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Re: Soy--Good or Bad? new
      #279520 - 08/22/06 01:15 PM
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Thanks for the links. Good info.

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No simple answer new
      #279564 - 08/22/06 06:23 PM
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From a digestibility point of view soy, egg whites, casein, milk and whey have a digestibility of 1.0 measured using the 'Protein Digestibility Corrected Amino Acid Score'(PDCAAS). This is a method of evaluating the protein quality based on the amino acid requirements of humans. Things like beans, peanuts, beef and lentils are not as digestible and have PDCAAS between 0.52 and 0.68.

http://www.jssm.org/vol3/n3/2/v3n3-2pdf.pdf



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Soy is a BEAN.... new
      #279686 - 08/23/06 06:13 PM
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And it is one of the hardest beans to digest! My friend was in accupuncture school, and the whole class tested food allergies. They did this by eating only white rice for a few days, then slowly adding in a new food a day and seeing how their bodies reacted to it. Apparently, 90% of the class was allergic to soy!! I for one cannot tolerate it. It makes me bloated and gassy.... Even Luna Bars mess me up! So just remember, soy is a bean and a hard bean to digest!
Also, I notice that a LOT of soy products have A LOT of ingrediants. I try to eat as many "whole foods" as possible. It seems the safest to me on many many levels. Even though some of those products taste awesome (I love fakin' bacon by Morning Star Farms), I don't think they're much better than other processed foods!

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Re: Soy--Good or Bad? new
      #279692 - 08/23/06 06:25 PM
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It really depends on your body. I know that for women it is highly subjective. Most people say that soy is great for hormones but it threw mine completely out of whack and made my PMS an absolute nightmare. I finally left it alone.

Speaking of PMS: Does anyone else find that it makes their IBS worse? How do you deal?

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What do you mean by "whole foods"?-nt new
      #279693 - 08/23/06 06:28 PM
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Re: What do you mean by "whole foods"?-nt new
      #279713 - 08/23/06 08:49 PM
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What I mean by whole foods is foods as close to their natural source as possible. Not processed, very few ingredients. So I'd rather eat a soup I make myself with carrots, potatoes, spinach, etc, then a soup I bought from the store with tons of ingredients that I don't even understand. Does that make sense? There is a book called Healing with Whole Foods. It's all about eating foods that are natural and not processed.

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Re: What do you mean by "whole foods"?-nt new
      #279745 - 08/24/06 06:54 AM
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Thanks, I thought you meant you ate raw foods.

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Check out the "That time of the month" thread... -nt- new
      #279815 - 08/24/06 10:58 AM
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In regards to previous posts about soy being good or bad new
      #288957 - 11/03/06 07:16 PM
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I have never done any research, but have always heard the commercialized messages that soy is good for you. I just read through this interesting previous thread about soy and its pros and cons. What I'm hearing is that if you can tolerate it, it is good for you. Is that correct? In other words, pre-Heather I never touched an ounce of soy in my life. Now I drink Soyfee (brewed soybeans) EVERY morning, have soy milk in my oatmeal, and make smoothies out of soy milk. Those are the daily staples and then I might add some more if I make something requiring a dairy alternative. I am tolerating it extremely well. So am I becoming healthier for it? (besides improving the IBS) Or is there such a thing as "too much of a good thing?" with soy? Also, I know that the soy milks often say, "not suitable as infant formula." I was wondering if soy is beneficial for children too (toddler/preschooler). I have been sharing my smoothies with them (which has been a great way to get them to eat some fruits they dislike) and I was wondering if using milk instead of soy milk at their age would be better. Any thoughts? thanks.

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Re: In regards to previous posts about soy being good or bad new
      #288962 - 11/03/06 08:58 PM
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Quote:

I have never done any research, but have always heard the commercialized messages that soy is good for you. I just read through this interesting previous thread about soy and its pros and cons. What I'm hearing is that if you can tolerate it, it is good for you. Is that correct? In other words, pre-Heather I never touched an ounce of soy in my life. Now I drink Soyfee (brewed soybeans) EVERY morning, have soy milk in my oatmeal, and make smoothies out of soy milk. Those are the daily staples and then I might add some more if I make something requiring a dairy alternative. I am tolerating it extremely well. So am I becoming healthier for it? Personally, I'm not sure, but as long as you find it a suitable IBS sub for dairy I don't see any harm. (besides improving the IBS) Or is there such a thing as "too much of a good thing?" with soy? Oh I'm sure there is, as with anything. Also, I know that the soy milks often say, "not suitable as infant formula." I was wondering if soy is beneficial for children too (toddler/preschooler). Here is where I may be able to help you with WHY that has been put on labels. Here is a VERY old, 2004 post that you may want to read throughout, plus all the good replies. I have been sharing my smoothies with them (which has been a great way to get them to eat some fruits they dislike) and I was wondering if using milk instead of soy milk at their age would be better. If it's very little it probably doesn't hurt but if you don't want them to have soy or dairy then you could always use a rice or nut milk alternative. I happen to like the nut milk alternatives so much better than the rice, especially the Almond and Hazelnut ones. Hope this helps a little, and welcome to the boards. Heather's diet is amazing, isn't it?
Kandee
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