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**New Breakthrough MEDICINE**
      #246707 - 02/16/06 08:41 AM
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Hey everyone! I tried to post on the reseach/medical forum but there was no link for it, so I figured I would post it here because I feel it is SUPER IMPORTANT!! Last night on the news here in Califonia there was a report about a new medicine for IBS patients which had me glued to the TV. There was an interview with a woman who had IBS-D and this worked for her. "She got her life back" It says it won't work for everyone but it's worth a shot..The medicine is called "Xifaxan"..You can go to the website and check out the video trailer from the news report. I almost started crying because I could relate to her.
http://cbs2.com/video?cid=77 Let me know if it works or not..If it doesnt i'll find a way to get it to you because I want everyone to hear this

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246712 - 02/16/06 09:08 AM
lj

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Star,

My doctor told me about this drug and tried to convince me to try, but I chickened out because I do very poorly on antibiotics and I thought that is what it was. The link you gave did not work for me, but I would like to know more. I know that many on this board will just say there is NO CURE, period! I think that defeats the purpose of the research being done and I for one want to remain open that there is something out there to cure this. Thanks for posting and I am going to research this more. All you other researchers and librarians out there (Maria? perhaps) have you come across this?

Laura

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246715 - 02/16/06 09:20 AM
*STaR*

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Sorry about the link...maybe it's one of those that don't work just by copying and pasting...

I can tell you how to get there though
type in: kcal 9 news in the box where you would type a web address..you want to click on the 1st found item which will say " KCAL 9 Weather"..then click on the "homepage" at the top left corner...then scroll down and look on the left hand side for the link that says "Special Reports" ...It will bring you to a video library page and you want to click on the "search" button (which is in between browse video and playlist)..then type in IBS and enter..then it will be the 1st video to play...It sounds like a lot but it's really easy to find If you have any other troubles let me know...I just got AIM: socalbeachblond7 ...if you want to IM me Good Luck!! And I also agree with you about the "cure" idea....There may not be one now but it is possible...That is why people do research of diseases and whatnot...

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246746 - 02/16/06 10:26 AM
johnny47

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i am new to this site but have had ibs for a couple of years now.....have just started recently with the fennel tea which helps a lot but another thing ive found that works well is taking a multi-vitamin each morning on an empty stomach.........would estimate on a one to ten scale with 10 being my very lousiest that i'm down to a 2 and have many days now with zero symptoms......hope this helps somebody! love to all troutboy

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246748 - 02/16/06 10:28 AM
Augie

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I'm pretty sure this has been discussed before. You can do a "search" on it and read what the few people who have tried it have to say.

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246762 - 02/16/06 11:21 AM
Johnny T. Reb

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Hi Johnny, I know this is non-sequiter, but um, what kind of
trout do you fish for and where do you fish? I stream fish
for brook trout for the most part. I have caught the occasion-
al rainbow and one brown trout. -Bob

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I've read quite a few things on this medicine and it does seem promising (m) new
      #246881 - 02/16/06 07:23 PM
Sandyg

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Many of the studies were with patient's with IBS. I may ask my GI doctor what he thinks about it.

I just did a google search and all kinds of articles came up. Not bogus type "you will be well in one day" type stuff either! These are medical studies and medical type sites.

Just FYI!
Sandy

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Gift Ideas For Hollywood Fanatics? new
      #246892 - 02/16/06 09:14 PM
Bevvy

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Uh.... I think there's something wrong with your link there. I got a video -- supposedly -- for some kind of gift ideas for Hollywood Fanatics. Don't think this was what you were talking about!

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #246905 - 02/17/06 01:03 AM
boo75

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Star, This was on my med page yesterday. Sounds like it's more for diarrhea and it's an antibiotic. I've found that those reports tend to be premature. At least they are doing a lot of research on our problem.>>>Chronic abdominal bloating and flatulence may have salvation in the antibiotic Xifaxan (rifaximin), which is approved in the U.S. for travelers' diarrhea, researchers here reported.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Gastroenterology/IrritableBowelSyndrome

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I looks like it helpful for bloat and gas too new
      #246922 - 02/17/06 06:31 AM
Augie

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...not just Diarrhea. I wonder if it would cause worse C for those who take it and aren't D, but have bad gas and bloat.

I'm gonna ask my doctor about it too. Although I don't like the thought of taking another drug.

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #247079 - 02/18/06 08:02 AM
kmk

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Loc: NY

Quick literature breakdown on rifaximin

-First published research on this compound in 1983
-Immeditately noticed as being a non-absorbed antibiotic (hence the GI tract as a target)
-Acute, chronic, subchronic and mutagenic studies in rats show no significant effects (brief glance at papers)
-Member of the cephalosporin family
-Effective at both gram +/- bacteria (basically all bacteria)
-Seems the researchers are pushing this towards the CD, UC aspect due to those diseases being a state of chronic inflammation
-There is clearly not enough research into is effects on IBS symptoms (sensitivity to gas) with this drug, but there is definitely more room for research and the papers published give insight as to what will come next. First papers to look at IBS and the drug were only published this year.

If anyone wants more specifics, let me know and I will post more.

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Re: **New Breakthrough MEDICINE** new
      #247095 - 02/18/06 11:10 AM
shawneric

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The drug is used to treat SIBO.

There is a lot of controversy about SIBO and IBS with the researchers right now.

Certain researchers (a few) are promoting SIBO as the cause of IBS. But it is just a theory and speculation at the moment.

Rev Med Chil. 2005 Nov;133(11):1361-70. Epub 2005 Dec 29. Links


[Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.]

[Article in Spanish]

Quera P R, Quigley EM, Madrid S AM.

Seccion de Gastroenterologia, Departamento de Medicina, Hospital Clinico de la Universidad de ChileChile.

Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) is characterized by nutrient malabsorption, associated with an excessive number of bacteria in the proximal small intestine. Unfortunately, the diagnosis of bacterial overgrowth presents several difficulties and limitations, and as yet there is not a widespread agreement on the best diagnostic test. SIBO occurs when there are alterations in intestinal anatomy, gastrointestinal motility, or a lack of gastric acid secretion. The true association between SIBO and irritable bowel syndrome and celiac disease remains uncertain. The treatment usually consists in the eradication of bacterial overgrowth with repeated courses of antimicrobials, nutritional support and when it is possible, the correction of underlying predisposing conditions.

PMID: 16446861



Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth
(SIBO)

"Although this theory is tantalizing and there is much anecdotal information that supports it, the rigorous scientific studies that are necessary to prove the theory have just begun. Nevertheless, many physicians have already begun to treat patients with irritable bowel syndrome for SIBO. The intriguing issue yet to be elucidated is the reason why individuals who appear normal develop SIBO and IBS. The most popular theory is that patients with irritable bowel syndrome have a subtle abnormality in the function of their intestinal muscles that allows SIBO to occur. "

http://www.medicinenet.com/small_intestinal_bacterial_overgrowth/article.htm

New Updates in Chronic Constipation and Irritable Bowel Syndrome CME/CE
Disclosures

Lin Chang, MD


"Another diagnostic test that has increasingly gained interest in this setting is the breath test to detect small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO). It has been proposed that many IBS patients have symptoms due to the presence of SIBO, as measured by the lactulose breath test, which has been detected in as much as 78% to 84% of patients.[39,40] Harris and colleagues[41] presented a retrospective chart review assessing the presence of GI symptoms, in particular those associated with IBS, in patients referred for glucose hydrogen breath tests for SIBO. They predicted that lactulose breath testing overpredicted the actual prevalence of SIBO in IBS. Glucose hydrogen breath testing has a sensitivity of 75% for SIBO[42] compared with the sensitivity of 39% with lactulose breath testing for the "double-peak" phenomenon characteristic of SIBO.[43] There has been considerable debate regarding the accuracy of the lactulose breath test compared with small bowel aspirates to detect the number of bacteria, which has been considered the gold standard for diagnosing SIBO.[44] Of the 182 patient charts reviewed, 113 patients (88 women; mean age, 58 years) met the Rome II criteria for IBS (IBS-D, 56%; IBS-C, 32%; and IBS-A, 12%).[41] Only 11% of these patients had a positive breath test for SIBO. The study authors concluded that etiologic factors other than SIBO are likely involved in the pathophysiology of IBS. Despite the standard use of the Rome II diagnostic criteria for IBS, the prevalence of SIBO in these patients appears to vary widely depending on the patient population and type of methodology used."

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/517739


I asked Dr Drossman

Dear Shawn,
I do feel that the issue of bacterial overgrowth is an important
considerations in IBS, and these authors have gone a long way to advance
this area of investigation and raise awareness of bacterial overgrowth
as a possible player in IBS. It kind of relates to other work being
done in the area of post-infectious IBS and altered mucosal immunity in
subsets of IBS. However, there is some disagreement within the
community with regard to the prevalence in patients with IBS, these
authors claiming up to 80% and others finding far less by standard
methods. Another issue of concern is that explaining bacterial
overgrowth as the cause of so many other aspects of the condition is
going beyond the available scientific data. Their work should be
considered more in the way of opinion/speculation, rather than accepted
dogma within the medical community, and further confirmation is needed.
You should keep in mind that all scientists will from time to time
try to extend their data into understanding other aspects of a
condition, but the checks and balances within medicine lead to common
acceptance when there is confirmation from other groups and more
conclusive evidence. That has not happenned as of yet but remains an
area of interest in the field.
Doug"

The media seems to be playing a big part in "The Cause" of IBS and "cure" for IBS which are not really true and forward statements as well.




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Thanks, Shawn new
      #247098 - 02/18/06 11:32 AM
Nelly

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Anecdotally, I've traced my first problems with IBS to high-dose antibiotics for pneumonia I took when I was 6. Thank you for the information. It's a mouth-watering hypothesis to say the least!

I've undergone antibiotic treatment for my IBS, and the symptoms always come back. Antibiotics make me feel "normal" for a couple of weeks. The D always comes back, no matter if I have a 2nd or 3rd cycle or probiotics, both, or what.

~nelly~

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Re: Thanks, Shawn new
      #247099 - 02/18/06 11:41 AM
shawneric

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Your welcome Nelly.

People with IBS, might want to have a breath test done for sibo, especially if a person has d, but rarely it can cause c. IF SIBO is suspected.

However, caution should be taken with this is the cause or cure for IBS. Like I said its HIGHLY conroversial.

There are also molecular abnormalities seen in IBS now as well. These abnormalities might allow sibo to occur in some people.

It should also be noted you can have sibo and not IBS and IBS and not sibo.







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