and severe symptoms:

- It is one of the most successful treatment approaches for chronic IBS. The response rate to treatment is 80% and better in most published studies to date.

- The treatment often helps individuals who have failed to get improvements with other methods (see for example: Whorwell et al., 1984, 1987; Palsson et al., 1997, 2000).

- It is a uniquely comfortable form of treatment; relaxing, easy and generally enjoyable.

- It utilizes the healing power of the person's own mind, and is generally completely without negative side effects.

- The treatment sometimes results in improvement in other symptoms or problems such as migraine or tension headaches, along with the improvement in IBS symptoms.

- The beneficial effects of the treatment last long after the end of the course of treatment. According to research, individuals who improve from hypnosis treatment for IBS can generally look forward to years of reduced bowel symptoms.

Check out the graph here.

http://www.ibshypnosis.com/IBSresearch.html







1) Why might hypnosis not be for everyone...what do you mean by it?

2) By hypnosis do you mean using Heather's tapes or seeing somebody?

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Re: Very true in my personal exerience! - nt - new
      #354954 - 01/27/10 11:29 PM
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Why don't people go ahead and list what foods/medicines/anything has been effective in relieving bloating?

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Re: Dana new
      #354956 - 01/28/10 06:42 AM
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Ok Dana, I will send it to Frygirl.

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      #354967 - 01/28/10 10:32 AM
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For me it's not so much about what foods I eat, though I restrict myself to small meals with the IBS diet in mind always. For me, it's more about eating in a relaxed state. I often play some soft instrumental background music that I find relaxing and not necessarily just when I'm eating.

As for gas and bloating, I find Heather's peppermint capsules the very best for alleviating the tendency to bloat and have gas. I suggest that you give these a try. I think you will find yourself very amazed at the difference in the way you feel if you take them as suggested and faithfully every day.

Do you have either/both of Heather's books? If not, then you would do well to buy them. There is a wealth of information in these that will help you learn how to eat for IBS safely.

Sometimes what other people can eat would not necessarily be helpful to another, as each person is so very different in what they can tolerate that another person might not be able to tolerate. Everyone's body is different and there are many contributing factors that vary from person to person.

My best to you...

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Re: For Naturapanic new
      #355000 - 01/28/10 09:58 PM
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I have Heather's book, but I have been skeptical about the Peppermint Capsules.
I mean does those REALLY make a noticable difference?

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Enteric Peppermint Oil new
      #355004 - 01/29/10 04:49 AM
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There are a number of reliable clinical studies that show enteric peppermint oil is effective for managing pain and discomfort. One study showed that it can be as effective as Zelnorm (tegaserod) for some people.

Here are some links to abstracts of clinical studies

Effect of fibre, antispasmodics, and peppermint oil in the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome: systematic review and meta-analysis

The Effect of Enteric-Coated, Delayed-Release Peppermint Oil on Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Peppermint Oil

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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS

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Re: Enteric Peppermint Oil new
      #355190 - 02/02/10 05:53 PM
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Thanks.

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Re: Enteric Peppermint Oil new
      #355191 - 02/02/10 07:18 PM
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If you do not have Heather's two basic books, I really suggest you get copies of those. There is a wealth of information in those which will avoid so much confusion around getting healthier even with IBS. Otherwise, it is likely that you will remain confused and disappointed in your progress.

My best to you!

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