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Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG
      #314848 - 09/11/07 07:19 PM
Sommer

Reged: 02/09/04
Posts: 283
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona USA

*BIG SIGH* Okay, okay, really sorry about this everyone. It's been ages since I've posted and/or read anything, and lately I can't keep up with my daily life as it is, so I've had a hard time trying to log onto here to read/post. So this might be kinda long. I have lots of questions that have kind of been building up, and I did searches, but am a bit overwhelmed.

First question is regarding teas. I've had peppermint (loose peppermint in a tea ball, Altoids dissolved in hot water, peppermint essential oil in hot water), I've even tried oregano (literally steeping dried oregano in hot water), tried fennel (crushed fennel seeds steeped in hot water), and finally two different herbal tea concoctions by Traditional Medicinals; one called Eater's Digest and the other just Peppermint. I have also tried chamomile by itself in the past, which doesn't seem to do well in my tummy, though chamomile is in the Eater's Digest mix and seems fine. The fennel and the oregano were just odd and I wasn't sure I appreciated them... peppermint in all forms doesn't always ease the pain, but it hardly ever made my symptoms worse. I think my fave is the Traditional Medicinals Eater's Digest. I've also been drinking a lemon, hot water, honey, ground ginger, cayenne powder mix that seems to do pretty well for me; especially since I can't drink coffee. But what about black tea, green tea, red tea, white tea, and other herbal teas? I've been looking at Starbuck's website trying to find a drink they serve that I can safely have. What about a brand called Tazo Orange Passion? They say it's herbal and doesn't actually contain tea leaves, but contains other plant ingredients, fruit peels, etc., so it's caffeine-free. I know I have to be careful about iced beverages on an empty tummy, but generally do any of you have any experience with white, red, black, green, and other herbal teas that do well on your tummies? I also drink Traditional Medicinals Eater's Digest cold with meals, especially in these hot icky months. I am going to try Cafix, I found a 7oz bottle of Cafix crystals that seems reasonable while I was online. I also have Soyfee products in my "wish list" to try if I can afford them. I read about both Cafix and Soyfee on this site. Any imput or guidance would be appreciated.

Every day I'm trying my best to remember no matter how safe something sounds, read the ingredients, read read read I think to myself. I think sometimes I hope that if I don't concentrate so hard on everything that passes into my gut, I can de-emphasize the fact that I'm stressing over it in the first place. But every day I'm becoming more and more convinced that the more natural and/or organic and extremely expensive something is, the more likely it is to contain ingredients that are better for me. I really DO want to eat better, even if it's not for just IBS, but the cost is killing me.

Graham crackers, an item I've seen before listed 'safe' and also listed in a recipe in an issue of Heather's IBS newsletter is another one I'm confused about. I've had Honey Maid honey and cinnamon graham crackers and Oatmeal Teddy Grahams, Honey Teddy Grahams, and Cinnamon Teddy Grahams and iirc I had little or no problems with these. I also believe I did ok with Teddy Grahams Chocolate Chip and Teddy Grahams Chocolate but I may just be misremembering. Anyway, I've been trying to steer away from HFCS; but as far as I can tell graham crackers (like Honey Maid and Nabisco Teddy Grahams) contain HFCS. So I decided to try O Organics brand Honey Graham bears from Safeway. Ugh, they were like eating barely sweetened corrgated cardboard - light and crispy but with a very bland taste and cardboard-like aftertaste. I admit though, the ingredients looked great. Any ideas, anyone?

Also, what about safe candy? I think I've found that Swedish Fish (both just red fish and the assorted flavors) and a brand of jelly bean called Gimbal's seem to do fine with me. Gimbal's brand is a cheaper version of Jelly Belly (less flavors but still a large variety and tastes really good) and are very fairly priced. I've found them only at Wal-Mart Their label claims they are gluten-, dairy-, nut-free. They might be listed as soy-free, too I forget heh. Tootsie Roll Midgees chocolate flavor seem to be ok on the ingredients and tummy test, but the flavor rolls and Tootsie Pops containe milk ingredients. Any ideas or experiences? I really miss candy bars... Also I noticed that Rice Krispies cereal contains HFCS so I have to be careful about trying homemade Rice Krispy squares again, really miss those, too. I've been using Smart Balance but not the Smart Balance Light because it doesn't make reference to its successful use in baking. I also purchased Smart Balance with Flax Oil which hasn't been opened yet. I'm babbling again.... Sorry. :/

Also, in the list of safe snacks on this site, Strawberry flavor (only) Fruit Roll-Ups are listed. Yay! I've actually eaten these and don't seem to have a problem but they are one of my fave flavors. Wal-Mart is selling them in a box of 20 Strawberry and Blue RasPberry flavor. I checked the Blue Raspberry ingredients and they seem comparable to the strawberry. So far, I've been comfortable eating those. Sometimes Nature Valley Crunchy Granola bars (peanut butter, oats and honey, and maple and brown sugar do fine with me, but I admit I haven't looked at their ingredients yet. I found a brand of semi-sweet chocolate chips that doesn't use any milk/milk derivative. It's sold at Kroger (Fry's) and is one of their grocery store brand names called FMV.

Finally, I have noticed that maybe 1 out of every 5 products I buy that I have to adjust for IBS can be purchased from a comparably priced brand or a generic and most of the time those taste fine and work out well, too. I've been pricing items on Amazon.com because they do carry a lot of interesting grocery and gourmet food items, unfortunately most of it comes in bulk and I've been trying to read the reviews that some customers have left for some of the products. Sometimes the website also lists ingredients in the product, which is extremely helpful. I'm a bit worried though because a lot of what they sell is in BULK and not always offered in smaller sizes. Some of their prices sound very comparable compared to purchasing from a store in the same quantity even when adding the shipping/handling charges. I just don't know how worth it is is to buy 12 boxes of dairy/milk-free Mac and Cheese. I have little to no extra space to store it and I'm the only one who really needs to eat that kind of stuff. I'm just so overwhelmed and stressed by medical and dental issues I can't afford to handle right now. My IBS diet just gets in the middle of everything else.

I guess even though there is certainly a huge abundance of delicious recipes and foods out there that are safe for IBS, I still feel trapped, deprived, overwhelmed, and confused. I have never been a huge soda drinker, but I sure do miss it. I miss real cheese, no substitution can replace that. I MISS REAL MILK. I could probably go on and on and whine and whine. My bf has to deal with chicken, and ground turkey, and chicken and drowns in white rice and potaotes. True I've found lots of yummy recipes. I can even handle a bit of lean pork. But I'm still screaming inside. I'd hate my words to discourage a person new to this IBS thing, but time in this case isn't healing my wounds so to speak. If I had the ability to make more money that would help immensely. I'm still so glad this site is out there, I still really appreciate it.

I'm actually worried I might be getting ulcers...

My progress is nearly halted again, and I still haven't been able to afford to try the acacia so I've been eating lots of white rice, french bread, sourdough bread, white bread, pasta, and potatoes as my SF base. There's probably some wheat in there too.

Well, thanks for listening/reading. I needed to vent. I don't know anyone in person who truly understands my issues. My mom tries to, my best friend who's allergic to soy (ironic! but at least I like rice and nut substitutes too) tries to, and my bf tries to. But it's not the same

I hope all of you are doing well. Lots of love to all. *HUGS*

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XOXO from lil' ol' me. (IBS-C, mood disorders, etc., etc.)

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #314850 - 09/11/07 08:04 PM
line415

Reged: 09/09/06
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Loc: New Jersey

You might want to compare what you're spending money/quantity-wise in sf foods to buying the acacia. It's not so expensive if you don't need to take too much...it will stretch quite a while (ie., how much are you spending on french bread, etc.)

Make sure you use SmartBalance Light....the regular is not dairy free. I know it says not to use in baking. I don't really bake but I do use it for mostly everything else. It doesn't melt so well, but it's good enough and tastes good too...or I'll use olive oil in cases where I can't use it.

Sorry you're feeling deprived and overwhelmed. I hear you about the ingredient dilemna and the cost of organic, etc. products. I think the trick is to find some substitutes that you can't live without and spend the money on only them. For example, at first I was spending tons of money int he HFS buying non-dairy sour cream, cheeses, soy and rice products, etc. Now I have gotten myself to a place where all I buy is almond milk, ketchup without hfcs, soyfee (which by the way tastes great but IS very expensive if you drink it daily), and some Amy's products. Truth is that lots of the substitues don't cut it taste wise for me anyway so I'd rather just eliminate them (and their cost). Hope that helps. YOu're not alone so hang in there. We all feel frustrated and discouraged from time to time.

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Originally IBS-D for a million years!
Then IBS-A, Now a transformed slightly C

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #314854 - 09/12/07 02:57 AM
blackrvn5

Reged: 04/02/07
Posts: 268
Loc: Virginia

Yes, we know your frustrations. I swear my montly grocery bills went up a few hundred when I started the diet. Of course I was still buying "regular" products for the rest of my family, but now they have to deal with mine.

As far as the teas go.... no black, green, or white-they all have some caffine, even when they say they are caffine free. I've tried quite a few herbal. You are safe with different varieties. Red tea is ok as well.

When you find something that you are ok with, then keep eating it. We all have different triggers and one thing may not work for one, but it does for another. Does HFCS bother you? If it doesn't, don't worry about cutting that out too. It doesn't bother me, so it's one last thing to worry about. I'm vegan, so I'm limited enough as it is. I have found though, there are some Vegan websites that sell foods. You may want to check out those, because you don't have to worry about dairy and egg ingredients with them. It takes off some of that stress.

Hope this helps!

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Susan
IBS-A, Gas, Pain, Reflux
"The first in time and the first in importance of the influences upon the mind is that of nature. Every day, the sun; and after sunset, night and her stars. Ever the winds blow; ever the grass grows."
Emerson, August 31, 1837

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      #314855 - 09/12/07 04:28 AM
welshsarah

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Hi Susan,

I'm trying to follow a vegan diet as well as the EFI diet and i've had to cut out wheat. Was just wondering if i could get some meal ideas off you? I'm fine with breakfast- it's just lunch and dinner that are problematic so would really appreciate some suggestions. Many thanks

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #314860 - 09/12/07 07:16 AM
BendeeWendee

Reged: 07/23/07
Posts: 392
Loc: Brooklyn, NY

Ugh, I know what you mean. I soooo miss red meat and being Hispanic, red meat is a HUGE part of any meal. I tried meatless vegan meats and can I just say BARF, no where near the real thing. Sigh.

Hang in there sista.

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      #314919 - 09/12/07 07:00 PM
blackrvn5

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I've found a great site vegweb.com which has tons of vegan recipes. Are you substituting gluten free products for pasta and flour? Something to add is Nutritional yeast flakes. It is full of B-12 vitamin which we miss out not eating meat. I add it to potatoes, popcorn, and pasta. For lunch I usually eat baked potatoes, bagels with peanut butter, left over pasta, or a veggie sub. Dinner I eat a lot of pasta, squash, eggplant,and rice.

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Susan
IBS-A, Gas, Pain, Reflux
"The first in time and the first in importance of the influences upon the mind is that of nature. Every day, the sun; and after sunset, night and her stars. Ever the winds blow; ever the grass grows."
Emerson, August 31, 1837

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #315076 - 09/15/07 10:19 PM
Sommer

Reged: 02/09/04
Posts: 283
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona USA

Thanks Wendy. Not that I would wish IBS on anyone, not even my worst enemy, but sometimes I do wish that my bf had similar dietary needs. My roomie finds it quite challenging, too. Most of the time my bf and I eat separately from our roomie (who also has this half-live-in bf; he's not a half bf lol, he's just staying here like 15 hrs a day, 7 days a week... and he just found out my dietary needs too when he offered to cook for us the other night); but our roomie has offered food to me that I can't eat *SIGH*, and so has her bf. My bf is trying to be a good sport about my diet, but I think he finds it frustrating too. You know half my time in the store is spent reading ingredients. Thanks again for listening. Hang in there, yourself, Wendy.

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #315078 - 09/15/07 10:27 PM
Sommer

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Tyvm Susan, very helpful tips. You are very right, we all have different triggers. I'm still learning mine. I think so far my definite triggers are dairy and egg yolks. To be honest I am not yet sure how badly, if at all, HFCS affects me. I see it in so many, many, many foods. I have made it a point to try to wean it out as much as possible. I think I became immediately afraid of it as soon as I heard/read about it possibly being bad. Perhaps I should calm down, lol! Actually MSG is something I'm having trouble weaning out, that's probably top on my list. So red and herbal tea is ok, that's simple enough to remember. Depending on how things go, I might 'test out' a food with HFCS and see how it goes....

Question: Are the vegan websites that you order from reasonable and do they carry tasty alternatives?

Thanks again.

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      #315079 - 09/15/07 10:29 PM
Sommer

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Nutritional Yeast Flakes? Can they be used in cooking or sprinkled on already cooked foods? I have always wanted to try them. Thanks!

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #315084 - 09/15/07 11:36 PM
JodieKG

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Sommer - I have the same trouble in the supermarket now! I go shopping with my bf and he's already down the end of the aisle looking back at me going, come on! and I'm frantically reading ingredients and thinking, thinking. It's so funny... and I finally catch up with him and all I've got to show for my efforts is another packet of noodles... sigh. But thankfully he's patient or he'd fire me from shopping trips altogether!

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #315085 - 09/15/07 11:49 PM
Sommer

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Loc: Phoenix, Arizona USA

Thanks for the advice, I will keep it in mind, for sure. Some of my costs are from experimenting with what works (what tastes right, what doesn't ruin a recipe, what doesn't give me attacks, etc.)

I am a bit concerned about the Smart Balance. I don't bake a lot but I bake often enough that it's important to me that my baked goods aren't ruined. I love using unsweetened applesauce to replace some or all of the oil in baked recipes, but you can't always replace butter or margarine in everything. I use it so often that I have to find the right spread to use that will be useful for anything that calls for butter or margarine. I've got err.. 16 oz of Smart Balance with Flaxseed Oil and I just re-read the ingredients/label. It states it's lactose and dairy-free (YAY!) and the ingredients seem fine to me too. Oh, you are so right, I just read the Smart Balance (regular) label and WHEY is in the first line of ingredients DOH how'd I miss that!? Glad there's only about 2 TBSP left of that stuff then I'll be starting on the Smart Balance with Flaxseed Oil. I don't remember how much fat there is in the Flaxseed Oil versus the Light, but I didn't see anything about the Flaxseed Oil kind separating due to higher water content. Thank you again, for the help.

Btw I usually spend 2-4 bucks on french bread per month because I buy the freshly baked loaves. Although regarding HFCS being in regular 'shelf' breads like just a typical white bread or anything else that isn't fresh from the bakery, I will probably stop freaking out over that, as I hardly ever noticed a problem with eating it before. I eat white rice or potatoes almost every day though, and those aren't usually that expensive at all, and I hardly ever get bored of those.

Thanks again!

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Re: Lots of questions, tea, graham crackers, candy, etc....oops LONG new
      #315086 - 09/15/07 11:50 PM
Sommer

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LOL Jodie! I totally hear ya, hehe.

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