trapped gas suddently appears?
#286215 - 10/12/06 04:40 PM
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Does anyone find that trapped gas just creeps up on them out of the blue - I have been eating pretty much safe foods during the last two days and yets trapped gas has appeared? I am wondering if it has as much to do with stres as the diet? Debbie IBS_C
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Absolutely! This happens to me quite frequently. I practically live on gas-x and beeno which help but it's still very frustrating.
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This is my first post to this group and I can't believe how many people are experiencing the same symptoms as me. I felt alone until tonight. I am sick of the bloating, embarrassing gas and the abdominal pain. I feel like everything I eat causes me pain and gives me lot of gas (which doesn't go anywhere!). I have terrible C and bloating all the time. I was really laughing when I read the "I miss pooping" threads... I'm not alone!!!
Jules, I get that 'moveable' gas that you describe. Have you found anything that works? I have tried heating pads, yoga and gas-x... nothing seems to consistently work. Yoga seems to be the best but only if its a long session.
To help increase regularity, I've tried Metamucil and drank heaps of water but that doesn''t work either. Just more gas and still no BM. I exercise regularly... at least 45 mins a day of biking, I eat healthy and I just can't shake this. I've seen doctors and they tell me I have IBS-C... and lactose intolerant. I read ingredients of everything and somehow I still end up with a bad tummy.
Anyhow, enough of my complaining... its nice to hear other people are feeling the same as me.
I think I'll try Milk of Magnesium next... seems as though I've tried everything else.
Good luck everyone.
Namaste.
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Hi, Karen_J, welcome to the group!
I have tried Milk of Magnesia and it didn't work at all for me. Now I am trying Natural Calm (by which so many people here are swearing) and we shall see how this works, cause otherwise I am on Miralax (a prescription laxative) and don't want to be on it all my life.
My simptoms were pretty much like yours, however the Miralax helps only with the C I think, gas was still there until I discovered beano (thanks to this board!). Beano doesn't take care of ALL the gas, however it generally reduces its quantity greatly (I mean it only works for beans, and several other things, right?).
If you are lactose intollerant, are you eating any milk or other dairy products? Because that's how lactose intollerance manifests itself -- with lots and lots of gas. You can try eliminating dairy and see what happens. Eliminating dairy is a magor part of the diet this board is all about -- it's Heather's Eating for IBS diet. Are you familiar with that? If not, just look around the site www.helpforibs.com (not the message boards, rather the site itself) and you might find that it's what you are eating that is causing your problems.
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I've recently discovered that Digestive Enzymes make my world a wonderul place.
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What brand and how many do you take with your meals? Do you take them with snacks too?
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or at least I've got my fingers crossed so far.
5 days with very minor symptoms.
Edited by andreww (10/18/06 06:22 PM)
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Thank you Andrew! How many do you take with meals and snacks?
Can I ask, do you take an SFS? they seem to be increasing my gas big time. 
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Hey Jordy, I like Andrew, take the GNC "Multi Enzymes" I started about 6 weeks ago---I have NOT had any IBS symptoms since. I take 2 capsules before my meal. I also take the Primal Defense Probiotic once in the am when I get up and just before bed. Both work best on an empty stomach. I have normal bathroom times now, and gas and pain have gone. I think most people have trouble digesting food because the natural enzymes in our food are broken down when cooked. Processed foods are esp. difficult to digest. If you take any meds or have taken antibiotics in your life, I strongly suggest purchasing both...you need to replenish your own enzyme stores as well as good bacterial flora. Good luck!
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#286991 - 10/18/06 08:31 PM
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I just ordered the Primal Defense (was previously taking acidophilus and culturelle..small amounts). How do the digestive enzymes work? I take the Acacia with each meal. Do you really think that adding the digestive enzymes will really help? (I'm IBS-D) I'm feeling relief already (about a month into this) but honestly, I really don't feel like adding one more thing to take/carry/remember into my day unless it will really make a difference. Thanks.
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Well, about Digestive Enzymes, I just tried taking a dairy enzyme supplement (not just lactase but also the other things: protease, celulase, etc) and it does help (I am not lactose intollerant, however dairy is a trigger for me... it makes me sick... but I still love it).
I'd say try them and you will know for yourself. Are they expensive? Maybe I should try them myself...
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Hi...I bought the Multi-Enzyme Formula from GNC because I had a friend recommend digestive enzymes to me. There are 10 different enzymes in the bottle I buy ($17 for 120 capsules) I save 20% if I buy from them during the first week of every month (gold card membership) I don't normally like to support chains, franchises but I live in an area where small independent HFS are a rarity!
Regarding the question about whether they are worth it, I cannot believe the improvement in my health...and neither can my husband or friends. I am still getting used to not having to cut my social dates short, or wake up feeling nauseated and bloated every morning...The Primal Defense has made every morning a "regular" morning, much to my relief! I still take acacia--I just add it to my oatmeal, or my hot meal at lunch or dinner. The enzymes and the probiotics seem to work together, so I would definitely recommend both. It's not just to aid in your IBS, people without IBS take them too. I think with all of the toxins and pollutants in our environment, esp. in regard to our food sources, I think our digestive systems can be very compromised. The enzymes and probiotics can restore some of that...I always prefer the natural method because I don't always think doctors have all the answers. I recently had a colonoscopy done (nothing found) and the GI asked me about the prescription he wrote for me, and I replied "I haven't needed it...I started digestive enzymes." He looked at me rather shocked that I haven't needed immodium or anything, but said "If it's working for you, great...continue!" 
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I was IBS-D...never thought it would change. I would have D every day, sometimes more...gas , major bloat and always anxious over an attack in public. Not fun! So, yes...Digestive Enzymes have been incredible for me...you take them before your meal (no waiting to eat) on an empty stomach. I didn't think they'd work (skeptic here) I was pleasantly surprised! I still can't believe it!
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Thank you for the clarification, very useful.
The only thing I am worried about: doesn't taking the enzymes make your organism lazy in the sense that it would stop producing its own enzymes in the quantities it used to, because you are introducing these digestive enzymes...
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Jerry, IBS-C
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First, we humans begin digestion through our mouths, and most people (myself included) never chew the 30-50 times it takes to make the food a liquid so it's digested properly. Second, although we begin digestion in the mouth and also have some enzymes in the stomach, it's the pancreas that does most of the enzyme work. Our bodies do indeed have enzymes within to help break down food, however, enzyme function diminishes with age. By taking the enzymes, we can allow our pancreas to rest, repair and return to a normal level of functioning.
Cooking food destroys all the natural enzymes in our food--raw, uncooked food has them, but few of us can adhere to a raw food diet. By adding the digestive enzymes to our diet, we can assimilate our nutrients better. Some people argue that our pancreas has a predetermined amount of enzymes...I don't know if this is correct. Once you take the enzymes for a while, who knows...you may be able to stop as your pancreas is permitted to "heal." I prefer to take them as I eat quickly, don't always eat the "perfect" foods, and cannot eat raw foods regularly. Try the site http://pages.prodigy.net/naturedoctor/enzymes.html
There are some more detailed answers in clear language...
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Yeah, I have major bloating and gas out of no where. I am newly diagnosed and still trying to get my symptoms under better control. Mornings are the worst for me and I have been ULTRA stressed out lately due to all the medical stuff I have been going through.
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How much Acacia do you take?
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My dairy enzyme is like a normal capsule. I suppose the GNC's are the same (long but not horsepillish)
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Thank you!
I don't chew too much either. Thanks a lot for the web page too.
Blessings
Jerry, IBS-C
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The "Multi Enzyme Formula" does NOT need refridgeration...I asked the guy at GNC...I take mine with me--I haven't had any problems!
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They are like acidophilus...no horse pills and easy to swallow! (I can't stand those gigantic yellow vitamin equine pills either!)
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I take 1.5 teaspoon with my oatmeal, and then try to get in another 1.5 teaspoon in lunch or dinner. I prefer mixing it in with hot food. I have never really grown accustomed to the little blobs in my chocolate soy milk...the hot option works better for me. How much have you been using?
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perhaps the enzymes will work for you as well. it took me 20 years of unbearable pain to find them. I hope it doesn't take you very long at all to find your answer, whatever it may be. following heather's advice may be what's best or perhaps it's one of the many courses of treatment people here have found that works best for them. good luck!
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I take 2 after meal, but after reading Lumiere's posts, maybe I should reverse that.
What's SFS? Soluble Fiber Supplement? If so, no, but I am still taking the meds my doctor prescribed (Zelnorm and Lepvid). I may give them up since they didn't seem to work very well.
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#287201 - 10/20/06 07:28 AM
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SFS=Soluble Fiber Supplement...such as Acacia, citrucel, benefiber....you get the picture!
How long have you been on Zelnorm? It stopped working for me after about 2 weeks. 
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I'm up to 5 tsp a day.
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OK, I think in Heather's recommendations you are ok up to 4 tablespoons, and can have whatever amount up to that to stabilize--everyone's amounts vary.
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I don't normally take them with snacks--although if you are going to eat a forbidden food you take your chances! I haven't taken enzymes with stuff like fruit, veg (carrots, celery etc) basically because these are raw foods (enzymes intact) I take them with my cooked meals or something I know I have difficulty digesting. Hope this clarifies!
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I kind of think increasing is causing increased Constipation. 
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Everyone is different--and we all take the amount that get us stabilized. You don't need to increase if you feel better with say, 2 tsps a day, or 3 tablespoons a day, or whatever amount UP to 4 tablespoons. I take a total of 3 tsps a day...I found I didn't need any more. Also, you probably are already aware, but you need to break up the dosage, that's why I do 1.5 tsp in a.m. and 1.5 tsp in p.m. You can search acacia dosages and stabilization...there may be more info than I can give you. Good Luck!
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I just bought the GNC Multi enzymes last night and took them before dinner. This morning, I forgot to take them before I ate so I took 2 afterwards. Is that pointless or should I still have taken them?
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No, it wasn't pointless, because they still aid in digestion. They work at their optimum on an empty tummy, though. It helps to remember by keeping them on the table. (I would NEVER remember if they weren't sitting in front of me) or if my signifcant other never reminded me...he's good at that because he sees such a big improvement in my health now!
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Andrew and Lumiere, is this the one you take? GNC
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I was taking the GNC digestive enzymes and wasn't going to post about it, but as long as the thread came up....Just wanted to ask again....
I started the enzymes at the same time I started Primal Defensea few weeks ago...I know they are 2 different types of supplements used for different reasons. But I wound up stopping both and just going back to the Acacia because I was having so many bowel movements and after a week I gave up b/c the "cleaning me out" was interfering with my life and causing me IBS stress again. So now I'm doing pretty good on the acacia and down the road I may go back to trying the enzymes again. (I know I probably didn't give the PD enough time, but it was really upsettin gmy stomach) Some people sort of answered this already, but since both of you take the GNCs...have they ever caused frequent bms or d? I was thinking maybe I would take them before more difficult to digest foods (not triggers...just maybe when trying to add more new IF in a few weeks). My diet is still pretty safe right now. Thanks.
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Jory, I found that when I took too much Acacia I had the opposite problem, more D. I am now taking a bladder pill, Vesicare, and it has caused some C so I've just begun to increase my Acacia to help things along. I now take 1T + 1t twice a day. But I just started to increase last week, no big change yet.
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Let me know if increasing helps the C, okay? I was afraid increasing the fiber was clogging me up more...if that makes sense. Isn't that a possibility? I am drinking enough though.
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Hi line415, I am sorry your body was having a hard time adjusting...I understand about the IBS stress being exacerbated with more BMs. I would still take 2 enzymes if you were having a heavier meal, or when you are out at a restaurant. I did find with the enzymes that my BMs were no where near D, they were back to normal--like my body had been able to digest the nutrients and the food just wasn't escaping my system (with lots of D) without the enzymes. I needed the probiotic, and will continue with it, as I have been on the pill on & off for 15 years,(my intestinal tract needs the probiotic.) The acacia is a prebiotic, so it works synergistically. I can be regular every a.m. with all 3...You may find bloating, gas etc subsides the times you take the enzymes. Your body may not need them every meal time, and if you feel a little off (IBS bugging you) I would go ahead and take them. Yes, those are the ones I take. You may need to introduce less things to your body. I started with the PD, and 6 weeks later added the enzymes. Prior to that I had been taking acacia for 2 months, and as we IBSers know....stabilization takes a while!  Good Luck...
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I'll post if this is helping or not. I've never been a C in my life so it's very confusing for me. From reading all the C's posts I know it takes awhile for the Acacia to start to help. I'm trying to be patient.
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Did you check out my post? Just wondering if that's the kind you all are taking.
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Can you check out the GNC lind to see if that is the one you take?
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Yes...I checked it and it is the one, but I only took it for a week or so and stopped so remember I'm not a reliable source!! 
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Let me know if increasing helps the C, okay? I was afraid increasing the fiber was clogging me up more...if that makes sense. Isn't that a possibility? I am drinking enough though.
Just wanted to let you know that increasing the acacia stopped my C...more than I like.  I'm decreasing it to 1T + 1/2 t (2x a day) to see if I stop running to the bathroom. I don't have D just quite a few movements the last 2 days.
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