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Re: Okay new
      #320517 - 12/12/07 01:11 PM
Kitchentrolls

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You are quite right. I think that it is a risk that some people will start to have fears for foods that they used to have no problems with before. I really hope I havenīt contributed to such fears! I dont think that apples or applesauce are triggerfoods for the vast majority of IBS sufferers, but that they can be a problem to some. And, as you say, the fructose malabsorption diet might benefit those with D more than C. Maybe we should just drop this subject cause I really donīt want to offend or scare somebody. Best regards

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Re: Okay new
      #320520 - 12/12/07 02:46 PM
Jordy

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Quote:

I really donīt want to offend or scare somebody



Neither did I. Honestly. Cross my heart! Nobody should feel that they have to defend themselves or apologize. Heck, I still don't know if fructose is a problem for me or not.

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Re: Guilty as charged new
      #320525 - 12/12/07 03:00 PM
Pud

Reged: 06/20/07
Posts: 256
Loc: Long Island

I don't really get D very often (once or twice a week - ha imagine that's being "normal")... my main problem is gas and bloating... when I first started the FI diet I was getting D.. but once I started adding different foods in I was fine... tonight is my last night before I go back to it.. I just ate a sandwhich and soup from Panera and I am so so so tempted to get a latte or ice cream!!! I am going to be paying for what I ate already.. why not make it worse?? lol

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Re: Guilty as charged new
      #320528 - 12/12/07 04:10 PM
auntdebs318

Reged: 10/18/07
Posts: 367
Loc: Yardley, Pa

I hope your going to be okay with panera bread soup. As i ate the chicken noodle in a sourdough bread bowl and I stay mainly to the C side and with in an hour of eating this I was rumbling and wounded up with loose bowels. I think there soups have tooooo much fat. becareful over there..

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BTW glad you said it new
      #320529 - 12/12/07 04:21 PM
Little Minnie

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Loc: Minnesota

instead of me.

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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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Re: Guilty as charged new
      #320538 - 12/12/07 04:56 PM
line415

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Loc: New Jersey

Good point that newcomers should try to get stable with Heather's diet and sf supplements first. I would imagine that people who are FI probably could benefit from avoiding Heather's triggers also. Then if maximum stability is not reached, looking into other things like fructose and wheat or gluten would help. I am thankful for all of the talk about it here b/c it came at a time when I needed to look further. In fact, I'm not completely sure, but I can definitely see a huge improvement in gas since avoiding gluten products more often. If I was a new person, I guess I could get confused.

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Then IBS-A, Now a transformed slightly C

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Fructose, fear and knowledge new
      #320562 - 12/13/07 05:46 AM
Syl

Reged: 03/13/05
Posts: 5499
Loc: SK, CANADA

The way to conquer fear is with knowledge!

If fructose malabsorption makes you afraid then one of the best ways to put this fear aside is to get tested or try the low fructose diet and see how it works for you! If it doesn't help then ignore the messages about fructose just like many of us ignore posting about such foods as soy because it give us too much gas and bloating even though it is recommended by Heather.

Don't be surprised to see a further increase in the number of people with IBS reporting that reducing their free fructose load improves their IBS. Over the past couple of years more GP & GI doctors have been including a fructose breath test or suggesting their IBS patients reduce their fructose load. And you will notice that more IBS diets from reputable GI centers are encouraging a greater reduction in the consumption of foods with excess fructose and fructans (for example see this web page ).

IBS is a syndrome. Heather IBS guidelines are excellent place to start for managing IBS symptoms. It is not the complete answer and for many of us we have to supplement her great EFI diet with other management tools that we have learned work well for us. Please have the courteous to allow us to share these additional IBS management techniques without worrying about who might be afraid of our useful knowledge!

Good Luck

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The FODMAP Approach to Managing IBS Symptoms
Evidence-based Dietary Management of Functional GI Symptoms: The FODMAP Approach
FODMAP Chart & Cheatsheet
The Role of Food & Dietary Intervention in IBS

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Re: BTW glad you said it new
      #320563 - 12/13/07 06:16 AM
Jordy

Reged: 08/12/06
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That's okay...I can take it. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. I know others must have been thinking it also.

Thanks for your support Little Minnie. Thank you for understanding the purpose of my post.

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Re: BTW glad you said it new
      #320567 - 12/13/07 06:50 AM
Snorkie

Reged: 02/15/05
Posts: 1999
Loc: Northern Illinois, USA

Add me to the list of people who are glad this was finally mentioned, too.

If this had been an issue when I started the diet, I would have been too terrified to eat anything but white bread and rice.

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Re: Fructose, fear and knowledge new
      #320599 - 12/13/07 10:44 AM
welshsarah

Reged: 06/30/07
Posts: 297
Loc: England, UK

Great post Syl! Wise, reasonable, and logical- love it! Thank you

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