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Are these ingredients safe?
      #210702 - 09/02/05 12:39 PM
Bernie

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I'm still in the very beginnings of my IBS learning.
There is a steak sauce that I love...Peter Luger's Steak Sauce. I used to add it to everything.
I'm still not sure what is safe yet so I'm here asking all of you. Here are the ingredients...
Red Ripe tomatoes,
Vinegar,
Grated Horseradish roots,
Sugar,
Water,
Molasses,
soy,
anchovies,
tamarinds,
onions,
garlic,
eschalots,
salt,
spices and flavoring

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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210706 - 09/02/05 12:48 PM
Johnny T. Reb

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HI Bernie, It looks safe for the most part, except for maybe
the horseradish roots, it seems that would probably be a bit
hot. -Bob

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BOB ... ARE YOU NUTS ???????? new
      #210708 - 09/02/05 12:53 PM
Portageegal

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Just reading that gave me spasms.

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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210709 - 09/02/05 12:53 PM
angela3

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it looks okay, like it is probably low fat or no fat. Beware of the acidity though, if acid bothers you, remember tomatoes and vinegar are acidic.

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Throw Away That Sauce, Bernie! new
      #210712 - 09/02/05 01:12 PM
belinda

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Depending on your IBS food sensitivies, the only two things that are truly safe on your list are the water and sugar! Personally, I would die if I tried to eat any of the other ingredients, many of which are known IBS triggers. Actually I wouldn't be able to have the sugar either because I have blood sugar problems!



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Looks okay to me (m) new
      #210716 - 09/02/05 01:26 PM
Sand

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Unless this is super high fat - and I don't see how it could be unless there's an awful lot of anchovy in it - I don't see what other people are finding objectionable here. There are no true trigger foods in this sauce. Some people with IBS do not tolerate spicy foods well and some don't tolerate acidic foods well, but that doesn't mean you won't. I personally can eat ketchup, mustard, cocktail sauce, spaghetti sauce, and chili until it's coming out of my ears with no problems.

Having said that, I will caution you that if you're not yet stable, you might want to hold off on this until you're further along. Until you're stable, you won't be able to tell whether the spiciness and/or acidity is upsetting your stomach.

Once you're ready to try it, approach cautiously: make sure you've got a lot of SF in you and try just a little bit at first. And, of course, don't eat steak with it.

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Re: That sauce would kill me--n.t. new
      #210717 - 09/02/05 01:41 PM
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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210724 - 09/02/05 03:21 PM
RachelT

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I don't see anything on the list that isn't "safe". However, some items, including the onions, garlic, horseradish, vinegar and tomatoes can cause GI irritation when not eaten with precaution. Heather recommends to continue consuming these, but in moderation and with a good soluble fiber base first.

If you're still at the very unstable stage of your IBS and you're trying to "break the cycle", I would personally recommend avoiding it... at least until you start to feel better, and then slowly add it back in.

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personally I would have no problem with it new
      #210743 - 09/02/05 05:51 PM
Little Minnie

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I eat highly spiced things all the time. They have never been triggers for me.

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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no way to predict...everyone's triggers are different...nfm new
      #210747 - 09/02/05 07:13 PM
meep

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I would be fine with it as long as the "spices and flavoring" does not include MSG. ~nt~ new
      #210763 - 09/03/05 06:21 AM
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Spicy does NOT equal trigger! new
      #210769 - 09/03/05 07:22 AM
Linz

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That's a personal preference thing. Tho MSG would be a trigger if it was in there.

I'd try a teeny bit of this with SF after SF...and of course w/out the beef steak!

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Belinda, what are known triggers? new
      #210772 - 09/03/05 07:26 AM
Linz

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I'm looking at that list and not seeing the triggers! Are you just talking about personal triggers and not those on Heather's list?

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Poor Bernie new
      #210776 - 09/03/05 07:38 AM
Augie

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You must be so confused by now! Just to add an opinion, I'd say to wait until you feel better to try it. You are just starting on the diet so maybe you should wait until you feel more in control of your symptomss to eat it...unless you already do feel okay.

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Oh yeah! new
      #210780 - 09/03/05 07:53 AM
Linz

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I agree with Beth...should've mentioned that this is not a great thing to try if you're totally unstable right now.

But other than that, it does NOT contain any standard triggers (assuming it doesn't contain MSG) and it'll be down to just your personal tolerances as to whether it's okay for you or not.

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Re: BOB ... ARE YOU NUTS ???????? new
      #210790 - 09/03/05 08:49 AM
Johnny T. Reb

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Yeah, I suppose a little bit. . I was just going by
Heather's guidelines which I think are a bit on the liberal
side. I wouldn't eat that sauce! Surprisingly there's a fair
amount of people that can. I noticed that a lot of Heather's
main entree recipes are surprisingly spicy with garlic and
onions, etc. I could barely eat that before I got IBS. -Bob

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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210888 - 09/04/05 07:43 AM
Kree

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Loc: Northern NY

Just to add to the confusion, I think this looks totally safe. Yes, onions and garlic can be triggers for some people, but I'm sure there isn't too much of it in this sauce. Plus you'll be eating it with other foods and presumably some SF. I'd certainly use the sauce.

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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210910 - 09/04/05 11:35 AM
Bernie

Reged: 08/27/05
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Thanks for all your responses!
I am not completely stable yet, but I have had no pain and no pure D in almost 2 weeks. But I am losing weight way to fast and need to start eating more. That is why I'm hoping this sauce works out. Bland food really makes me lose my appetite and right now I am actually forcing myself to eat. I need flavor really bad!!! LOL
I have used this sauce on chicken in the past and it is delicious. I will wait a little longer, but I'm going to try it on some chicken breast and see what happens.

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Re: Are these ingredients safe? new
      #210912 - 09/04/05 11:38 AM
Bernie

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I probably should have added that this is really not a spicey sauce. It is more fruity than spicey. You can barely taste the horseradish.

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I agree!!! -nt new
      #210943 - 09/04/05 05:07 PM
Little Minnie

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"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!

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