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Zara and Sarah
      #327528 - 03/31/08 09:56 AM
Jordy

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Where are you gals? How are you doing? What are you gals doing? I wonder about you! Hope you have found some answers or diet that you are okay with. You both were "in the dark", as far as gluten, etc. last time I remember.

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327545 - 03/31/08 12:02 PM
welshsarah

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Hi Jordy!

I'm doing much better. I haven't been online for ages because i'm not following the EFI diet at all. I'm just following a strictly gluten free diet - not even eating oats - with minimal dairy (have milk in my tea and coffee and occasional chocolate). It's working well. My constipation is practically non-existant! I'm having BMs daily and not taking any supplements. The only thing i still suffer with is the bloating but it's bareable as it's nowhere near as bad as it used to me. How are things with you??? Hope you're doing ok.

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327560 - 03/31/08 01:51 PM
Erilyn

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Sarah! Glad to hear you've found something that works for you! Yay!!!

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327563 - 03/31/08 02:20 PM
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Thanks me too! I'm seeing a specialist dietitian tomorrow- she's going to look at the foods i've eaten over the last 7 days to try to establish what's causing the bloating so my IBS may get even better... Here's hoping. How's it all going with you? x

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327566 - 03/31/08 02:41 PM
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What are you eating? What EFI foods/principles are you not following? I don't mean to be nosey...just that I have lost all perspective as to how to even do this...other than to eat meat or real fat mayo! Amd of course, not taking an SFS.

It's so good to hear from you...and to hear that you are doing well and have a little more freedom with your diet.

I don't think I can do both EFI and GF anymore..so I have to choose which one to keep and which to experiment with. Both ideas scare me!

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I'm here! new
      #327579 - 03/31/08 05:54 PM
Zara

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Hi there !

Sarah, I'm so glad you're doing so much better! I'm also trying to stick to GF but recently realized that I've been eating a lot of it unknowingly (in sauces, etc.) so I have to be more careful. I'm curious what the dietitian has to say about your food log - please let us know .

Jordy, the reason I haven't been on here much lately is because I felt like I was getting too paranoid about every possible food that made someone else sick. I realized that I need to figure out what causes ME problems and that I need to take it slow. For example, someone posts here that they have problems with bananas, so I'm like, OMG, I eat them all the time! So I stop for a few days and then I remember days when I was doing pretty well while eating them so I incorporate them again. I felt like I was jumping from one approach to another with mixed results. But I couldn't abandon the site completely so I was still checking new posts .
I've been thinking about why I was doing so well while I was in Italy a month ago. I was really constipated (always like that when I travel) but no bloating and no pain. I was sticking to GF and mostly EFI (sometimes I ate a few fries, sometimes couldn't get SF with my meal, etc. - no big cheating though). I tried to stick to the same diet when I got back but my problems came back (although not as bad as when eating gluten) and it hit me that I also ate very little sugar at that time! And now I'm definitely eating more, I love York Peppermint Patties so I have a bunch of those pretty much every other day, I drink dairy free hot chocolate - all that extra sugar! So for the next few days I'm going to try and stick to GF, EFI, and low sugar (just from fruits) and see what happens.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327594 - 04/01/08 06:47 AM
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I felt like I was getting too paranoid about every possible food that made someone else sick. I realized that I need to figure out what causes ME problems and that I need to take it slow. For example, someone posts here that they have problems with bananas, so I'm like, OMG, I eat them all the time! So I stop for a few days and then I remember days when I was doing pretty well while eating them so I incorporate them again. I felt like I was jumping from one approach to another with mixed results


This is a very easy thing to do...and I know I have fallen into this anxiety too and should follow your example and just take a break.

I forgot you were in Italy!!!! How cool!

Good luck following both the EFI and the GF diet. It is so hard. I think I may give up the EFI diet (or, less likely, the GF). I am just too constipated and it doesn't seem to help me as much as it has others. But I'm scared to let go of it.

Forgive me, but why do you eat GF? Did you test positive for antibodies? Oh, how's the Acacia treating you!

I'm glad you popped in with an update.

Ya know, I may be getting gluten from unknown sources too. How did you realize what products actually contained it? I can't imagine it would be in too many products. Hopefully? Have you ever met with a dietician?

Anyhow, good to hear from you! I totally understand the need to step back. I have eliminated so many foods from my diet based on what other people have posted. It's very easy to fall into that fear.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327596 - 04/01/08 07:07 AM
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I never tested positive for gluten antibodies. But I heard that if you have none to very low immunoglobulin A (which is my case) the test can be false negative. So I tried the GF diet and noticed some improvement (that was back in 06). Now that I think about it I was also eating very little sugar at that time so it could have been a combination of both. And I was eating dairy. I still have no idea if dairy is a yes or a no for me - I think something else every week, lol! I'll experiment once I'm stable.

I didn't notice anything different since I started the Acacia. I don't feel worse but I don't feel better either.

I never met with a dietitian, I'm just using the information I've read in books/on the internet. I realized that I wasn't careful enough with gluten since it's actually in a lot of non-wheat cereals (honey-nut cheerios, generic rice chex...) hidden as barley malt extract. Some ethic cuisine sauces also contain gluten (last one I noticed was Kikkoman's black bean sauce in my fridge). So stuff like that I just really need to watch out for.

I'm currently scheduled for another GI test - my last one I guess. It's the pillcam test and I'm having it done next Tuesday. The only thing I think they could possibly find would be flattened villi that the endoscopy missed (they didn't go far down enough, etc.). But even if that's negative many people can still be gluten intolerant even when no physical damage is shown. I think that's my case since I do feel better GF. I think . I'll know for sure once I'm stable!

How are you doing? Which diet are you following at the moment? EFI?

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327608 - 04/01/08 09:23 AM
welshsarah

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Hi Zara!

Gosh i've missed you, jordy and erilyn!

Yeah, i felt the same as you- i.e. getting paranoid about what i could and couldn't eat. Plus, i found the EFI diet far too stressful, particularly as i don't feel it wroks for me.

Jordy - i'm literally not following any of the EFI principles. I'm drinking coffee, eating dairy products, not watching my SF/IF intake etc etc. I'm just being super strict in not let a hint of gluten pass my lips.

Saw the dietitian this afternoon and she was amazed at the positive response i've had from cutting out gluten (ie minimal bloating and going from having a BM once-twice a week to having it daily). She suspects that i have celiacs but doesn't think it's worth testing for since it means going back to eating gluten and i'm already self-treating it even if i do have it. PLus, i've had problems with my teeth enamel recently which also suggests i've got celiacs so she wants me to eat as much dairy as possible to prevent osteoporosis.

All those who are reading this and following the EFI diet- i'm aware that i'm speaking of a diet other than Heather's but i'm not saying that everyone should follow this. I'm just giving an update on my progress so please don't get mad and thinking i'm hijacking Heather's board/diet.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327615 - 04/01/08 10:18 AM
Zara

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"she wants me to eat as much dairy as possible"

OMG, you lucky girl ! I wish! Dairy is what I miss the most. But I'm so glad you're doing so well on the GF diet! And I agree - if you have such positive diet response why go back to eating it? What if you found out that you're "only" gluten intolerant as opposed to having celiacs? That there would be no point of eating it anyway. I'm not eating gluten for the pillcam test either. I figured that I've been glutening myself so much in the past that if I actually do have some damage it would show anyway. And if I don't then at least I'm not making myself sick.

Also, as I mentioned before I'm interested if sugar could cause me problems. Did you by any chance decrease the amount of sugar you eat? Or have you just never really eaten much of it anyway? I consider myself an addict, I'm surprised I don't have diabetes by now . I do try to eat healthy but I realized that even the healthy foods (especially snacks) are pretty high in sugar - granola bars, protein bars, chocolate, candy, and I'm not counting sugar from fruit. I really need to cut back .

But anyway, glad you hear you're doing so much better ! Keep us posted!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327617 - 04/01/08 10:56 AM
welshsarah

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Thanks

I'm quite relieved that i can eat dairy- i've missed it loads too! You're right- whatever the diagnosis i'm going to have to avoid gluten forever anyway!

I think sugar causes me problems too. I'm a fellow sugar addict and i think it makes me bloated because whenever i have lots of it in my day (which is often) i get bloating. I kept a food diary this past week and it's shocking how my diet is made up of so much sugar, and how the amount of sugar i eat coincides with bloating. However, i'm not sure if i can give up my love affair with it. I am trying to limit it but it's so difficult... I don't know how you can do gluten free, EFI and low sugar!

Hope you're ok. Good luck with the test next week

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327619 - 04/01/08 11:39 AM
Zara

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"I don't know how you can do gluten free, EFI and low sugar"

Well, I've only been low sugar for about two days (that's when I had my "sugar epiphany") . I'm not sure for how long I can do it. I read somewhere that it takes 5 days to overcome the withdrawal cravings and then 2 months to make not eating it a new habit. But that's probably for normal people and not someone who has been seen eating sugar cubes in the past . So we'll see...:). The food diary is a good idea, I really have to make myself to keep one.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327622 - 04/01/08 12:36 PM
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I am so curious to know what foods where on that journal. Do you realize the freedom this gives you!!!! Oh, how I miss coffee, salads, cheeseburgers with the works, and so much more!

Were you eating GF before you joined the Helpforibs website? If not, I can understand how starting the two at the same time could confuse you...which is where I'm at! I never got stable with just one or the other....or with doing both at the same time.

Did the dietician offer you anymore advice than to remain GF?I know you mentioned you still had bloating or a few other nagging problems. I can't believe you can eat ANYTHING that is GF. What kind of "specialist" is she? I need to go to one!

I agree...why test for celiac if you are having such good results with GF!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327624 - 04/01/08 12:42 PM
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I didn't notice anything different since I started the Acacia. I don't feel worse but I don't feel better either.


Maybe you haven't reached a high enough amount yet? Are you still taking a probiotic or Dig. Enzymes?

Right now, I'm still following both diets, like you. But I think I really need to try just one...just don't know which one to pick! I don't think I feel that much difference being GF...but who knows...maybe I'd feel even worse. There must be some reason for those positive gluten antibodies. Maybe it's the stress of trying to do both diets? And the fear I develop when I read other people's triggers?

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327626 - 04/01/08 12:45 PM
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I'm having BMs daily and not taking any supplements


Are you not eating a lot of gf substitutes? I find that they (the rice bread, cookies, muffins) actually increased my C so much. That's where I'm at now. I used to be chronic D before going GF.

Honestly, Sarah, I don't know what I'm gonna do...I don't know what my answer is.

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Good luck new
      #327628 - 04/01/08 12:50 PM
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Are you feeling better on this diet? I never thought of sugar as a problem since it's not "suppose to be". Let me know how you do!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327631 - 04/01/08 01:41 PM
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Quote:

Quote:

I didn't notice anything different since I started the Acacia. I don't feel worse but I don't feel better either.


Maybe you haven't reached a high enough amount yet? Are you still taking a probiotic or Dig. Enzymes?





Yeah, it's possible that I'd need to take more (now 1.5t twice a day). But I also feel like it's just unnatural to take that much fiber just from supplements. At the same time I realize that I can't eat too many IF rich foods either.

Right now I'm not doing any enzymes or probiotics. I finished the VSL#3 with no results so I feel like I should just give my body a break for a few weeks.

I'm not sure if I can help you with picking out which diet to go with. Do you remember which one made you feel less bad just on its own? I'd start with that one but tweak it a little and incorporate something what you find beneficial from the other diet. Like I know for a fact that fatty foods bother me regardless of whether they do or do not contain gluten. So I stay away from those. I think the EFI diet is a very good place to start but then we really need to customize it to our needs. For me I believe that it can really help with diarrhea and somewhat with constipation but I don't think it's effective on its own when it comes to treating bloating. Bloating is one of my biggest problems so I'm looking elsewhere to take care of it. That's why I'm trying GF.

I really hope you find out which approach is the best for you!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327632 - 04/01/08 02:03 PM
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It's nice to have you guys back!

Zara, I know what you mean about the "sugar epiphany" – I can't eat a lot of sugar either, and not just fructose (I recently tried a fruit cup experiment that failed miserably). I always felt better when I ate less sugar. And it DOES get easier - back when I was doing the Atkins diet, I found that within a month or so I was already becoming "turned off" by sugar. I used to put 2 sugars in my coffee every day, and suddenly one day I didn't want it anymore. I can't STAND sugar in coffee now – not that I drink coffee anymore but you know what I mean. And now when I bake I always cut the sugar by a third – if I use the entire amount called for I find it too sweet. And the stuff definitely contributes to gas and bloat!

Sarah, that's great that your dr wants you to eat more dairy – I'm jealous! Actually I'm doing better with the whole missing dairy thing – within the last month my cheese cravings have really begun to subside. Took long enough! And I'm so glad the GF diet seems to be working for you – hopefully you have found your magic bullet with this one! I just asked my dr to test me for Celiac last month because I couldn't recall if I'd ever been tested for it, and it came back negative. So now if I ever decide to try GF it will be by my own choice, rather than necessity.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327640 - 04/01/08 03:09 PM
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Hi Erilyn, your post is so encouraging! I'm glad to hear it does get easier because right now, after every meal, my stomach is like, "ok, now what, gimme something sweet" . So today I did have a little bit of chocolate (but less then usual) and I'm planning being strong after dinner, lol! Hopefully that will mean less bloating tomorrow - I am very results-driven !

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Re: Zara and Sarah new
      #327641 - 04/01/08 04:02 PM
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Hi There. I've not done much blogging or whatever this is called, but, I just wanted to say that I have had IBS for about 7 years now, and only recently have it under control.
I went to a doctor about a year ago who put me on anti-spasmadic meds. However, I have been cutting back on the quantities he wanted me on.(1st he had me taking them twice a day, but, I found one in the morning was all I needed)
Recently we went to Hawaii, and it was very relaxing. I worried that drinking different water, eating different foods would get me going again, but, it didn't. AS a matter of fact, things were going so well, that when I came home I tried just taking the Peppermint Capsules that I ordered from this website, and drink peppermint tea/sometimes fennel tea (for gas) and see how things went. I've been great! I haven't taken a anti-spasmadic pill for 3 weeks now, and outside of a little gas which the tea seems to have helped, I'm doing fine. I have been pretty much eating anything I want. But, I do notice that I have to eat small meals, often, and I have better results than when I skip meals, etc.

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327654 - 04/02/08 04:30 AM
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Hi Erilyn! Thanks for your encouragement. I am a bit nervous about bringing dairy products back into my diet, especially as my digestive system seems to be working so well at the moment. At least i'll know what to do if adding dairy back in doesn't work.

I'm trying to cut back on sugar but i'm hoping that now that i'm adding dairy back in i can have yoghurts for dessert so won't crave sweets and chocolate so much. Or maybe that's wishful thinking!!! Glad you've figured out fruit's a problem.

Jordy - are you IBS C or D? I've read loads of accounts where just cutting gluten out is enough to sort out C and some where gluten and dairy works. check this link out...

http://www.irritable-bowel-syndrome.ws/gluten-free-diet.htm

Good luck with your next step. I'm sorry things are so tough for you and don't seem to be working. My anxiety levels increase when i spend lots of time on this site because i get paranoid that i'm intolerant of everything and not carrying all the measures that others are but that's just me. The older i get the more i worry!



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Re: I'm here! new
      #327657 - 04/02/08 05:11 AM
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Sarah, thanks for the link! I will definitely read it! I feel like I've read the entire internet trying to help myself, lol !

I did something really really stupid yesterday. Suddenly lastnight my mind must have gone on vacation and I ate about 5 large cookies! Full of gluten, sugar, fat, made with real butter... . I wonder when and how much I will pay for that. The only hope is that earlier last afternoon I had a cup of senna tea because I really needed to get my bowels going. Because I'm trying to stay away from laxatives I had a pretty strong reaction resulting in a D. So hopefully some of that "crap" got washed out.

Oh well, today I'm climbing back on the wagon. I just wanted to "confess" here

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      #327723 - 04/03/08 12:28 PM
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Hey Zara!

How are you feeling after your cookies??? I bet they tasted great! Hope you haven't suffered too much as a result. If it's any consolation, i am the queen of blowouts- especially when it comes to ice cream and chocolate! I think i am defo a chocoholic. For example, tonight i've had my dinner which i love to round off with a couple of squares of chocolate. However, we have no chocolate in the house! Tough times. I could go out to the shops and buy some but my laziness is overtaking the desire... Hmmm, maybe this is a good way of kicking the chocolate addiction!

Are you back on the bandwagon now?

I've had dairy products three days in a row now (yoghurt, cheese, and milk). No reactions yet but it could be early days. Lets hope no reactions come!

Hope you're ok

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327725 - 04/03/08 12:39 PM
Zara

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Hey Sarah,

Yes, the cookies were awesome but now I also have not-so-awesome stomach pains. I'm not sure if it was from the cookies or the chocolate chips or whatever else in them or from the senna tea. I'm also really bloated but that should hopefully go away. At least I learned my lesson :-).

I understand what it's like not having anything to nibble on in the house. I'd probably just go and buy something if the craving was really strong :-). So good for you that you resisted!

The dairy stuff is so exciting, maybe you can have it after all! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that no bad reaction will come!

Stay well !

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327727 - 04/03/08 01:00 PM
welshsarah

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Oh no, that sucks. Poor you. Hope you feel better soon.

I'm satisfying my chocolate craving by having a cup of hot chocolate

Thanks for your well wishes.

It's time for House now- love the show!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327730 - 04/03/08 02:27 PM
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It's time for House now- love the show!




Haha, my friend's addicted to that show! I've never watched an entire episode so I never really got into it. My weakness is Lost .

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327732 - 04/03/08 02:35 PM
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I've never watched an episode of Lost- mostly because my husband is a plane geek and couldn't stand the inaccuracy of the plane crash at the beginning of the show. So, i figured he would just ruin the pleasure of watching it with his moaning! Ha ha!

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327757 - 04/04/08 04:36 AM
Zara

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That's funny ! Thank goodness I don't know much about planes so I can watch the show !

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Sarah? new
      #327760 - 04/04/08 06:50 AM
Jordy

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Not sure if you saw this or the other one on how much GF substitutes (breads, muffins, cookies) you are eating as opposed to "natural" GF foods...like apples, potato, veggies, meats, etc.

Could I email you if you don't want to list these on this forum?

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Re: I'm here! new
      #327761 - 04/04/08 06:53 AM
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But I also feel like it's just unnatural to take that much fiber just from supplements. At the same


I sort of feel this way too. I take it you aren't planning on increasing.

Hopefully, you will be able to eat more IF foods soon. How are you able to not be C ?

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I'm not sure if I can help you with picking out which diet to go with. Do you remember which one made you feel less bad just on its own?


Oh, I didn't expect you to tell me....sorry if you got that impression. To be honest, I started them at the same time, so I don't know either! So, now, I feel sort of stuck with both....although you seem to be "at peace" with accepting both!

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Oh, I get her newsletters! new
      #327762 - 04/04/08 06:58 AM
Jordy

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And I am definitely a C!!! Sometimes (rarely) an A? I also have pain, pain, pain...and bloat and gas and cramps. The whole shabang!

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That's great Dazzle! new
      #327764 - 04/04/08 07:02 AM
Jordy

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I wonder why a trip would change things so much for you. It's not like you made any drastic changes. Maybe I'll have to plan a medical "trip" to Hawaii!

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Jordy new
      #327770 - 04/04/08 07:51 AM
Zara

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Jordy, no, I didn't think you expected me to help you pick the right approach, I just meant that I don't know enough to even sort it out for myself . To be honest, most of the time I'm not "at peace" accepting GF, dairy free, EFI, and low sugar! Sometimes I really feel like it's too much and I need at least a little bit of my favorite foods! I have good days when I'm really determined, and I also have bad days, when I....well, fall off the wagon . So that's not the right way to go! I'm sure these shock waves are just really confusing for my body. So I think I need to play with my diet and perhaps select little things from these different groups. For example, even back when I was eating dairy, I remember feeling OK after having a little bit of cheese as a part of my meal but then I did get sick from a big ice cream sunday or a milkshake. It could have been the quantity (little cheese x huge shake), the fact that the cheese is fermented, or that cheese doesn't contain loads of sugar like the ice cream/milkshake. So I plan on experimenting in the future.

As of now I still do have C but that could be for many reasons. As of last week I ate pretty big amounts of chocolate, this week I had that cookie mishap...so yeah, I'm not as strict as I sound . Maybe (hopefully) C will go away once my body gets rid of all that "residue" from these unfortunate eating episodes .

Hawaii sounds great, maybe that really is all you need ;

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Sarah new
      #327780 - 04/04/08 10:18 AM
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Sarah, did you get that GF Vegan cookbook? I'm pretty sure I remember you saying you were going to buy it. Any good recipes in it?

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Re: Jordy new
      #327781 - 04/04/08 10:20 AM
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Let's ALL go to Hawaii! I'm totally game!

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Re: Sarah? new
      #327808 - 04/04/08 04:33 PM
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Hi Jordy,

Sorry i didn't reply to your post. I'm not eating gluten free bread (really don't like). I suppose the only substitutes i'm eating are rice cakes. All my other staples are natural eg fruit, veg, potatoes, rice, buckwheat pasta, corn flakes. I try to eat as naturally as possible. However, i don't necessarily eat as healthily as i could- i love peanut butter, chocolate and coffee/tea!

You're welcome to email me any time you like. My email address is sarahaw@hotmail.com

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Re: Sarah new
      #327810 - 04/04/08 04:35 PM
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Hey Erilyn!

Yeah, i bought it. To be honest, it wasn't very good. I ended up selling it. The recipes weren't very appetizing nor were they practical. Was worth a shot though! Consequently, my plan is to adapt "normal" recipes to my dietary restrictions. So far, so good.



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Re: Oh, I get her newsletters! new
      #327811 - 04/04/08 04:37 PM
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Gosh, poor you. I suppose i'm quite lucky in so far as i just get C and major bloating and discomfort. No pain though, and rarely cramps.

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Re: Jordy new
      #327812 - 04/04/08 04:39 PM
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Erilyn, that's genius idea! Would so love to go to Hawaii! Flying from the UK would take forever though...

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Re: Sarah new
      #327815 - 04/04/08 06:58 PM
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Aww that's too bad. I bought a Vegan dessert book a few months ago and was slightly disappointed with it. A lot of weird ingredients, you need a food processor for many of them, and most of them were still high fat. I may still try a few though, someday!

Haha - I vote that the next IBS Fall Sprawl takes place in Hawaii! But I guess that would be a pretty long haul from the UK!

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Re: Sarah new
      #327825 - 04/05/08 03:19 AM
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I could combine it with a holiday with the hubby- he wouldn't need much persuasion to go on hols to Hawaii!

Yeah, i had the same difficulties as you with vegan book. I love experimenting with recipes, i just don't like anything too fussy and complicated. Low cost all the way!

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Dairy update new
      #327826 - 04/05/08 03:25 AM
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So... I've been eating dairy products since Tuesday (yoghurt, cheese, milk on cereal) and i'm still having regular daily BMs. If i was to react to the dairy do you think i'd know by now?

I'm still getting a bit of bloating but i think that's because i've been accidentally glutenning myself- did you know there's gluten in Cadburys Dairy Milk chocolate??? Only found out yday and i've been eating it every day and wondering why i was getting some bloating! Didn't realise it'd be so difficult to recognise products that have gluten in, particularly as the wrappers on dairy milk are so unclear. Ah well!

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Re: Dairy update new
      #327829 - 04/05/08 04:42 AM
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Yay, that definitely sounds like success to me! I agree, I think you'd feel the dairy affecting you by now. How much have you been eating?
I didn't know that about Cadbury chocolate. I just read somewhere that Cadbury cream eggs are GF so I'd assume the same about the regular chocolate as well. How did you find out about it? Does it say "wheat" or is it camouflaged as "natural flavorings"? Hmm, learn something new every day...

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Re: Dairy update new
      #327831 - 04/05/08 06:49 AM
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Woo hoo! I hope the success continues...
I think i'm having a decent amount of dairy. For example, on wednesday i had cheese with my salad, milk in my coffee, a yoghurt and some chocolate. I'm having at least a yoghurt and milk in my coffee every day.

Cadburys are sneaky because on the wrapper they have camouflaged the gluten. The only way i found out was by going on the website and looking at the product finder. There it specifically tells you if it's suitable for specific food allergies. However, i have learnt that Cadburys twirl, flake and fudge are safe so it's not all bad. I used to eat so much dairy milk though!

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Zara new
      #327905 - 04/07/08 09:51 AM
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To be honest, most of the time I'm not "at peace" accepting GF, dairy free, EFI, and low sugar! Sometimes I really feel like it's too much and I need at least a little bit of my favorite foods!


I don't feel so alone and weak anymore. I keep beating myself up because I feel so "weak" when I know other people are doing what seems so restrictive and depriving to me. I wonder what's wrong with me that I am having such a hard time accepting this as a way of life. I'm so tired of so many foods being "off limits". I am getting very depressed at the thought of having to live like this for the rest of my life. Geesh, I am so tired of reading labels and saying "no" to foods I am offered and once loved to eat. I feel "cheated". For sure I would have a better attitude if I was getting some positive results....but I can't figure this out and I hate not having any definite answers....like if either of these diets even has made any difference. I hate that I don't even know if all this "deprivation" is even necessary since I still suffer. I worry that I would be even worse if I didn't follow these diets. I "think" I was worse pre-diets but it's been so long, I honestly don't remember.

Why can't a doctor just tell me if I need to be GF or not????? Why can't I figure out if this EFI diet is causing me more anxiety and C or if it is preventing me from having even worse symptoms.

I gave in today, and I am drinking a cup of Simply Smooth Decaf coffee. EVERYONE at work drinks coffee and I adore coffee. I just wanted a treat, ya know! Like the chocolate chip cookies! I don't want to have to live the rest of my life without the little joys of life...like a simple cup of decaf coffee or a Christmas cookie or a freaking piece of normal wheat bread and cereals and all the "normal" grocery store items. I just don't have the guts to "give up" and try a free for all (within limits, of course). I can't even allow myself a small piece of cheese....or a spoonful of yogurt....and geesh, how I miss cottage cheese on my baked potatoes. I feel so weak and like "what's wrong with me that you gals are able to be at peace with this lifestyle change and I just feel sorry for myself".

Anyhow, just needed to vent. I don't know what I should do. I don't know what is best for me to eat/not eat and I hate it. I hate not knowing if an apple is a trigger! What if I am restricting all this gluten, fat, fructose, dairy for years and it isn't even necessary? That I would be feel the same physically even if I didn't?

I'm having a bad day. I just want to eat. I feel like Andrew did when he wrote his last post and left and decided the emotional toll wasn't worth it.

Not to mention the supplements...which ones help, which ones don't make a difference, which ones may even be hurting. It just seems like no matter what I take or eat, I still hurt, plus I am depressed about having to be so rigid. Can't even go to my mom's for a stupid meal. Or a birthday party...or any event that involves food that I have no control over.

Thanks again for listening. Good luck with your search....with your Acacia experiment, etc. Please keep in touch. I feel so alone with all this.

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Re: Sarah? new
      #327906 - 04/07/08 09:53 AM
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Thank you for allowing me to email you. I just really would like some ideas from someone who is strictly GF. I would love to have a sample of the diet journal you gave your dietician.

I tested positive for gluten antibodies, yet some of my doctors say that that doesn't mean I need to be GF or that it would even benefit me. But I can't forget about the antibodies. Doesn't that say something?

Did she have any suggestions for you? How are you controlling your C since you don't take any supplements? I'm so tired.

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      #327907 - 04/07/08 09:59 AM
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You just figured out you were Gluten Intolerant by trying the diet and getting good results?

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Re: So new
      #327916 - 04/07/08 11:51 AM
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Yup, that's right. Doctors over here aren't hot on doing lots of tests. I'd had enough of feeling ill so decided to try going strictly gluten free (no oats even) and it's worked. Added dairy back in, not to sure about whether my body likes it in larger doses.

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Re: Sarah? new
      #327917 - 04/07/08 11:56 AM
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Oh Jordy, poor you. It is exhausting IBS. Especially when you don't know how to treat it. I'm not sure about the whole gluten antibodies thing. My dietitian didn't even look at my food diary in the end as she didn't feel it was necessary.

Re. my C- it just cleared up without any supplements. However, i'm C and really bloated today for the first time in just over 3 weeks so am feeling disillusioned and annoyed. I've been eating dairy in larger doses since last Wednesday so i'm wondering if now it's finally catching up with me... Ah well!

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Re: Zara new
      #327936 - 04/07/08 03:37 PM
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Jordy, I'm sorry you're having such a bad day today, and I understand your frustration. It can be very hard when you just want to eat the same food everybody else does. What worked for me was realizing that with this diet I'm finding all kinds of good things I wouldn't have tasted before. Like I was at Whole Foods yesterday and I came across these Lundberg rice cakes in tamari sesame flavor. They're so good that I could just eat them dry! So yeah, I still have days when I'm down and just want to eat whatever (like those cookies before) but fortunately I also have days when I like all these new foods.

I think the reason doctors won't tell us what to eat is because (at least here) they're very test-result oriented. Which makes sense because that's what they went to school for. They won't tell us to give up dairy if we tested negative for lactose intolerance. So while I'm glad that I had testing done and know that there's nothing terribly wrong with me, I also realized that I am the only person who can help me. So I'm searching for answers on the internet, books, other people's ideas (such as this board) and I'm playing my own guinea pig. Sometimes it works and sometimes I get sick.

It seems to me like you're trying to be too hard on yourself and it's not working. Don't beat yourself up over one cup of coffee. Maybe you'll find out that you can actually tolerate it once in a while and that way you don't have to give up your favorite treat forever! I truly believe that I'll be able to enjoy at least some dairy ocasionally one day once I get a bit more stable. I think we should do what feels best of us. And if you think this diet has taken an emotional toll on you maybe you should just try to give it a break for a couple of days and see. At least if you feel a lot worse you'll know what to do to get back on track.

Please keep trying, you're not alone .

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chocolate? new
      #327937 - 04/07/08 03:45 PM
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Sarah, I hope it's not the dairy that caused you C and bloating today . I've been hoping I could have it too since you seemed to be doing so well with it.

Recently I realized that I've been going overboard with chocolate. I made sure it was GF and dairy free but I have been eating it in rather large quantities (even if it was after dinner that had SF). It seems to me that I can tolerate it one day, then the next, but then if I have it again it's just too much and I get sick. Fortunately there's no more of that brown evil at the house so I'm determined to try to go a few days without eating any and seeing if I get better. So I was wondering if it could have been chocolate that caused you this reaction?

I hope I'm making sense. I'm incapable of thinking straight because I'm so hungry , I'm fasting for tomorrow's test so I haven't eaten since mid-morning and now it's almost seven o'clock .

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Re: Zara new
      #327966 - 04/08/08 09:50 AM
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Thank you so much, Zara. I needed the pep talk!

How do you incorporate both diets into your day? What do you eat for your meals and snacks and drinks? Any help would be great! I need some inspiration or something.

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think the reason doctors won't tell us what to eat is because (at least here) they're very test-result oriented. Which makes sense because that's what they went to school for.


I think you are right. They don't know...they are scientists and go strictly by test results...and there are none for IBS and very rigid ones for celiac (no GI exists to them, it seems).

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Re: Sarah? new
      #327978 - 04/08/08 10:18 AM
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Sarah, are you feeling any better today? I went about 3 weeks or so without being C at one point and then Bam! it hit me out of nowhere again. I'm back to the old cycle of being C once every 7-10 days. But if that's it, then I'll gladly deal with it!

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Re: Zara new
      #327987 - 04/08/08 12:39 PM
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How do you incorporate both diets into your day? What do you eat for your meals and snacks and drinks? Any help would be great! I need some inspiration or something.





I like to cook (when I have the time) so often I make more servings of a recipe and then have it for lunch the next day. Since I was never a huge pasta eater anyway I didn't feel like giving it up was a huge sacrifice. Plus, I like the GF brown rice pasta so that's what I eat if I want some once in a while. Very often I just take my favorite recipe and adapt it to fit my diet. To thicken stews and sauces I use corn starch or a finely grated potato. If I need to add milk or cream I add rice milk (not the same but usually still pretty good). I reduce the amount of fat - most dishes are forgiving and don't actually need all that fat. Very often (when I'm lazy ) I just throw a piece of meat on the grill and then make rice, quinoa, or potatoes on the side.

So here's an example of my daily menu:

breakfast - lately I've been liking Arrowhead Mills' Rice and Shine Hot Cereal, or Rice Chex. To both I add ground flaxseed for extra IF and sometimes frozen fruit
lunch - leftovers from dinner, or a sandwich - GF bread with hummus, ham, peppers, lettuce, tomatoes. Often I just throw the sandwich stuff in a container and bring it to work along with rice cakes and make these open-face rice cake sandwiches at work
dinner - I eat a lot of chicken - stew it with some vegetables, make soup with rice noodles, grill a piece of breast, bake the entire bird in the oven, make chicken curry, "pulled chicken barbecue" (like pulled pork but with chiken)...pretty much whatever recipe I come across and looks good, as long as I make it low fat and within my dietary requirements. Or fish - baked in the oven or grilled, with the sides I wrote at the top and some steamed veggies. I also have time periods when I can tolerate salads so I make salads with grilled chicken.
Snack - I'm OK with eggs as long as I don't eat too many so I'd eat hard a boiled egg with rice cakes, baked sweet potatoes, cereal, fruit, sometimes a Luna bar or raw almonds (or home roasted), or a piece of a GF cake/brownie, rice crackers with avocado, hummus, Trader Joe's red pepper spread
drinks - water, tea (chamomile, fennel, mint, lemon, fruit-flavored herbal tea). Occasionally I have a can of diet coke because I don't think it causes me problems, although I'm not completely sure.

Now that I'm trying to think about it it's actually hard for me to think of stuff that I eat, just because lots of times I just throw a bunch of stuff together and make a stew or a casserole and then have leftovers.

By no means I'm saying that eating like this works, it's just an example of what I'm eating right now and I'm hoping for the best . I hope you're feeling better .

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      #327988 - 04/08/08 01:09 PM
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Thanks, this helps.

Can you suggest a brand/type of GF bread? I can't find one that is affordable, safe, and tastes decent! Or are you still making yours from a mix?

FYI, not sure if you know or not but I think rice chex contains barley...and the Luna Bars are not GF.

Brown rice pasta seems to constipate me. And I, unlike you, hate to cook!

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GF bread with hummus, ham, peppers, lettuce, tomat


You can handle all these ingredients? I didn't think ham was safe.

What are your favorite veggies to eat steamed? And what fruits can you "handle" as a snack without having to eat SF first?

Thanks again. Your diet looks good! PS, I add flaxmeal to my cereal too!

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Re: Sarah? new
      #327989 - 04/08/08 01:14 PM
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Hi Erilyn! I'm much better today thanks. The bloating was really bad yesterday but i still managed to have a BM yesterday evening and this morning. So maybe this is now just the natural course of my IBS since my constipation is a million times better than it has ever been. If that's the case i'm with you- happy to deal with it!

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Re: Zara new
      #327994 - 04/08/08 02:27 PM
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Jordy, you're absolutely right about Luna bars. They must have been on my mind since those days when I was only doing wheat free. They are wheat free but not GF. Luckily I haven't had one since that cookie mishap anyway .

Rice Chex is gluten free now, just make sure you get the new version. It even says "gluten free" on the box. They changed the formula so that it doesn't have barley malt anymore.
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I still make my GF bread from the mix. My favorite is Pamela's . I purchased it in a box of 6 from Amazon so it's not as expensive as at the HFS.

hummus, ham, peppers, lettuce, tomatoes - yes, I can usually tolerate them. Usually I eat them with rice cakes or GF bread so I guess that does the trick.

Ham - I've never really had problem with ham. I buy the most plain one I can find (it still has additives but not as much). I also forgot to mention that often I just bake a chicken breast and once it's cold I slice it up and use that in place of ham.

Veggies - for steaming I like sugar snap peas, yams, carrots, parsnips, squash, zucchini, asparagus. Those are my staples. If I feel adventurous I throw in a little (and I mean very little) bit of broccoli or green beans.

Fruits - I like mangoes, apples, applesauce, bananas, watermelon, peaches, apricots, pineapple. I seem to be fine with these.

I hope I didn't forget anything, if I did let me know and I'll respond .

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Re: Zara new
      #328029 - 04/09/08 01:44 PM
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Thank you so much. You are so kind and patient.

Real fast, not much time, but was wondering if you can eat all these fruits on an empty tummy as snacks without SF?

Can you eat all those veggies on your sandwich raw? I'm impressed!

More later...I'm at work. Maybe I should just give everyone a break and not post anymore. Maybe I just need time away.

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Re: Zara new
      #328045 - 04/09/08 05:12 PM
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I'm glad if I can help so please don't feel like you need to give everyone a break .

Yes, I can eat all those veggies on my sandwich raw. I think it's because of the bread/rice cakes which make a good SF base. I hope I didn't make it sound like I just pile tons of them on, I'm sorry if I gave you that idea. Usually it's just a few slices and it's not all those veggies at the same time, usually it's just one or two. Sorry I didn't make that clear in the first post.

Fruits - yes, I can tolerate those on empty stomach so that's how I eat them. Except for the pineapple, I don't know why but I only want to eat it after dinner .

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Re: Zara new
      #328076 - 04/10/08 11:28 AM
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Awe, your just too sweet. I would love to add some raw veggies to my plain sandwiches....but thanks for clarifying you don't add lots.

One more question, I promise. Do you peel your apples, peaches, etc before you eat them on an empty tummy?

That is so weird that you want pineapple after dinner....cuz that's when I want it. (although I have banned it cuz I am scared of the acid...like oranges). I miss oranges.

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Re: Zara new
      #328088 - 04/10/08 01:21 PM
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No problem, keep asking . That is weird that you also like pineapple after dinner, I guess we have the same IBS and same tastes .

I don't peel any of those fruits because I feel like I need the extra IF from the peel. I tried it in the past and when it comes to bloating it didn't really make a difference. I still get a bit bloated every day but it's not as bad as it used to be. I also have days when I get really bloated but usually it's when I ate a large dinner or had a lot of snacks after dinner. It doesn't really matter what I eat at night, if there's a lot of it I get bloated the next day. One time I got bloated because I had too many rice cakes .

I take it one step at a time, right now I'm focusing on being able to have a BM and not having painful attacks. I'm doing well with the pain and OK with BM. Once that's out of the way I will focus more on bloating .

Why are you afraid of oranges? Do they actually make you feel bad or is it because they're not supposed to be good for IBS? One thing that really helped me was not to be afraid of certain foods just because other people cannot tolerate them. In the beginning every time I read someone had a reaction to something I cut it out of my diet. Pretty soon I was angry and deprived and felt like there was nothing tasty (that I liked) for me to eat. So I decided that I will test everything myself and was able to include more things back .

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Re: Zara new
      #328122 - 04/11/08 09:45 AM
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Why are you afraid of oranges? Do they actually make you feel bad or is it because they're not supposed to be good for IBS?


The reason is the latter...because others have reported major problems with them, so I have become too fearful to eat them. I figure, if so many people have a problem with them, and since I don't know what is causing me to remain so symptomatic, I must avoid them.

Maybe I need a break from the boards. You are able to eat these fruits (even with peels) on an empty tummy. So, maybe I would be able to too, if I allowed myself the ability to overcome my fear and try and erase all the posts that I have seen. Sometimes I think I would be better off not ever have found the boards. Except for all the great people I have met! Maybe the EFI diet is just not ever gonna work for me? Yet I am too afraid (and I've read to much) not to. I don't even think I could not follow it.

PS. I have become addicted to decaf coffee....have a cup at work once a day. I don't think it really does anything to me.

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I still get a bit bloated every day but it's not as bad as it used to be


What do you attribute this to?

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right now I'm focusing on being able to have a BM and not having painful attacks. I'm doing well with the pain and OK with BM. Once that's out of the way I will focus more on bloating .



And how are you attacking this?

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Re: Zara new
      #328132 - 04/11/08 01:44 PM
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I still get a bit bloated every day but it's not as bad as it used to be


What do you attribute this to?




I think it's the lack of wheat/gluten because I do feel less bloated since on the diet.

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right now I'm focusing on being able to have a BM and not having painful attacks. I'm doing well with the pain and OK with BM. Once that's out of the way I will focus more on bloating .



And how are you attacking this?




Just trying to stick to the diet as much as I can, not eating too much chocolate in one sitting, making sure I get my SF/IF with my meals. If I feel like I'm getting C first I try to add more foods that usually work (sweet potatoes, for example) and if I'm still C the following day I take some milk of magnesia just to get things moving. However, I'm not trying to rely on laxatives so I'm trying to stick to the MOM and only when I have to. I learned my lesson a week ago when I had some senna tea - my intestines were on fire, I think because I'm not used to it anymore it affected me more.
Also I'm trying to convince my mind that it takes time, and that I will not feel better immediately. Everyone who states here that they're stable also said that it took a while for them, so that's what I'm telling my tummy, too .

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I hope you don't mind me bugging you all the time. I really trust and value your opinions!




awww, you're so sweet and I don't mind at all

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Re: I'm here! new
      #328182 - 04/13/08 06:46 AM

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Hey girls,

I was just reading through your thread. I'm really interested in this GF talk. I've been doing low-wheat, but I think I might be ready for GF. Anyway, the reason I'm posting is that I noticed, Zara, that you used a senna tea to get things moving again. I know that senna can be a really rough experience, so I just wanted to jump in and say that I used a Fleet glycerin suppository last week. I'd had a few really busy, stressful days and my body just...wouldn't. Speaking plainly, it's not fun to stick something up your bum, but you might have less pain than you have with the senna.

Hope everyone is well...
Jen

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Re: Jen M new
      #328184 - 04/13/08 08:34 AM
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Hi Jen,

Thanks for the advice . Unfortunately suppositories only work sometimes for me, sometimes they're great and sometimes...well, not so great. That's why I used the senna, thinking I'll really get things moving . But all that pain was not worth it, plus it took me another 2-3 days to recover from that. Since then I've used milk of magnesia (about once per week) and it worked pretty well, no cramps.

If you're already avoiding wheat you should give GF a try. I'm still debating whether it's gluten or wheat for me. What I'm planning to do is once I'm stable I'll try to safely add things with gluten but no wheat and see if I have a reaction.

Take care !

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Re: Jen M new
      #328240 - 04/14/08 10:16 AM

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The night I used the suppository my body finally moved the 4 days of impacted stool (no TMI warning necessary on this site, right? ) and then the next day I had a normal BM. I thought it was a painful-ish experience --only the second time I've ever used one-- but nothing like I've heard senna can be. Some burning and then a little cramping and INSANE (I'm talking HUGE) bloating as everything moved through. Anyway, I want these options to be last-resort only. Maybe I'll give Milk of Magnesia a try.

Be well!
Jen

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