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#253444 - 03/21/06 10:25 AM
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pinkprincess
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I`ve started following heathers diet exactly -for the past 3 days -(minus wheat - i don`t touch it) but my tums worse than it has been for ages (bloated and gas especially)
Any ideas? HELP!!!!
Thanks in advance...any advice is really appreciated!
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Re: confused
#253448 - 03/21/06 10:30 AM
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K2
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What exactly have you had to eat and drink the past few days? Did you by any chance keep a food diary, or remember most of what you ate? It could help shed some light.
Also have you started on any fiber supplement, vitamins, or meds?
Kat
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I`ve not started any new med but I always have acidopholis (sp?) colfac and leperomide. I have drank water, fennel tea and used soy milk. I have basically eaten rice crispies, bananas, rice, wheat free pasta, wheat free bread, tuna in spring water, chicken, soup (my mum made from sweet potato, carrot and butternut squash)and I also had some blueberries, strawberries and a small piece of dairy and wheat free choc. The only thing I`ve not had before is soy milk...could it be this?
Thanks for ur help
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Not sure if you know this already but Imodium will make you bloated and gassy. Soy can also make you gassy until you get used to it. I would try drinking some hot fennel tea throughout the day.
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Re: confused
#253522 - 03/21/06 01:41 PM
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K2
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The acidophilus is a probiotic and may cause some gas/bloating initially, but I think this should go away with use. Colfac does have lactose in it, although a very tiny amount, but I'm not sure if that would affect you?
The loperamide is the same as Immodium. I take Immodium AD which has no lactose and has an extra ingredient that helps relieve gas and bloating. Some people also take Beano for gas and bloating.
The foods you're eating look great. Berries tend to be a bit hard to handle for some. The soy milk too might take a bit to get used to. Keep up the diet for a while and see if you notice improvement. A few days is not much time to let your system calm down.
For a comparison, I started off for a few days with only SF foods, then incorporated some veggies and meat (usually one new food per day), and finally soy products (after a few weeks). It does take a while for your stomach to get used to new foods.
I'm interested in the dairy free chocolate you've tried. Is it good? I'm addicted to chocolate and have found it hard to give up..
Keep your spirits up, you're doing good!
Kat
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I`m so confused I wrote a MASSIVE reply to this with websites for the chocolate but its not here or anywhere else?!? I think it is made in England, the manufacturers are called sweet william but I don`t know the websites name now (I threw the wrapper away)but most health food shops do wheat and dairy free choc!
I have had the medication for 19 months so I don`t think it will be that.
Thanks for your advise. I have stablised again but I don`t think soy is any good for me. I`m going to try rice milk later.
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Edited by pinkprincess (03/22/06 08:24 AM)
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#253667 - 03/22/06 08:14 AM
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Augie
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why don't you eat wheat? Do you eat other gluten containing products like barley, spelt, or oats?
what kind of bread do you use? Do you bake with rice flours?
Sorry so many questions....but I've been battling the wheat dilemma for some time. Eating GF hasn't reduced my symptoms. 
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just click on your own post, click on edit and change your message. Has saved me some embarrassment! 
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~ Beth
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Thanks beth lol! I`m new to the message board thing. I try to avoid gluten as much as possible (se my other post on this for why)
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You have this topic posted twice. This one and then this one: http://www.helpforibs.com/messageboards/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=diet&Number=253441&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&fpart=1
So, it's confusing for us as well!  Maybe you could ask Heather to delete one or lock it?
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Well my cramps are better than when I wasn`t taking it but that could be due to the fact I have cut out wheat since....so the answer to your question...I`m not sure. sorry!! 
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upps! I`m sorry...I think my computer is messed up. Half the time it works and half the time my posts don`t appear then sometimes they duplicate themselves. me and computers......urrrrrrrrrrrrgh. what should i do, just email her?
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You could email her or you could just leave it. I was thinking it might get difficult for you to get your replies if you have to deal with two threads on the same topic. This happened to me before, but I was able to delete the second post before anyone got a chance to reply!
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Hi Jo
Did you do the breaking the cycle bit of the diet first? I know that when I did it I kept very bland and some of the things that you mentioned would definitely have upset me....
1. soup (my mum made from sweet potato, carrot and butternut squash)Does your Mum use a stock cube when she makes soup? If so it may have ingredients, anything from MSG (Which is EEEVIL) to garlic powder which hurt my tummy.
2. Blueberries, strawberries- strawberries give me LOTS of D  I love them but have to have eaten lots and lots of solubles before I can chance having berries and getting away scot free.
3.dairy and wheat free choc- as far as i know it's still chocolate so still bad, but don't quote me on that. It's all pretty rich for a sick tummy.
I was on Colofac when I got IBS first and it really didn't help me at all, but I know some people swear by it.
The diet doesn't necessarily work immediately but it will work for most people so stick with it and maybe go blander? Keeping a food diary is such a good idea too.
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yeah she used a vegetable, gluten free stock cube...whats msg? excuse my ignorance!
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Help, please. I can't find the post about why you don't eat wheat or gluten or what you do in place of it.
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~ Beth
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I am currently waiting to have a camera down my throat to my small intestines to check for coeliacs disease, which I think I have. So I`m avoiding that (until 2 weeks before when I have to eat it). Instead I have wheat free bread, pasta etc (get it from most supermarkets) and just avoid things that have wheat/gluten in them. Its a pain but I think its helped me alot!
if you want to know more just let me know and I`ll try and help
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That's usually the first step. It will show if you have gluten intolerance. I had positive blood work but a negative endoscopy. So, I'm not celiac but maybe gluten intolerant? But eating GF hasn't helped me.
Why did you suspect Celiac? Are you a D or a C?
what brand bread do you buy? I eat the Food for Life Brown Rice and White rice breads.
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I think you're right on the dairy-free chocolate. Although it doesn't have dairy, it probably has the caffeine and fat which can be even worse.. and probably lots of sugar to make it tasty. However, I'm enough of a chocolate addict to go out and find some and be a guinea pig. I'll let everyone know how that goes!
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MSG or monosodium glutamate is an additive to foods. Usually you find it in soup/broth, sauces, dressings, processed frozen dinners, and some fish meat. It is notorious for causing problems in otherwise healthy people, so for IBS it's even worse. People may feel sick to their stomach or get headaches, and there's tons of studies being done on other health effects from MSG.
Stay far away from it!
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#254155 - 03/24/06 07:40 AM
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pinkprincess
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Thanks for your advice Kat!
Beth: I had the blood test but i had already eliminated wheat so they said nothing would show up. I suspected it as everytime I ate it I`d run to the toilet! As you probably gussed im ibs-d. I eat wheat free food sold at my local supermarket, the brand is "tru free"
I`m at a loss with this diet. I am having more attacks than I ever have done. I`ve even taken heathers fibre. Nothings working  and I have tickets for the comedy store tonight. I can`t not go it cost me £30 ($50-5)but right now I feel horrid and don`t know how i`ll get there.
My nana did reflexology on me today (shes trained in it) It has relaxed me but not my tum. It was wierd cos I said that bits tender...she told me that the bit I said was tender represents the bowel/intestines/colon!!
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#254162 - 03/24/06 07:59 AM
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Hi Jo
How long have you been following Heather's diet now, and how long have you been taking her SFS?
Just asking because I ordered my SFS today, and curious how your body's dealing with it.
For past 2 days I've felt better than I have for weeks, but in loads of pain today and not sure why - no gas and don't appear to need the toilet. Grrr...
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#254170 - 03/24/06 08:18 AM
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BethE
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From my understanding, the acacia takes a while to get used to, so you should start very slowly at first. Also, start with the very bland (rice, plain chicken, potatoes, etc.) and work your way up to eating things like berries and chocolate. Starting balnd worked for me in about three days, and hten I VERY slowly added other foods. Sometimes, I still have to go back to the breaking the cycle thing ( Breaking The Cycle ), but at least now i can leave the house, enjoy my family, and hold a job! I'd say jsut to try slowing things down a bit for a while, food wise, and go slowly with the acacia tummy fiber (think I read somewhere to start with 1/4 teaspoon?)
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I started off very slowly as well with the diet and acacia. I didn't add berries or chocolate for a few weeks at least. The acacia I started with 1/2 measuring teaspon twice a day. Worked my way up by adding 1/2 teaspoon (total per day) each 3-5 days.
Sorry to hear you aren't doing better yet Jo! Keep being patient, and try to back off a few foods for a little while.
Kat
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Sorry for not getting back to you after doling out so much advice, as has been explained in my absence, MSG is monosodium glutamate aka the enemy. It KILLS me (It's in lots of readymeals, packet soups, pot noodles, jars of sauces in the supermarket etc)
I really think that bland is the way to go for a while til your symptoms start to calm down, it's the only way to stop it.
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