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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...you should ask everyone in the Living Room new
      #281184 - 09/07/06 10:50 AM
Mary_V

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This is very interesting. I wonder if anyone in the Living Room has had a similar experience. You could post there too. There are generally more experienced IBS people there. Or you could do a poll about crunches and exercise in general...how it affects IBS.

Maybe I'll have to experiment at some point. I'm having surgery for rectal prolapse in 2 weeks (yea!!), so I'm not changing anything before that. I'm just maintaining for now and see how much improvement that causes. But I won't be able to do crunches while I recover, so I guess that's when I can test it.

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...you should ask everyone in the Living Room new
      #281187 - 09/07/06 10:54 AM
shandy

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Never been to the living room... have to check it out.

Okay, TELL ME MORE about your surgery! Not to get too personal(ha!). I think I might have that problem too??? Tell me as much as you can stand!

Jennifer

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...you should ask everyone in the Living Room new
      #281193 - 09/07/06 11:43 AM
Mary_V

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I don't have time to write about it now. You can search for my other posts. I have written some about it before. Or you can email me if you have specific questions: jmvoogt@comcast.net. Basically if something is "coming out" when you push to have a bm, that's rectal prolapse. There are other kinds of prolapse as well, but that's the one I have.

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~Mary
Had surgery for rectal prolapse in Sept. '06 and feeling good now! Loving life with our IVF miracle #1.



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Re: IBS and Sit-ups??? new
      #281210 - 09/07/06 12:41 PM
Jaz

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Hi,

Wow. I'm new to this site and finding all sorts of info. I work out 5 days a week, and I've noticed that I'm bloated after exercising, whether it's cardio or strength training. I don't want to give it up becuase it helps with stress/anxiety. I'll pay more attention to my tummy bloat, pre/post situps.

Jaz
IBS-D

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups??? new
      #281283 - 09/08/06 06:48 AM
tummalarkey

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I feel the same way about the gas. Exercise gets it moving and then it can't get out. That's when I really have problems.

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Exercise stimulates the bowel new
      #281286 - 09/08/06 06:55 AM
Syl

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Generally speaking moderate exercise stimulates the bowel. I notice it when I walk, swim and bicycle however, it has never caused an IBS attack even though I can feel it.

"Exercise, such as walking every day, also helps. Even a small amount of movement, such as walking in the house, helps stimulate muscles like the bowel."

http://www.hmc.psu.edu/hematology/homeguide/constipation.htm

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...PROLAPSE INFO new
      #281288 - 09/08/06 07:16 AM
Mary_V

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Jennifer,

There are several different kinds of prolapse. I have rectal prolapse...basically the rectum falls down and starts coming out. There are others that involve the rectum, bladder, and vagina...rectocele, enterocele, cystocele...not sure which is which. You can look them up. They are all different, though. And you can have more than one. I only have rectal prolapse. I was diagnosed by a colon/rectal surgeon. He did a rectal exam and had me push while sitting on the toilet. It's a pretty simple diagnosis. The other ones require further testing to find. With a rectal prolapse you can feel something coming out when you push. For me, that's what causes the C and trapped stuff. The rectum is in the way and just doesn't let things through. It gradaully gets worse as the day goes on because the rectum falls more and more throughout the day. I think when I sleep it slides back a bit, so in the morning it's not quite as bad...some stuff will actually move out. But by evening everything feels so trapped. I can feel the gas actually pushing on my rectum but it can't break through. It's like the rectum plugs the hole. Not fun!! The main symptom is that you can actually feel something coming out. Other than that some symptoms are mucus...sometimes that's all that can squeeze through, and going mulitple times a day but not feeling like you got everything out.

My surgery is on Sept. 22. It's pretty major. They make an incision in your abdomen, remove a piece of your colon, and reattach the rectum. I'll be in the hospital for about a week, then I will be recovering for at least 4 weeks. I'm not looking forward to that, but I can't wait to feel better...and not have that in the way anymore! If you really think this is a problem, you should see a colon surgeon for anything involving the recutm and a GYN for the other kinds. HTH. Feel free to ask any more questions.

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Had surgery for rectal prolapse in Sept. '06 and feeling good now! Loving life with our IVF miracle #1.



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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...PROLAPSE INFO new
      #281290 - 09/08/06 07:40 AM
shandy

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Loc: Alabama

That is incredibly helpful (but I feel so bad for you!). Let me tell you my situation and see if it sounds like the same thing...

I have a BM every single day - no problem there. But it doesn't all come out - there's stuff trapped in there - right inside that no amount of pushing, straining or cursing will move. So, for years, I've had to either dig it out myself (used to gross me out, but now it's just one of those things) or use a glycerin suppository or an enema. I can feel something in there like a big hump, but not knowing what the rectum is supposed to feel like, just assumed it was part of the structure.

Also, this is kind of weird(?) but anytime a doctor or other health practitioner (colon hydrotherapist, etc) has inserted something in my bum, they always "miss". There seems to be an indentation right above the real hole that they always try to access first - I wonder if that could be part of a structural abnormality?

Anyway, I always assumed that this "incomplete evacuation" problem was directly related to the IBS issues, but maybe not!? Or are they somehow related - that maybe since feces doesn't move smoothly through the tube, so to speak, it jams things up throughout the system???

I can't believe the surgery is so intense!! Oh My! I sure hope it goes well for you. A week in the hospital...I can't imagine.

I assume if you have IBS that your food requirements are somewhat strict? How do you handle hospital food? I've always wondered... If I eat anything processed, I suffer greatly.

Jennifer

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups??? new
      #281295 - 09/08/06 08:00 AM
Ulrika

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Loc: Uppsala, Sweden

I'm coming in a bit late here but...

My sister has IBS-C and she says that when she is bloated and has more gas she can't do any type of movements of foreward bend type and crunches would fit in this category I guess.

If you get gas or feel like the gas is trapped and doesn't want to come out though I recommend trying the wind relieving exercises in yoga, you can do it with right leg up first and then left leg or both legs at a time and you can try to wiggle gently from side to side or and back and forth. (See the Yoga for IBS link for picture of wind relieving exercise with one leg at a time.) These exercises really work for us anyway.


/Ulrika, IBS-D

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Re: IBS and Sit-ups...PROLAPSE INFO new
      #281296 - 09/08/06 08:02 AM
Mary_V

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Loc: Grandville, MI

I would suggest getting checked out. It can't hurt. I'm not a doctor, so I can't give you a yes or no. These can be symptoms of IBS, but not necessarily. Like I said, the main symptom is that 'something' comes out when you push. Try feeling or looking (w/ a mirror) the next time you have a BM...or are straining. Is there something protruding? That is a prolapse. There are different degrees, and at some stages it is still all internal. So, just because there isn't something coming out doesn't mean you don't have some kind of prolapse. I would have a Dr. check it out if you really want to know. If he says no, then you know and can move on. But if he says yes, there is a way to fix it!

You could just have regular old IBS w/ C. In that case, you just have to figure out what works for you. I do have to add that I think I do have some IBS as well. It's not just the prolapse. But I think the prolapse is a big part of it...and maybe part of what caused my IBS. My other big factor is stress/anxiety. I'm seeing a psychologist right now for that. And I have done the hypno program. I think the combination of therapy and surgery will make a huge improvement in how I feel. Since a lot of my problem is truly physical, I tend to eat a lot more IF than a lot of IBS people do. I try not to eat too much starchy/processed foods. I mostly eat fruits and veggies.

I am super nervous about hospital food. I've never had to stay in the hospital before. I plan to tell them that I have a restricted diet. I think you can work with a nutritionist. I can't eat some of the basic things they usual start you on...like broth and jello. MSG is one of my worst triggers. Most broth has MSG. And jello contains gelatin...a hidden source of MSG. So I'll have to figure something out.

What does processed food do to you? Does it slow things down? Does it cause spasms? Spasms/trapped gas are my worst IBS symptom. I hope they get better after surgery.

Gotta go. I hope this helps.

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~Mary
Had surgery for rectal prolapse in Sept. '06 and feeling good now! Loving life with our IVF miracle #1.



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