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I'm with Flipada, too. -nt- new
      #301090 - 03/01/07 08:42 AM
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Re: milk (message for Jeio) new
      #301093 - 03/01/07 08:50 AM
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I'm IBS-C. You're asking a good question. It could b e that milk keeps things moving, and would cause D for D-ers? I don't know... I know IF you are lactose intolerant, it causes gas and D...



The idea behind Heather's guidelines is to soothe the gut regardless of whether you have D or C. Dairy is difficult to digest because of the lactose and because of the proteins so it will not soothe the gut. Even if drinking milk got a Cer moving, it would be at the possible cost of further annoying an already cranky gut.

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Rice milk is prescribed as a constipating agent in Eastern Europe (at least what I know about it). ...

Maybe we eastern Europeans have something that causes us to be constipated by things like rice milk, LOL. Seriously, though, they gave me that when I was a little kid with D (when I was sick with something) and it worked much better than when they gave me carbon. It tasted pretty gross, though, LOL




In the US, children with diarrhea are often put on the BRAT Diet for a short time - bananas, rice, applesauce, toast. As I understand it, it's not that those foods are constipating but rather that they are neutral. That is, they don't annoy the digestive tract. Or, as we say around here, they're Soluble Fiber. Perhaps that's the thinking behind giving children rice milk when they have diarrhea.

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Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk... new
      #301096 - 03/01/07 08:57 AM
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Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...Oops! (m) new
      #301098 - 03/01/07 09:01 AM
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Oops! Thanks - I edited the post. Milk on the brain, I guess.

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Re: milk (message for Jeio) new
      #301102 - 03/01/07 10:18 AM
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Dairy is difficult to digest because of the lactose and because of the proteins so it will not soothe the gut.




I get the lactose conceptu but I have not seen any research evidence that proteins in milk are more difficult to digest that proteins in any other food source. A previous posting suggests that this may not be the case

Could you provide us with some research evidence for this conclusion?


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Re: Rice milk does NOT cause C!Lisa new
      #301104 - 03/01/07 10:23 AM
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As I mentioned in one of my above posts, I've tried several different brands, and Pacific is by far the best. It's creamier than the others (rice milk tends to be watery compared to soy milk). The vanilla low fat kind tastes great!! I love it on dry cereal. I've even converted my husband to it from regular milk and THAT was a challenge, let me tell you! He was very stubborn until he actually tried it and realized how good it tastes.

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Re: milk (message for Jeio) new
      #301107 - 03/01/07 11:09 AM
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[I have not seen any research evidence that proteins in milk are more difficult to digest that proteins in any other food source. ...

Could you provide us with some research evidence for this conclusion?




Nope. I'm quoting Heather whose Website this is, whose guidelines the Diet Board is about, and whose approach has worked for me.

We've gone round and round on the scientific versus anecdotal/experiential stuff before, Syl, dating back to your very first post. It seems to me a pointless exercise.

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Re: Good post, Flipada. I agree with you! -nt- new
      #301110 - 03/01/07 11:17 AM
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Re: milk BRAT is Bananas, Rice, Applesauce & Toast not milk...Oops! (m) new
      #301114 - 03/01/07 11:30 AM
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, I just didn't want anyone to get overly excited about milk.......lol

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Re: milk (message for Jeio) new
      #301115 - 03/01/07 11:32 AM
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History is littered with anecdotal evidence that has been disproved by scientific research (which is experimental).

I guess as usually we shall continue to disagree

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