IBS Has Become A Lot Worse, Any Tips?
#277405 - 08/06/06 07:27 PM
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My IBS has not been this bad for almost a year.
In the last week and a half it has reached a point where I feel completely destable.
It is not so much that food is causing me problems, as after eating I don't feel any different.
I am following Heather's guideline.
I simply am feeling more c, bloated.
When I do go to the bathroom I feel little relief, and in fact get more bloated after going.
This used to happen to me way back when I first began treating IBS and I was told this indicted I was c.
I am taking Benefiber.
I was on Xifaxan for 10 days.
I have been under a lot of stress lately, and it has been humid.
Do you have any clue as to why it has gotten worse and what I can do to alleivate?
Would switching to Cirucell from Benefiber do much if at all?
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I can't speak to switching fibers (Benefiber is all I've ever used for powders), but I know my stomach is more dodgy under extra stress OR humidity, let alone both.
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I hope someone is reading this- I am new and I can't seem to find anything that says"post new thread" How do I post a message on this forum- sorry to butt in but I saw someone was looking here.
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If you are in the top level of one of the message boards, there is a heading that says "post." It's in the blue bar at the top. That's how you post a new message. You can't do it from inside a thread/post. You can only reply there.
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I also get more bloated right after I have a BM (I am C predominant). It makes no sense. I always bloat after I eat, but why right after a BM. I'm sorry you feel lousy, I just always feel it's important to share w/others when we have the same symptoms so you know you aren't alone & maybe someday we'll find connections for cause. Just FYI, dietarily I get the most relief just eating milky/sugary things.. ice cream, yogurt etc.. Nothing hard in there todigest if you aren't lactose intolernat.
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dietarily I get the most relief just eating milky/sugary things.. ice cream, yogurt etc.. Nothing hard in there todigest if you aren't lactose intolernat.
actually ALL DAIRY is a trigger for those with IBS, whether you're lactose intollerant or not. dairy should be 100% avoided by those on this diet. there are quite a lot of things in dairy that are hard to digest for IBS guts (check out the page on 'triggers' for more info on that if you're not sure why  )
on the other hand, I find that small amounts of sugar (real sugar, not artificial sweeteners, which are triggers!) can help calm my stomach down a bit during/after an attack.
but stay away from dairy!
and to the original poster (Naturapanic) - stress + humidity would be my bet. those things alone always wreak havoc on my IBS, together they're even worse. just eat super safely and try to do as much stress relieving/relaxing things as you can, like meditation, yoga, quiet relaxation and other things you enjoy. also drink LOTS of water and try to stay cool!
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Diary is not a trigger for everyone. In my case low fat dairy and yogurt taken with lactase enzyme does not give me any problems. Similary I have no problems with lactaid - i.e. lactose free milk. Regular and high fat dairy products even taken with lactase is a trigger.
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The person who started the thread was saying their IBS has gotten worse, so suggesting that they reduce or eliminate animal-based dairy products is valid advice. If it turns out dairy was not the culprit, it's certainly the individual's choice whether to continue eating it or not. However, it is true that whey and casein (milk proteins) can be quite difficult to digest, even if one is not allergic to dairy products or lactose intolerant.
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true... but sometimes it's tough to pinpoint triggers too. dairy could be a culprit (i.e. causing the brain-gut connection ot spasm) and it might be difficult to tell, especially if the effects of the dairy don't happen right after you eat it.
at any rate, this message board is for discussing the principles of Heather's diet, and eliminating dairy is a big part of that
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Interesting. You say "However, it is true that whey and casein (milk proteins) can be quite difficult to digest ...". Can you provide me with a reference to some scientific literature that shows this to be the case? Thanks
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This Board "offers a happy home for people following the Eating for Irritable Bowel Syndrome diet." (emphasis mine) The avoidance of dairy products is a key part of Heather's EFI Diet guidelines. It is wonderful that you can tolerate dairy while keeping your IBS totally under control, but consuming dairy is not in keeping with the principles of the EFI Diet:
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Dairy is an Irritable Bowel Syndrome trigger even if you're not lactose intolerant. It's simply not just the lactose. It's also not just the high fat content of most dairy products that can cause your IBS to flare. Even skim and lactose-free dairy can trigger IBS attacks. In addition to fat and lactose, dairy contains components such as the proteins whey and casein, which can cause severe digestion problems. Though yogurt is traditionally recommended as an "easily digestible" dairy product because fermentation has reduced the lactose levels, even non-fat versions contain whey and casein, and should be avoided.
From Trigger foods list
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Syl--I, too, am simply following Heather's guidelines, and they have made a world of difference for me. You could show me any number of scientific studies that say it's perfectly ok to eat animal-based dairy products, and I'll still get D if I eat any of them--even the low- and non-fat seem to trigger me, unfortunately. Soy yogurt is nasty (IMO), so please realize I'm not particularly happy about giving up my fat-free organic yogurt. (There are lots of other plant-based "dairy" products out there that are terrific, though.)
You state that taking lactase enzyme is the reason you can eat lowfat and fat-free dairy without any problems--and that is great. However, lactose intolerance is not the same disease/syndrome as IBS. LI does need to be tested for in order to eventually arrive at a diagnosis of IBS. Please refer to Heather's "tests" page for more information.
http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/ibs.asp#tests
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Hi GaiasSong.
I know that LI is not the same as IBS. I have had more tests over the past 25 years than I care to mention. I was diagnosed with IBS by the Rome Criteria in 1980. However, I have suffered from IBS symptoms since the late 1960s and even had problems as an infant I am told. I followed Heather's diet religiously for a few months. Changing from IF to SF made a difference but many of the other suggestions made little or no difference.
The biggest breakthrough came when I removed fruits, veggies and other foods with high amounts of fructose. For example, when I removed prepared cereals like Rice Krispies that are coated in HFCS, honey and many fruits I had a major reduction in pain and D/C. With the masking effects of fructose malabsorption removed I can now identify individual triggers such as particular types of fat/oils. Lactase just allows me to eat some diary with no problems.
As a research scientist I find that anecdotal information is interesting but not particularly informative. I remember the days when ulcers were thought to be the product of stress and schizophrenia the product of up bring. Both of which we now know is complete nonsense
Strong statements such as 'all dairy products are triggers' and 'proteins whey and casein can cause severe digestion problems' peak my interest. I sure would be interested in see something in the scientific literature that supports these ideas. I guess it is just my innate scientific curiousity
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The poster who originated the thread asked for "tips" on adjusting her diet, and that's what has been offered. Not all the tips were agreed with--fair enough. I will leave it to Heather to address the science behind her diet.
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SYL, what kind of research do you do? Just wondering...
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Hmmm - I have a bit of an eclectic research background. I started in molecular biology doing research in enzyme kinetics. I then moved on to computer simulation and data mining. Now I work in the area of complex adaptive systems research. I have enough background in human physiology to be able to follow most of the IBS research literature.
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