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#309113 - 06/15/07 10:00 AM
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if you are looking at a product that has calories from fat listed on the nutrition facts you don't have to do any muliplying. Just guestimate how much calories from fat there are compared to the rest of the calories. So luna bars contain 40 calories from fat and 180 calories so right away you can see it is less than 25% (4x40 is 160 and there are 20 more calories). the actual amount is 22%. Easy 
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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That would be too high. I don't understand where that fat is coming from anyway when oil is so far down on the list. But remember that with rice and vegetables with no added fat that would even out the fat from the calamari.
I eat about 25% fat with each meal if possible. Remember it is fat per meal not per day! I also feel I am pretty sensitive to fats too and up to 30% is okay for me usually. I figure out fat percentage by a rough guess when away from the calculator. I just mulitply the fat grams by 10 instead of 9 and guestimate that into the calories.
500 calorie meal guess it has 20 grams of fat x10=200 compared to 500 it is less than half but too close to be safe. Actual percentage 36%.
Remember though our diet is not supposed to be fat free! Don't have meals of plain rice, plain vegetable and almost fat free breast; put some margarine or nuts or something on there to give our bodies the needed fat to make digestion work and so we don't store fat.
I agree...I could never do 10-15%, that is way too restrictive for anything mainstream.
I find 25% works fine for me, up to 33%.
I really don't see how the dish here is all that excessive.
It has 35 grams of fat per 1000 calorie serving
35X9=315
315/1000=31.5%
That is barely higher than 25%, less than 33%, I am sensitive to fat, and I find 31% to be in the light yellow caution area, nothing taboo like 50% fat.
I don't understand, am I missing something, 32% seems to be moderate at worst, nothing severe.
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I don't know what is in the "sichuan sauce" at the end. Also how can it be 1000 calories?! 
Well IMO if you eat that with rice it would be fine. I am still not sure what the meal is really like. It doesn't explain where the fat grams are coming from. If it was me I would eat half and have it with rice. Too much food/calories at once is a trigger for me.
The other thing I think some would have a problem with is the spicy factor, but not all have problems with spicy. And since some people here eat HFCS we shouldn't tell others not to eat spicy. 
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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I believe that it is a big restaraunt portion.
In other words, divide it in half.
Though I've not eaten it in awhile, when I did I used to eat about half, mix it with white rice.
You think that would be safe?
I believe the fat comes from the sauce.
Again it's 32% calories from fat, I thought if ate 1/2 to 3/4s tops at a good pace you'd be fine, seems within the limits.
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I think so if
1. the nutrition facts are without rice
2. the sauce mentioned at the end is not additional but is just the ingredients already listed. The way it is asterisked at the end makes me think this sauce has another set of ingredients.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Here is the menu:
http://www.pfchangs.com/cuisine/menu_main.jsp
The steamed rice is listed separately.
The asterisk information for the sauce:
* Sauces - The ingredients used to make all of our sauces are proprietary information. Should you have dietary concerns and need specific information regarding these sauces, please ask to speak with a Manager or Chef on your next visit to P.F. Chang's.
I'm not sure what's in the sauces, but they usually don't seem very oily like some chinese restaurants and I believe they don't use MSG.
Personally I have problems every time I go there, so I would eat there very carefully if you are not sure if you can handle it.
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Lisa
IBS-A, Interstitial Cystitis, Migraines
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#309235 - 06/17/07 01:49 PM
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atomic rose
Reged: 06/01/04
Posts: 7013
Loc: Maine (IBS-A stable since July '05!)
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Against my better judgment, I have a couple things to say.
15% is not "too restrictive". I eat that easily, on a wonderfully healthy diet of fresh produce, lean protein, and whole grains, which is how everyone should eat. Mind you, my 15% is more of a daily guideline than a per-meal, and I do occasionally splurge. But I don't eat junk, and I certainly don't eat crap with mystery ingredients from restaurants (and yes, I DO eat out, actually). You do not need to have that stuff in your diet, and it's really super freaking easy to avoid it.
I am stable and have been for two years so far, so obviously I'm doing SOMETHING right.
Also, 31.5% is not "barely" more than 25%. I'm not normally one to argue semantics, but in the world of IBS, 6.5% is a BIG difference.
Since you already have what you consider to be a "safe" fat percentage range for yourself, and you've done the math, and it falls within your range, I'm guessing that what you really want is for people to tell you to eat it. So, I recant my previous answer... go ahead and eat it. Knock yourself out.
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Re: Okay
#309276 - 06/18/07 07:15 AM
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tanawana
Reged: 02/22/07
Posts: 17
Loc: youngstown, OH
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15% is not "too restrictive". I eat that easily, on a wonderfully healthy diet of fresh produce, lean protein, and whole grains, which is how everyone should eat. Mind you, my 15% is more of a daily guideline than a per-meal, and I do occasionally splurge. But I don't eat junk, and I certainly don't eat crap with mystery ingredients from restaurants (and yes, I DO eat out, actually). You do not need to have that stuff in your diet, and it's really super freaking easy to avoid it.
Glad to hear someone follows what I do 
I was feeling all alone there 
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