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      #261371 - 05/03/06 03:06 PM
AmandaPanda, J.D.

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That's your pride talking, sunshine. Humility is key. And anyway it's just a loan! I'll lend you the CDs, I'm sure someone here will lend you a programmable CD player, though I'm certain it's not necessary (as I said, you can just set a timer to wake you up). Think about it, pray about it, whatever. In the meantime I need your mailing address!

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another thumper here... new
      #261372 - 05/03/06 03:08 PM
nomorepooch

Reged: 04/18/06
Posts: 285


is willing to make a donation to help pay for a CD player and I know that I am not the only one. I have no idea how much a programable CD player costs but I am good for $20.00.

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Formerly poochibelly...
I have IBS but it doesn't have me!

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i'm confused.... new
      #261376 - 05/03/06 03:32 PM
renee21

Reged: 06/02/05
Posts: 486
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada

about this "programmable CD player" business. I did the hypno CDs but didn't program my CD player. I just pressed play and went at it. I always woke up when the session ended, and turned off my CD player then. I think maybe once or twice I awoke with a start just as the following session was beginning. I guess I just took a risk. But Beth, I encourage you to accept the support everyone's giving you and give the CDs a try!


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Beth new
      #261383 - 05/03/06 03:57 PM
jen1013

Reged: 05/06/05
Posts: 1322
Loc: the wabe

There is never "no hope". I went to Mayo Clinic back in March -- people had been urging me for months and months to go there, but I resisted because I'd been struggling for so long that Mayo seemed a sort of last-gasp thing -- and if Mayo didn't work, what then? then there'd be nothing left.

Well, I went to Mayo Clinic, and guess what, so far I haven't been helped at all (as far as my endometriosis problems go). In fact, thanks to their RE, I feel way worse than I did before. But contrary to what I expected, I don't feel like I've lost all hope. Okay, so maybe I am not exactly Little Miss Sunshine all the time, but as long as I'm breathing, there's a chance I'll figure out how to make myself feel better, and THAT is enough to keep me going.

But. Be honest with yourself. Have you REALLY tried everything? I mean, really honestly given it a more-than-fair trial? Maybe some of the options can be scary, or maybe you resist the idea that it can be helpful. I know you've been on Heather's diet a long time, but there are a lot of other contributing factors. I used to have horrible D all the time, and I remember how quickly I gave up on new ideas when it didn't seem to be helping. I have no idea what you've tried and haven't tried, and you don't have to tell me -- but think it over and consider what you can really truly rule out as being helpful. So maybe X didn't seem to be helping, but maybe you were taking Y and Z that negated the effects of X? I would be trying a new probiotic and a new fiber supplement and more protein and a calcium supplement all at once, and I would continue to feel like garbage -- or feel like an entire dumpster full of garbage -- and so I would give up on all of it.

Don't forget, too, that people ARE coming out with new treatments all the time. There will always be the hope that progress will be made.

You need to try the hypno. Maybe it's scary, but if you spend your whole life trying to be "safe", odds are you won't be happy. Do not look at it as your "last hope". It isn't, and even if it was, the fact that it IS hope should be enough to try it.

Please, please try the hypno. You owe it to yourself to do your best to get better.

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"It's one of the most serious things that can possibly happen to one in a battle -- to get one's head cut off." -- LC

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Re: Beth new
      #261384 - 05/03/06 04:25 PM
lalala

Reged: 02/14/05
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I agree with all the great advice you've been getting. Yes! Please try the hypno! On a lot of your posts, you do come across as being very anxious and being too cautious. I think the hypno CDs would help you break those negative thought patterns. You know I've had to deal with my own anxiety issues as well, so I see some similarity between us. Right now, try the hypno CDs and don't worry about the possiblity that they may not work.

*hugs!*

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Wow new
      #261386 - 05/03/06 04:35 PM
retrograde

Reged: 04/15/04
Posts: 1569


This thread just reminds me once again of what a fabulous, generous, kind community this is, and makes me feel so happy with the world

Beth, I agree with everyone else. Take the chance, and take all these beautiful people up on their generosity!

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I know WOW!! new
      #261412 - 05/03/06 08:09 PM
Dr. Spice Yamin

Reged: 04/15/04
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Loc: Maryland

everyone here really is amazing!

and I agree with what heather and some people are saying about the subconscious mind. If you think there is no hope, then there will be no hope because you make it that way.. however, if you think positively things usually turn out in a positive way (granted, I know this is always the case, but more often than not its true) For example.. if you think you're going to get sick.. then chances are you're going to get sick. If I go out at night and hem and haw about getting an attack.. I usually get one. If I go out and think.. nope.. not tonight.. I'm going to have to much fun to worry about ibs, and you know what.. i'm almost always fine!

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You are all such amazing people!! -nt new
      #261438 - 05/04/06 06:07 AM
MCV

Reged: 01/04/05
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Loc: Manchester, NH



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Hey Beth!! new
      #261456 - 05/04/06 07:07 AM
epa_ginger

Reged: 02/23/05
Posts: 1158
Loc: Chicago, IL

Are you talking about that cd player?? Let me see if I saved it and you can have it!! I REALLY don't need it. I barely use my "new" one anymore now that I have my mp3 player!

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Re: Hey Beth!! new
      #261484 - 05/04/06 08:13 AM
Johnny T. Reb

Reged: 07/09/05
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Loc: Lake Linden, Mich in the U.P. IBS-C

Ginger, Yes, that is the one we were talking about. -Bob

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