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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #277957 - 08/10/06 10:12 PM
Sand

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This Board "offers a happy home for people following the Eating for Irritable Bowel Syndrome diet." (emphasis mine) The avoidance of dairy products is a key part of Heather's EFI Diet guidelines. It is wonderful that you can tolerate dairy while keeping your IBS totally under control, but consuming dairy is not in keeping with the principles of the EFI Diet:

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Dairy is an Irritable Bowel Syndrome trigger even if you're not lactose intolerant. It's simply not just the lactose. It's also not just the high fat content of most dairy products that can cause your IBS to flare. Even skim and lactose-free dairy can trigger IBS attacks. In addition to fat and lactose, dairy contains components such as the proteins whey and casein, which can cause severe digestion problems. Though yogurt is traditionally recommended as an "easily digestible" dairy product because fermentation has reduced the lactose levels, even non-fat versions contain whey and casein, and should be avoided.




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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #278041 - 08/11/06 03:49 PM
GaiasSong

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Syl--I, too, am simply following Heather's guidelines, and they have made a world of difference for me. You could show me any number of scientific studies that say it's perfectly ok to eat animal-based dairy products, and I'll still get D if I eat any of them--even the low- and non-fat seem to trigger me, unfortunately. Soy yogurt is nasty (IMO), so please realize I'm not particularly happy about giving up my fat-free organic yogurt. (There are lots of other plant-based "dairy" products out there that are terrific, though.)

You state that taking lactase enzyme is the reason you can eat lowfat and fat-free dairy without any problems--and that is great. However, lactose intolerance is not the same disease/syndrome as IBS. LI does need to be tested for in order to eventually arrive at a diagnosis of IBS. Please refer to Heather's "tests" page for more information.

http://www.helpforibs.com/footer/ibs.asp#tests

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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #278048 - 08/11/06 04:35 PM
Syl

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Hi GaiasSong.

I know that LI is not the same as IBS. I have had more tests over the past 25 years than I care to mention. I was diagnosed with IBS by the Rome Criteria in 1980. However, I have suffered from IBS symptoms since the late 1960s and even had problems as an infant I am told. I followed Heather's diet religiously for a few months. Changing from IF to SF made a difference but many of the other suggestions made little or no difference.

The biggest breakthrough came when I removed fruits, veggies and other foods with high amounts of fructose. For example, when I removed prepared cereals like Rice Krispies that are coated in HFCS, honey and many fruits I had a major reduction in pain and D/C. With the masking effects of fructose malabsorption removed I can now identify individual triggers such as particular types of fat/oils. Lactase just allows me to eat some diary with no problems.

As a research scientist I find that anecdotal information is interesting but not particularly informative. I remember the days when ulcers were thought to be the product of stress and schizophrenia the product of up bring. Both of which we now know is complete nonsense

Strong statements such as 'all dairy products are triggers' and 'proteins whey and casein can cause severe digestion problems' peak my interest. I sure would be interested in see something in the scientific literature that supports these ideas. I guess it is just my innate scientific curiousity


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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #278072 - 08/12/06 07:11 AM
GaiasSong

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The poster who originated the thread asked for "tips" on adjusting her diet, and that's what has been offered. Not all the tips were agreed with--fair enough. I will leave it to Heather to address the science behind her diet.

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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #278089 - 08/12/06 01:42 PM
kim123

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Loc: Florida

SYL, what kind of research do you do? Just wondering...

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Re: all dairy is a trigger new
      #278094 - 08/12/06 03:40 PM
Syl

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Hmmm - I have a bit of an eclectic research background. I started in molecular biology doing research in enzyme kinetics. I then moved on to computer simulation and data mining. Now I work in the area of complex adaptive systems research. I have enough background in human physiology to be able to follow most of the IBS research literature.

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