Dairy subs I tried this week...
#214071 - 09/17/05 08:03 PM
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lalala
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Found Galaxy Vegan American Cheese slices--dairy free and carrageenan free--at my local HFS.  "Yay," I thought to myself. "These cheese slices will make a good snack with crackers." YEAH RIGHT!  I took one bite and it was NASTY! I can't believe how terrible it tasted.  Now I can say that I have given up on all fake cheeses. FOR GOOD!
A coworker gave me a container of Chocolate Almond Breeze. Even though I try to avoid carrageenan, I decided to give this product a try tonight because I wanted chocolate. WELL! I give this 4 stars, the best dairy-free chocolate milk EVER. It's very creamy and chocolatey and so, so smooth. I had it chilled, but I think I'll try heating it up tomorrow morning. Mmm...pancakes and hot chocolate! I hope the carrageenan doesn't make me sick; I have a feeling that's what has given me gas in the past.
Ah well. I enjoyed the tasty Almond Breeze too much to care atm! 
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#214080 - 09/17/05 08:56 PM
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Other than soy parmesan, which isn't bad at all, I CANNOT do soy cheese. It's really just nasty. Even worse, every time I've tried to cook something with it, it just sucks the flavor right out of the rest of the food! I'd rather do without cheese at all (and I have, for well over a year).
Glad to hear the Almond Breeze was a winner, though!
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I don't mind the Galaxy moz and Swiss slices. They're okay, but the American and cheddar flavors...yeah, nasty city! Blech.
I was at Whole Foods last week and picked up another brand of fake cheddar. I'll report back when I open the stuff. If it's also disgusting, I'll just live without cheddar cheese, too.
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I read that it caused cramps in mice big time.
Let me know how you do with the "milk". It is impossible to find non dairy products without carrageenan...and I'm too chicken to try them since I am so far from stability! You don't know what is causing a problem and what is okay until you aren't in pain anymore...I'm still waiting... 
Incidently, Rice Dream makes a chocolate and a Carob drink that does not contain carageenan. I haven't tried them since they contain so much sugar. But, you might want to try it if the carrageenan does prove to be a problem.
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I agree re: Almond Breeze--the vanilla is so smooth! It's delicious on the rocks!
However, the carrengeenan gets to me in a nasty way as well. But sometimes...it really is worth it!
Kate.
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It's zero fat and actually the only one I've tried that's good! The mozzarella is pretty good, as is the monterey jack.
Uhhh, cheddar is really gross!
Kate.
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Yes, "Tofu-rella" is the brand name. There are a few flavours, including mozzarella, monterey jack, and cheddar.
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I had a similar experience trying various real cheese alternatives. I suspect I wasted $20 - $30 on products that tasted gross and I tossed after one bite.
I can't tell where you are located but if you have a Trader Joe's anywhere close to where you live, they have a great soy cheese. It is called Soy Station and it is a blend of three shredded cheeses. It works great for home made pizza or in burritos. I do not think it would be very good cold but melted where it takes on other flavors like in pizza it's very good.
Good luck,
Leigh
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I'm Canadian. You can purchase it in my area (Waterloo, Ontario) at Zehrs/Loblaws. Health food stores carry it around here, as well.
Kate.
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Thanks Kate! I'll have to check our Food Coop, I know our HFS
wouldn't carry it. Thunder Bay is only 90 miles away, but
that's by boat<laugh>-Bob
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Are you guys looking for completely vegan cheeses? Cause I get rice cheese, though it contains casien. It tastes much better then soy cheese! I've never had any problems with it either.
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Follow Your Heart Vegan Cheese is the best "fake cheese" not sure if it has carageenan--although im pretty sure it does. it melts just like real cheese and tastes really good too! it comes in mozz, cheddar and nacho [EW but OK for nachos ]
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Thanks for the suggestion! I've seen it at my HSF. It does contain carrageenan, but is vegan so I'll have to try it. Especially if it tastes good!
Actually, I really love Lisanette Almond Cheese, but it contains casein and carrageenan and I'm not ready to test that combination again.
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Unfortunately, I am a sensitive to casein, which is a milk protein. I've tried rice cheese once before--I don't remember the brand name but at the time I decided I'd stick with the soy.
Thanks for the suggestion! Maybe I should take a look at other rice cheeses and give them a chance.
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I've tried Soy Station before--mozzarella, I believe. I can't remember why I stopped eating it. Perhaps it contained casein or carrageenan? Well, I'll take a look at it again. Thanks!
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I bought some Vanilla Almond Breeze last night and had a cup of it chilled. I bet it would taste great heated up or added to Teeccino! I did notice more gas those days I drank the Chocolate Almond Breeze...a lot more gas.  But no attacks, so I'm going consider it my new treat!
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How do I determine if this is a problem ingredient?
BTW, I've never found a rice cheese without casein.
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It wasn't too much of a problem although I did have more gas...but I think if I drank a lot of it (more than 1/2 cup) and consumed other carrageenan-containing products I would go back to having really bad cramps. I swear, cutting out carrageenan really made a big difference when I first started the diet.
Most flavors of Vitasoy are carrageenan-free and they taste delicious! When you're ready to try a soy milk, I'd recommend Vitasoy Creamy Original Soymilk. Watch out for Vitasoy Complete, which I bought because it had added vitamins and minerals, but it also contains extra fiber (acacia gum) AND carrageenan. Whoa!
Soy Dream Original and Vanilla flavor are carrageenan free as well, although they have a bit of an after taste.
As for rice milks, I really like Rice Dream Original with cereal or as a milk sub in soups, mashed potatoes, etc. I haven't tried the chocolate flavor yet...I wonder if it would taste good. I guess anything chocolate is worth a try! Thanks for the suggestion!
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Well, I always thought it contributed to gas and D, but then I was eating those Thai Noodles and they contain some casein but I didn't have a problem. This is why I'm thinking of trying the almond cheese again...even though I swore off cheese subs. Still, I had a couple of attacks a few weeks ago and that was during a time I was eating a lot of Thai Noodles...so I'm still wondering about this. Also, I'd prefer being dairy-free. I don't know! I'm a flip-flopper when it comes to dairy subs as you as can see.
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Other than the Thai Noodles experience(see a reply above)--I don't know! But do I really want to find out? I think I'm at a place where I'm ready for some more experimenting, although it seems to me that casein and carrageenan go together in so many dairy subs... Ah, I guess it's worth a try...I've craving some almond cheese melted on black beans and rice.
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#215185 - 09/22/05 08:54 AM
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lalala
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Yeah, I'd like to hear what the cheddar cheese tasted like. Thanks!
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I haven't done "cheese" in about ten months, except for the Galaxy Vegan Soy Parmesan. There is this Mexican recipe called sopes (thick corn tortilla-type cakes filled w/ refried beans, cheese) that I'd like to make a safe version of. A friend made them for me once with Lisanatti Almond Cheddar and ALmond Jalapeņo Jack cheese and black beans AND IT TASTED DELICIOUS!
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Beth, Casein is glue like subtance, it can cause stool to
stick to the colon wall. There's a bunch of info on it at
www.notmilk.com. -Bob
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It's on the classic trigger list - I thought you'd been following a "safe" diet. 
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Actually, I've heard really good reports about this 'faux cheese' (especially the mozzarella flavour). I have one concern, though re: fat content. I'm not sure what the number is offhand, however when I noticed it at the store it did look rather high to me.
Kate.
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NO, I don't eat it at all. I don't eat any foods that are questionable...even one's that aren't on the list like carageenan.
I was just thinking about trying some rice cheese with casein because quite a few people seem to be okay with it. I don't think I will chance anything until, and if, I ever feel better.
Linz, when I read your subject line, I thought you were telling me to "cut it out" as in posting questions. I am having a particularly "food/supplement/symptom" questioning week on the boards. I haven't been feeling well, and my body is not liking the Acacia so far. Just another disappointing experience which is not going well. I was so hoping the Acacia would work for me.
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Casein is a milk product which, of corse, is an IBS no-no! Ironically (as far as I know) all soy and rice "cheeses" contain casein. Heather includes these cheeses in some of her recipes. She has said the small amount of casein in these cheeses should be tolerable for IBS people. However, I don't know. Basically you would have to try it to see if you could tolerate it. Personally I stay away from anything containing casein.
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It DOES exist! I found it at Whole Foods. The brand name is Lisanatti Premium Soy Station cheddar style. It tastes much, much, much more like cheddar cheese than the Galaxy stuff (in my humble opinion, of course ) It melted great in the baked chimichangas I made last night.
It says it's gluten free. However, it DOES contain casein and carrageenan, and (last ingredient listed on the lablel) cultured lactic acid. These ingredients didn't seem to bother me, but I know that won't be true for everyone.
According to the label, they also make almond cheese.
Overall, though, I really liked it and it was safe for me. Mac & cheese, here I come!
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NO, I don't eat it at all. I don't eat any foods that are questionable...even one's that aren't on the list like carageenan.
I was just thinking about trying some rice cheese with casein because quite a few people seem to be okay with it. I don't think I will chance anything until, and if, I ever feel better.
Linz, when I read your subject line, I thought you were telling me to "cut it out" as in posting questions. I am having a particularly "food/supplement/symptom" questioning week on the boards. I haven't been feeling well, and my body is not liking the Acacia so far. Just another disappointing experience which is not going well. I was so hoping the Acacia would work for me.
I'm one of the people that can handle casien ok, I have rice cheese whenever and have not ever had a problem with it. I'm also very lactose intolerent, so you'd think I would but hey, guess not! Then again, maybe there's different amounts of casien in different brands...I wonder if that would make a difference, since I only eat a certain brand of rice cheese, I don't know if other types would bother me. Anyway, I say give it a try and see if it affects you. Otherwise how will you know?
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Yes, that's a really good brand! Try their almond cheezes too, they're very creamy and delicious. Unfortunately, I'm starting to really believe that casein affects my IBS. But you're right--if you can tolerate casein, Lisanattie makes the best fake cheeses!
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