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#229144 - 12/04/05 08:52 AM
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Alli
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Alright, this is important to me, because this is a problem that gets to me EVERYTIME!!! I am very frusterated, but first, I should fill you in:
I have been on this diet now for 10 days. At around the 6th or 7th day I began to see improvement, and I even flattened out a couple of times which left me very happy. I am still attempting to stablize. However, I am always faced with the same problem.
After I eat a main meal (supper, etc) I always, always become bloated afterwards. This frusterates me very much. I follow the guidelines by eating slowly, and not drinking water while I eat. Sometimes I will blame it on eating too much, but even when I have just 2 baked potatoes I still walk away bloated. I am incorporating IF now and everything. I very much need some opinions or something.
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Hey, there!
Just a quick note.... 
If I ate 2 baked potatoes I would walk away not being able to breathe because I would be a giant blimp!!!! 
Try eating smaller more frequent meals. Just eat a half a baked potato to start with and see how you do. I eat potatoes every single day. Probably about 5 a day becuase they help my GERD. But, I cannot eat a whole potato in one sitting.  I eat them little by little throughout the day.
I can only handle one mini-bagel in one sitting at the moment. Or one bowl of cream of wheat. Or lets see I am eating 6 homemade potato wedges right now, but I must have made about 20. At first, I could only eat about 3 before I would blow up!!
Also, fennel tea helps with bloating and gas. But, if you eat too much for your system to handle in one sitting, you will walk away bloated no matter what you take or drink for it.
Good Luck and see how that goes!
Michelle 
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IBS-D. Hiatal Hernia, GERD
Unstable
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Portion control/downsizing really helps control gas/bloating with IBS. I personally know that I cannot stomach 2 potatoes in one feed. I might have 1 potatoe (i.e. 1/2-2/3c.) and then more potatoe, later. This makes a huge difference! You can always consume more later on.
You must elect what an appropriate serving/portion is for you.
Eating slowly really helps, too. So does using smaller plates. I think that eating small meals, many times a day helps control discomfort/attacks.
Kate, IBS-D.
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I was making this mistake over and over and constantly!! Because I would eat very small snacks throughout the day (sometimes I would allow myself to go hungry) and then I would make supper, which would include safe IF because I am farther now in the diet. Does this mean I have to start over again? Shall I continue as I was, and just decrease the amount I consume on one sitting, or should I start again?
Also, what do you all normally do for supper? I mean, do you make supper, eat half of it and then microwave it?? I don't understand how you can eat this way while still incorporating IF. There is no room for anything!!!!! I knew we had to eat small meals, but I never thought they were that small!! I am going to have to dwell on this for a while. Any more thoughts or input on this subject will be highly appreciated. THANK YOU very much for bringing this to my attention!!!! I will be checking this post often, because this has always been a problem for me.
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I might be able to do a whole baked potato -- but only if it was the main thing in my meal -- like it. lol I could never do two of them. I'd be bloated and miserable too. Portions will help.
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Yikes!
#229406 - 12/05/05 01:01 PM
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Bevvy
Reged: 11/04/03
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TWO baked potatoes? Good grief, Girl, I can't even eat ONE! Neither can my hubby. We split one potato, add a can of Mexican-style corn, and "re-bake" it. That half potato with the corn is our entire meal, and that's dinner. A few hours later, we'll have an orange or (in hubby's case) an apple.
Breakfast for me is soy "egg" nog in my coffee (yeah, I know, it's a trigger -- but not for me anymore, so yaaay!). Then a few hours later, I'll fix my hubby's fave (waffles), and I'll have one. BTW, Rachel Ray recently made some awesome gingerbread waffles, which I'm dying to try.....
Lunch is a grilled soy cheese samich or tuna salad.
Now that's what I call a lot of food. Don't you? It certainly fills us up, but we're old folks whose metabolism has come to a screeching halt, so we eat a lot less than we used to.
Bloating, eh? Well, I do get bloated if I eat too much. In fact, eating too much is the biggest trigger for me, more than anything (except maybe dairy). If I have a plate of spaghetti, I'll ALWAYS get an attack afterwards; I just can't seem to find the right portion. Obviously my body wants a lot less food than I'm giving it.
Does any of this help?
Bev
P.S.: Good for you, drinking water while you eat. I wish I could do that. I hate the stuff.
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Yes, during the BTC diet I would normally have 2 baked potatoes and thats it. Throughout the day I would drink water, have one cup of tea, and some bread or something.
So, do you normally eat half of your supper and microwave the other half or something? Or do you somehow manage to fit your SF + IF requirements into one small portion?
I am trying very hard to figure this out because I have been doing this for such a long time!!! And wondering why my great results from the diet were only temporary. All I know now is that things are going to have to change!!
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Or does your food supply consist of only frequent snacking? I am willing to make the change. But it seems like a strange way to live because how would you even get enough of anything, including IF? If you were to bake a fruit or something, for example, would you even be able to eat it all within one sitting without becoming bloated?
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Yep!
#229453 - 12/05/05 03:07 PM
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Linz
Reged: 09/01/03
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Moderation in ALL things is key.
For example, I can have a piece of fish, a small portion of potatoes and a portion of veggies just fine as long as I take it real slow. But if I tried to eat twice that many potatoes ON THEIR OWN, I'd get real full and probably bloated.
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Small breakfast, snack, snack, lunch, snack snack, dinner, snack, snack.
And those snacks are usually small, and IBS friendly. As Heather's book puts it, it's about making sure your tummy/gut is never empty.
Moderation is a key though.
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Jonna, IBS-D
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Yes, I generally consume what might be called supper. I have to eat it very slowly or else I feel ill. There's almost always IF and always SF. I prefer rice to potatoes, a green vegetable, and an SF vegetable. Sometimes, I start out with soup or a high SF appetizer/ hors'deurve/pre-supper munchie or snack(I used to do salad but that is most disagreeable at this time). If I'm not in the mood for this first course, I'll have it later on or for lunch the next day.
Truly, though, I cannot stomach a whole potatoe. I usually buy mini potatoes.
Kate, IBS-D.
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but I just make sure to not get too hungry between meals and I attempt not to eat too much, although I often do.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Question ... did you mean you are eating two baked potatoes at the same time, in a single sitting ... or did you mean you have two baked potatoes throughout the entire day?
Next .. just to show an example of how your meals should be spread out, this is what I will be eating today:
Morning snack -8:00- Two pieces of white toast w/ a thin layer of peanut butter, and an apple.
2nd morning snack -10:00- One bowl of whole grain shredded oats cereal w/ rice milk
Lunch -12:00- 4 pieces of safe sushi, w/ either some rice or a small piece of bread
Afternoon snack -2:00- Baked tostitos with a safe salsa
2nd snack -4:00- A safe smoothie
Dinner -6:30- Mushroom Barley soup with a bread roll
I hope that helps. I really do hope things start looking up for you. Don't give up!!!
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I always have about 4 oz of fish or chicken, a full serving of rice or quinoa or a potato (about 5 1/2 oz) and a serving of veggies (about 3 oz). Then I have 2 Fig Newmons for desert.
I don't know if this is too much, but it's what I must eat for me. I don't mind the bloat at night as much because I'm home and can wear sweats if it's that bad.
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~ Beth
Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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Hi Alli,
I don't know if this has already been mentioned but are you eating the skins of the potatoes? If so, this might be the problem.
Do you take a SFS like Benefiber? This causes some people lots of gas.
Have you tried taking a Phazyme? It really helps me when I'm bloated.
Hope you get better soon
Barbie
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Yes - I mix. It's better to sort of graze really. Small amounts practically all day so that your stomach is never very full or empty. It really helps with bloating and preventing attacks.
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Are you saying that: having a variety of foods for your supper will not cause bloating as opposed to one single type of food? For instance, if I ate 2 baked potatoes for supper there would definately be bloating, but if I was to consume the same quantity of those potatoes but with different foods -there would be less bloating problems?
But something recommended and so filling (to me) such as a smoothie, would bloat me as well! Does this mean that my toleration for food quantity is very low?? And would that also mean that I have to have something equivalent to a small snack for supper to avoid the risk of bloating?
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#229636 - 12/06/05 10:58 AM
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Alli
Reged: 04/23/05
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I meant with one sitting, which would be my main meal of the day the rest of the day would include snacks, such as a couple of arrowroot crackers or something.
I believe that with any one of your mentioned snacks would cause bloating for me.
When I eat something like: 4 or 5 arrowroot crackers, I would be fine. But when I go to eat a plate of supper, (I don't even think it matters what it is) I will become bloated anyway!! I am wondering if I have a very low tolerance to food quantity. This would be very difficult.
For supper today, I am going to have a peice of Halibut fish. If I have one peice, I will probably be bloated. Aside from the potatoes, would any of you experience the same?
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Thank you for replying! Here are some answers:
No I do not eat the skin off of the potato
Yes I do take benefiber. I know that benefiber makes me bloated on an empty stomach, but I think I might be okay with it.
No, I have never tried Phazyme. What is it? Do you need a prescription for it? I am not on any sort of medication for this.
I was thinking though, that maybe I shouldn't be getting SF and IF in one meal like supper, as I often do. Would it be safe to eat SF all throughout the day, then when supper comes, have a meal that contains all IF? I was thinking that maybe that is the problem.
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