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So, in the world of protein; how much fish do people eat? I find myself eating tuna at lunch and salmon at dinner, every day; now I love fish and could live on boney salmon but apparently 14 serves of oily fish a week could be a bit of an overdose and I might be eating too much mercury (so my friend warns me). As Tatyana has mentioned, soy seems to constipate...
But then the idea of chicken every day seems dodgy too because aren't they full of hormones/ antiobiotics ?? (if you can't afford the organic stuff).
I just feel so wobbly if I don't eat protein at lunch and dinner... what to do?? Is there something I'm missing.. egg whites, soy, fish, poultry, nuts... is too much fish really bad for you or am I getting worked up over nothing???
So many rules! So little time!
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The issue of consuming mercury in fish is something you should be aware of but not something to put you off fish forever. Different types of fish have different levels of mercury - crudely put, larger predator fish have more of it than smaller prey fish. So swordfish, for example, is high in mercury but flounder is not.
Here's a link to an old post I did. It contains links to some Websites that explain which fish are high in mercury and which aren't and provides guidelines for how much of the different kinds of fish you can eat and still be okay. The link to the American Heart Association website is particularly helpful because it gives specific recommended amounts per week to eat of the various fish - even the ones that are relatively high in mercury:
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(I strongly believe that if you are pregnant or nursing or planning to become pregnant, you should discuss this issue with your doctor regardless of what the various guidelines say. Similarly, these issues should be discussed with a child's pediatrician.)
So, no, eating fish 14 times a week is probably not a good idea even though the ones you're eating - salmon and tuna - are relatively low in mercury (assuming your tuna is light rather than white/albacore). Try some other fish especially ones like sole and flounder and don't forget about shellfish like shrimp and scallops.
I have never really worried about hormones in my chicken and when I checked around I discovered it has been illegal to use hormones in chicken production since the 1950s. Antibiotics are used but purportedly:
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Because the antibiotics used are not absorbed by the gut, they do not put antibiotics into the meat or eggs.
This quote is from Wikipedia which has a whole write-up on chicken production.
I get my morning protein from an egg white. For lunch, I eat a tuna sandwich, a pasta chicken grape salad, some type of hummus or other bean dip, soup with beans or chicken or milk substitute, dinner leftovers. For dinner, I'd say I eat fish once a week, shrimp once a week, something with ground turkey (burger, spaghetti sauce) twice a week, and chicken the other three nights of the week.
Don't forget about beans as a protein source. You could try a rice and bean dish. I've been told this is the perfect food because the nutrients in the rice "complete" the protein in the beans. I can't vouch for that but I do find rice and beans to be a most satisfying meal.
HTH.
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Sand, thank you so much for this clear information.. You're a real goldmine for info and ideas! Thank you again. 
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Hi, Rachel, welcome to the board. 
Most of my protein comes from boneless, skinless chicken breasts. Very soon, I will just morph into a chicken, that's how much I eat it, lol.
I don't always watch my protein intake... but I can almost always handle beans, and sometimes I eat beans such as in turkey chili.
Sorry, guess I wasn't much help there. 
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Hmm, nevermind, I'll actually soon morph into a Soy Chicken, if that makes any sense. Most of my diet consists of soy something and white meat chicken. I love tuna but don't eat it often. I hate salmon. I like other seafood like crab, lobster, scallops, and shrimp, and other whitefish like cod, tilapia and sole. I can't afford fish or seafood often, so I don't always get to eat it. I also can eat lean pork, and I eat ground turkey, lean pork, or boneless, skinless chicken breasts.
I have not really noticed if soy constipates me, to be honest, but I usually eat 1-2 servings of soy in some form or another.
I also enjoy white rice and rice noodles, sourdough and french bread, white bread, dried fruits, smoothies, soy yogurt, oatmeal, a variety of veggies, granola, and Multigrain Cheerios and multigrain hot cereal.
I think the bulk of my diet may consist of SF, lean or close to lean meat, veggies, fruits, fish/seafood... sort of in that order as to the ratios.
Dunno if any of that helps anyone.
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I've been following the diet (except for the 2 or 3 oz. of lactose free cheese) for about 4 months. Still waiting to find stable.
Well, if you cut out the dairy completely you might get the results you'd like. I understand that you don't want to give it up, but there are some really tasty substitutes, such as almond cheese. You might also find that once you remove that trigger, that you'll be better able to tolerate foods higher in IF, such as beans and other vegetables. Anyway, I totally understand how hard it is to give up certain foods. I still dream about eating real cheese! 
Lactose-free doesn't mean milk or dairy free either. And lactose intolerance isn't the same as IBS, although an IBS sufferer can also have lactose intolerance. I too, dream of real cheese, and my bf still eats it around me.
But I can handle Soysation soy cheese in small amounts at a time, although iirc, that one might have milk derivatives like casein in it.
Almond cheese is fantastic. (Just my opinion.)
But, I, too, have stuck very stubbornly to a few habits that are devastating to an IBS sufferer - smoking and drinking alcohol. I've cut out nearly every other huge trigger like caffeine and carbonated beverages to name but a few I've been trying to strictly stay away from (the list is long).
No one here is forcing anyone to stay on a certain diet or eating regimen. It's up to us to make that decision on our own, for our own good or bad. So if you choose to keep eating the lactose-free cheese, you can, but just realize that it's possible that it may be causing you to not get completely stable. Not trying to sound like I'm lecturing, just saying that this IBS board/website and the books and everyone's advice and experiences are here for us to learn from, but we don't have to take the advice if we are unable to or just don't want to. We just have to take responsibility for what we do/don't do in how our choices make us feel. That's what I say to myself sometimes when I'm debating whether to eat something I probably shouldn't.
Anyways, good luck, and take care.
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I did cut out dairy completely for the first two weeks. Then tried cheese. Waiting a while. Tried it again. Had no reaction directly to it that I could see. Maybe it's a building up factor. But there's so many weird things, I know we're all different. Like I try to eat a banana every day. However, when I made Heather's banana bread, I reacted to it. And yes, it was the bread. I even tried skipping a couple of days and then having it again and every time, I had D.
I decided last night to try calcium carbonate. This better help or I swear I'll go crazy.
I'm sorry to hear you're still having so much trouble.
It's a true pain trying to figure out what works for you. What's tough is when something that works for one person doesn't work for you and it just makes you feel more out of control and upset and depressed. Believe me, I hear where you are coming from. You are lucky you can handle lactose-free cheese! If I even look at lactose-free cheese I get a tummy ache. And if I overdo the soy cheese, I can end up reacting to that too due to the fat content and milk derivatives. Bleh!
*Hugs* to you. I haven't tried Heather's banana bread yet, but I have to be careful how I eat bananas.
I also have the habit of thinking "Oh, this food is IBS safe, I'll just have a couple more..." Then I realize I just finished off 5 of whatever it is and I'm in almost as much trouble as if I had eaten only 1 of an unsafe food.
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I am well aware of the difference between lactose intolerance and IBS. I have both. So the little cheese I do eat is always lactose free so I don't trigger the lactose problem.
Things just don't seem to make much sense. The whole banana bread thing: I used heather's recipe, I've cooked with canola oil before (and I don't even remember if her recipe calls for it) without problem. Bananas are a bit safety food for me (properly ripe). So why couldn't I tolerate the bread! Weird. I've loved the two other breads I made and had no problems.
Does anyone else eat the Barilla plus pasta? It has extra protein and fiber than the regular pasta. It's made from chickpeas, lentils and egg whites, semolina, oats, spelt and barley,ground flaxseed and wheat fiber. Everything is ground - no "whole" listed. I've been eating it since I started the EFI diet 5 months ago.
I'm going to a new GI doc tomorrow and I'm really hoping he can give me some answers, and help with getting my meds straightened out.
I know everyone is trying to help, but if I keep cutting things out, I'll have nothing left to eat and no source of protein. I will not start eating meat again. It's just not something I can do. Regular white pasta and white bread and white rice have almost no protein (or fiber of any kind). I have not been able to work in many foods even at this point.
The calcium carbonate worked like a dream for 3 weeks and then it was over. Cramps and pain full blown just like before. 3 days later, it's calmed down a bit, but I didn't do anything. I hate how unpredictable IBS can be.
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Re: IBSHell
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Have you ever had quinoa? I suggest it as a good IBS-friendly protein source. It's a type of grain (seed actually) that is considered a complete protein.
I buy quinoa flakes, and have it as a hot breakfast. 1/3cup quinoa flakes, just under 1 cup water, microwave for 2 mins and add some blueberries. Never had a problem with my tummy with it. You can also cook whole quinoa just like rice and use it as a side dish. And also there is quinoa flour if you're interested in baking with some. I've had no trouble finding all 3 forms of the quinoa at my health food store in the bulk bins and also in packaged boxes.
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