definitly not stablizing- PLEASE HELP!
#221954 - 10/28/05 10:46 PM
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budahbelly
Reged: 10/26/05
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Loc: Virginia
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Just hoping someone may have some ideas for me. I've been doing the all soluble fiber diet for 2 days now since Ive recently been feeling especially badly (i'm IBS-C), but so far it really hasn't helped. If anything i've been more bloated. Tonight its the worse its been in a while- I'm seriously bloated, gassy(have that bubbly feeling in my stomach- i can even hear it), and i even feel nauseous. Earlier I ate half a sweet potato, some portabella mushroom, and later a tiny bit of white rice and a few Glenny's lightly salted soy crisps. In general i've been eating mostly oatmeal, rice, potatoes, bananas, and the soy crisps,and drinking a lot of water. Can anyone tell possibly why i'm not feeling better, actually more bloated? Am i doing something wrong? Maybe its cause my body isnt used to such food(I dont usually eat much in the way of carbs)? Maybe just need to do it for a couple more days? Sorry for the novel, but i'm DESPERATE for help and to feel better. Thanks SO much for your help!
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I'd say you need to start introducing safe IF NOW! The BTC diet can only be done for 3 days MAX if you are C. So 2 days might be all your body can take before the C starts getting worse from no IF. Introduce it very carefully - think cooked and pureed IF veggies (NB. not peeled as that actually removes the If instead of just making it safer to digest).
Tho please check the fat content on the crisps...I assume you've already checked them for triggers?
HTH! 
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Soy can be very gassy and cause bloating for lots of us. Soy is a bean and maybe your body just doesn't like soy. Just a thought.
I don't eat soy, but I'm still bloated and gassy. And like Linz said, if you are C, I would get some IF in now. C takes so much longer to mangage. 
Also, oatmeal can be a problem for some people. Why not try cream of rice or malt o meal or cooked quinoa flakes as an alternative hot cereal for a few days. Or try eating the instant oatmeal which some people find easier to digest than the oatmeal.
It could also be the introduction of so many carbs without eating other sources of foods, like protein and veggies. I personally think carbs are gas and bloat producers.  Even though they serve as excellent SF.
Are you taking an SFS? Maybe the one you chose is not agreeing with you?
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Constipation, pain prodominent,cramps, spasms and bloat!
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yea i strted thinking that soy might be part of the problem-i tend to forget it's a bean. But i was gonna try using Beano- have either of you ever tried it? As for the oatmeal, i did get instant, but just today saw it said "whole grain." Missed that minor detail...Is this still a more tolerable form, or does it have to be instant and not whole grain? I will start adding in some IF, but how much SF with/before IF is enough? I just ordered the Tummy Fiber so hopefully that will help.
Augie, with regard to bloating, did you see the recent post about it in which someone recommended the yoga poses? I havent tried them, but I, porb like you, am desperate to get rid of it, so I plan on giving them a whirl. Good luck with yours!
And thanks to y'all so much for your help!
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Soy can be very gassy and cause bloating for lots of us. Soy is a bean and maybe your body just doesn't like soy. Just a thought.
I don't eat soy, but I'm still bloated and gassy. And like Linz said, if you are C, I would get some IF in now. C takes so much longer to mangage.
Also, oatmeal can be a problem for some people. Why not try cream of rice or malt o meal or cooked quinoa flakes as an alternative hot cereal for a few days. Or try eating the instant oatmeal which some people find easier to digest than the oatmeal.
It could also be the introduction of so many carbs without eating other sources of foods, like protein and veggies. I personally think carbs are gas and bloat producers. Even though they serve as excellent SF.
Are you taking an SFS? Maybe the one you chose is not agreeing with you?
Good points Augie... I know personally if I ate oatmeal more then 1-2 days in a row, I would get an attack. I don't know if this is still true but I don't ever try to find out!
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Patience!
#222021 - 10/29/05 02:24 PM
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atomic rose
Reged: 06/01/04
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Loc: Maine (IBS-A stable since July '05!)
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I know this isn't going to be what you want to hear, but you have to have patience, stick with it, and start adding insoluble fiber back into your diet. IBS-C'ers rarely feel better after the breaking-the-cycle part of the diet - actually, I'm not even a C'er, and it seriously took me a couple months to feel better!
But as someone who's stable now, after a lot of struggling, you have to believe me: stick with it, follow the diet, and the results WILL be worth it! Just be sure to start increasing your IF, gradually increase your SFS, drink plenty of water/herbal tea, exercise, and avoid those trigger foods (dairy, red meat, fat, caffeine) like the plague.
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Hi there,
I can so appreciate how you feel. I could have been writing those exact words myself a while back.
I haven't read the other replies so I may be repeating what others have said - sorry.
Don't get too down as with IBS C (which is what I have) it can take up to two weeks to stabilise. Please stick with it because if you revert to some other eating habits you will be back where you started and whther you can feel it or not you have made progress over the last few days. It's hard to keep going with it when you don't feel improvements yet but keep posting to us for support.
I would probably cut out the soy crisps for now. There are other things you can have to snack on whle stabilising. maybe some dry corn flakes or apple sauce or something. I know it seems very limited but think how much better you'll feel in the long run after you are stable.
a few other things that are just as beneficial as what you are eating:
Do you take soluble fibre supps? I like benefiber, it never adds to the bloating.
Try to get out for a walk each day, even if it's only around the block. Exercise really helps to get things moving (literally!)
Relaxation - CD's or just giving yourself time to lie still and read. Stress does not help.
Sleep - get enough of it.
I broke the cycle over two years ago now. I found I really needed to work on the other areas as well as the diet. I notice a difference if I let any of those things slide. I stick to Heather's diet guidelines ALL the time and I can honestly say I have not been constipated since breaking the cycle and getting stable. i do still suffer with bloating from time to time and from reading other posts I think this is quite common but in general life is SO SO much easier and better now.
Good luck with it, hope you feel a lot better soon, you are NOT alone!
Kerrie
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.
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I'm sorry that what Casey said is really not what you wanted to hear, but I have been unstable since August and there IS NO QUICK FIX......I have tried all of it!
All of the fads, all of the diets.....I am a VERY impatient person and I wanted to be stable IMMEDIATELY! Everything I tried just made it that much worse. The Atkins diet, probiotics, all kinds of supplements: slippery elm, marshmallow, digestive enzymes, Primal Defense, Intestinal Soothe and Build....all of it!
Once I stopped taking all of the supplements and crap I started to see immediate results. I could at least eat without getting nauseous. I began eating safely according the heather's diet and I take Citrucel three times a day (have been since 2003)....but, I was still having attacks. It was very frustrating......but, now I'm finally beginning to stabilize, again. I was having attacks every single day and it's been a week and I have not had an attack. I haven't been 100% all week, but I haven't been really sick like I usually am. I know that it's going to take alot more time on this diet because my diet is still mostly SF. Every time I start to incorporate IF, I fall off the wagon. So, it's going to take a long time for me to stabilize completely. Last time this happened, it took me a year to stabilize....It was a rough road and when I got there, too much chocolate and too much stress taking on two jobs put me here, again!! I really didn't think I would ever get sick again but I did.
It sucks, but stick with it and you WILL get better!
Michelle
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IBS-D. Hiatal Hernia, GERD
Unstable
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Perhaps try some tea, i.e. fennel for the bloating. Maybe something minty for the nausea?
Seriously, it can take awhile to stabilize. Stay calm and be kind to yourself. You're doing all the right things.
I had a thought re: bloating. Salt/sodium causes some people to bloat. How much are you using on your food?
I agree with everyone that it may be too soon for Soy Crisps.
Are you taking a SFS? I take Benefiber and personally experience no bloating.
Also, you say you're not accustomed to eating so much FILLING and satisfying, healing soluble fiber so perhaps your body is getting used to secreting the proper enzymes to digest the food, so it takes time to realign your gastric/digestive juices. I take enzymes to help with this and it SERIOUSLY eliminates bloating.
Hang in there. It really takes time. I have IBS-D and I know that after a big time D streak, until I stabilize, I experience bloating. Also, if I don't drink alot of water, I get bloated.
Kate, IBS-D.
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Thanks for the help Wind/kate. I just ordered the Acacia Tummy Fiber (and fennel tea), but maybe in the meantime i'll go get benefiber- Do you think both should work about as well as the other?
What are the enzymes you take? How/where can i get them? I LOVE the idea of something reducing my bloating- so far nothing's worked.
Thanks!!
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