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This is a very interresting article!
      #323989 - 02/04/08 05:11 PM
Sweetd

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I got this article off of an ibs website that I subcribe to which is called Everyday Health . It's typically for people with ibs and acid reflux. I have to tell you, other than Heather's website which has helped me so much (and so many of us). Here is the website link: Everyday Health

I'm sure that all of us iber's already know most of the tips that are listed in this article, but what I like about this site is that you can subscribe for weekly emails about new research and digestion/ ibs issues! You might want to check it out or even subscribe. It has been very helpful to me! I really like this article! Hopefully it can shead some light to new ibser's and even some old one like me that were unware of some of the triggers. This article pertains to Hidden IBS Triggers. Below, I have copy and pasted the article.



Eat Right to Minimize Diarrhea-
Cutting out specific foods and beverages can help you control uncomfortable symptoms.


Many doctors tell patients suffering from irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) to "eat what you want, as long as it doesn't bother you." While that may or may not be good advice, studies have shown that you can lessen your IBS symptoms by avoiding certain foods. Steer clear of these foods:

Caffeine- Caffeine stimulates the gastrointestinal system, at times leading to strong contractions and more bowel movements even in healthy individuals. Additionally, it has a diuretic effect, which may worsen dehydration caused by diarrhea.

Insoluble fiber- Raw fruits, raw vegetables, seeds, and nuts also act as a stimulant in the digestive system and can cause a narrowing to become blocked. On the other hand, soluble fiber, such as pasta, rice, baked potatoes, and oatmeal, can be soothing in that it helps bind loose stools.

Alcohol- Irritating to the GI system, alcohol carries a double whammy for IBS patients because it can worsen dehydration.

Fats- Too much dietary fat can lead to steatorrhea, a sometimes painful condition marked by foul-smelling stools that float. Fat can also increase peristaltic activity, leading to more bowel movements.

Carbonated beverages- Undigested gas bubbles from these drinks can lead to uncomfortable gas. Such gas-producing vegetables as onions, garlic, beans, broccoli, and cauliflower can also cause painful attacks.

Red meat- While red meat is a great source of vitamin B12 and other nutrients, it is hard to digest. Other sources of protein, such as white meat and fish, can be more comfortably digested.

Artificial fats and sweeteners- Products that contain artificial sweeteners, such as sorbitol, mannitol, and sucralose, can cause diarrhea and flatulence even in people with healthy GI tracts. Olestra, an artificial fat, can sometimes have the same effect.

Dairy- This applies only to lactose-intolerant people. These individuals need to steer clear of dairy foods to avoid the pain and flatulence that can worsen their symptoms. Otherwise, dairy is a good source of protein and calcium and should be kept in your diet if possible. Some people may take enzymes to help digest lactose.

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Ibs-d and fructose sensitive.






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      #324088 - 02/05/08 06:21 PM
Jordy

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I went through the different links and found so many contradictions.

One link says "A recent study has revealed that foods high in fructose — a type of sugar — may contribute to the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome (IBS). Yet another one says "One way to lessen the symptoms of IBS is by introducing fiber into your diet. Fiber reduces IBS symptoms — especially constipation — because it makes stool soft, bulky, and easier to pass. It is found in bran, bread, cereal, beans, fruit, and vegetables.
Here are some examples of foods with fiber:


Fruit: apples, peaches
Vegetable: broccoli (raw), cabbage, carrots (raw), peas
Breads, Cereals, and Beans: kidney beans, lima beans, whole-grain bread, whole-grain cereal" Apples contain fructose.

And what's even more confusing is that another link says "Many doctors tell patients suffering from irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) to "eat what you want, as long as it doesn't bother you." While that may or may not be good advice, studies have shown that you can lessen your IBS symptoms by avoiding certain foods. Steer clear of these foods:

Insoluble fiber. Raw fruits, raw vegetables, seeds, and nuts also act as a stimulant in the digestive system and can cause a narrowing to become blocked. On the other hand, soluble fiber, such as pasta, rice, baked potatoes, and oatmeal, can be soothing in that it helps bind loose stools"

So, it says raw fruits and veggies help, but then says they harm?

There's more....but how can fresh apples and raw veggies be good, but also harmful? Totally confused, here.


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Re: Please help me understand this article new
      #324123 - 02/06/08 04:58 AM
Syl

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There are no contradictions only statements of fact. It is up to you to figure which statements of fact apply to you and then figure how to use them.

The fact that some fruits can be high in fructose and high in fiber is a fact. If you cannot eat high fructose foods then fruits high in fiber and high in fructose are not fruits you want to get fiber from. Instead you choose fruits that are low in fructose and high in fiber such as berries and citrus fruits. Similarly if you have trouble with high IF foods then eat more foods with more SF as suggested.

The advice given on that web site is similar to the advice given by Heather. I found the information to be well organized, clearly presented and useful.


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STABLE: ♂, IBS-D 50+ years - Science of IBS

The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS

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      #324124 - 02/06/08 05:01 AM
Wheresthedamnloo

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I think they've ripped that info off Heather.

Sorry, but I didn't see anyone telling me what to eat until Heather's good advice.

Maybe they've seen her book and now want to set the record straight about all the stuff they said we could always eat.

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Re: Please help me understand this article new
      #324125 - 02/06/08 05:52 AM
Jordy

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I'm not stupid, Syl. In my opinion, it gives totally opposite adivise about whether or not raw veggies and apples are helpful or harmful fot those with IBS. I've read it a few times now, and I think it gives no help....only confusion to the readers.


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      #324126 - 02/06/08 05:55 AM
Jordy

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Quote:

I think they've ripped that info off Heather.


Many people are promoting this advice.

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Re: Please help me understand this article new
      #324144 - 02/06/08 08:38 AM
lalala

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Jordy, I really don't think Syl is saying you're stupid. From what I've seen, Syl has been a great help to a lot of people without being demeaning.

Anyway, this information is similar to Heather's (except the dairy part) but it doesn't seem to differentiate as much between soluble or insoluble. I see that it's mentioned, but I feel Heather does a much better job of describing/explaining the purpose of the two and how they affect our digestion. This is just an article, basically a regurgitation of information, so not everything is presented or explained. Personally, I'm just sticking to what Heather's saying since I respect how much time and effort she's put into her research.

Edited by Maria!Maria! (02/06/08 08:47 AM)

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Re: Please help me understand this article new
      #324259 - 02/07/08 08:14 AM
Sweetd

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Quote:

Jordy, I really don't think Syl is saying you're stupid. From what I've seen, Syl has been a great help to a lot of people without being demeaning.

Anyway, this information is similar to Heather's (except the dairy part) but it doesn't seem to differentiate as much between soluble or insoluble. I see that it's mentioned, but I feel Heather does a much better job of describing/explaining the purpose of the two and how they affect our digestion. This is just an article, basically a regurgitation of information, so not everything is presented or explained. Personally, I'm just sticking to what Heather's saying since I respect how much time and effort she's put into her research.




I totally agree with you about it being similar to what Heather says and I also found that strange to though what that they said about dairy also, but everything else was dead on for me. Some of the things listed on there may bother me and not some of you or visa-versa. I know that to be a fact. I've come to realize that ibs is a strange individualized issue .

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