daughter with IBS
#201666 - 08/02/05 06:51 AM
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Jocie
Reged: 08/02/05
Posts: 12
Loc: North Carolina
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Hello all,
I am new to this board and trying to find help for my 9 yo daughter who has IBS. She has been on Imipramine for 9mths which helped alot until lately. They upped her dose which stopped the frequent BMs but didn't improve her pain much.
I found this website and started her on the IBS diet yesterday. Her stomach hurt less this morning than it has in awhile.
I am now needing help to know what to feed her in order to get enough protein and calcium in her diet. It has been difficult to figure out what she can eat for breakfast. She is also hypoglycemic so it is important that she has protein with each meal.
I also wanted to know if Splenda has been found to be a trigger.
Any help or ideas for a child would be so appreciated!
Thanks,
Jocie
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Welcome. Your daughter is lucky you are looking out for her. Yes, splenda has been a problem for many people, as are most artificial sweeteners.
Do you have Heather's books? IBS: The First Year, and the cookbook, Eating for IBS, are incredibly helpful and offer more organized information than the site alone. It's really necessary to get the books.
There is a lot you can do for breakfast. Egg whites are a perfectly safe form of protein -- just cook them on a nonstick skillet with a little pam. There are some nice omlette recipes in the cookbook. Also turkey bacon is yummy and safe. Just make sure that you always serve her some white toast or a bagel first, because she'll need a soluable fiber base. I'm not sure how that interacts with her hypoglycemia but maybe someone on here will know more. Good luck.
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Amanda
I live in the Big Apple, but I don't eat the skin
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Thanks Amanda!
I will get those books. I am disappointed that Splenda is a problem, we have to really watch the amount of sugar she has. I have to wonder if the IBS didn't show up because of the artificial sweetners she has been taking in since we found out she was hypoglycemic!
I will try turkey bacon, that sounds like a great idea. I got some sour dough bread for sandwiches and toast. Do you know if American cheese (maybe the fat free) is a trigger since it is not actually cheese?
Thanks again for your help, I have felt so helpless the past few weeks!
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Hi, Welcome to the boards. In addition to what Amanda said,
you can get protein and calcium from soy products, like tofu,and soy milks,yogurts,'ice creams', etc. -Bob
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Oatmeal is actually a great source of protein and I haven't had any problems with my blood sugar when having it for breakfast.
Check the fake cheese for dairy - it'd contain it IMHO. Casein, whey and lactose are all triggers.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "not actually cheese." All dairy is a trigger. This includes any ingredients such as lactase, lactose, casein, whey, and other milk proteins and derivatives. All of this information is really clearly covered in the books. Also, make use of the "search" function here on the boards. It's great for answering general questions like "is ___ a trigger?" and things like that. Just type in the word you are looking for ("american cheese" or "cheese") and do a search on all boards with no time limits. That should really help you get the basics.
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Amanda
I live in the Big Apple, but I don't eat the skin
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Oh, about cheese, it generally is a trigger. There are soy
cheeses that are pretty reasonable. 'Melissa's' makes a
cheddar soy cheese that is pretty good, but it doesn't taste
like cheddar, it actually tastes like American cheese so much
so, you would be hard put to tell the difference. -Bob
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Hello..I'm a brittle diabetic (constant low BS instead of high)and a long time IBS sufferer. Keeping my BS up has been a challenge, but I have found that soy protein keeps me in balance. Spirutein shakes are very IBS friendly and have a limited sugar content. They are non-GMO soy-a great source of protein and really do taste great. I also like the new Citrucel chocolate shake made with Silk soy milk though it does not seem to hang with me as long. Another trick I use is silken tofu in a soy milk and fruit smoothie. Your local health food store should have lots of soy products to choose from! Good luck and hope I was of some help.
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Thanks for your help. I worry now about her having more things with sugar now that we have cut out sugar free koolaid and popsicles etc.
We will try some of those soy products. We tried some a year or so ago when we were trying to eliminate dairy and she didn't care for them too much.
I appreciate your help.
Jocie
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soy
#202324 - 08/04/05 08:24 AM
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jaime g
Reged: 07/27/05
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soy products are definitely an acquired taste. if your daughter isn't off dairy yet, i'd recommend slowly switching to soy milk - mix it with lactaid, gradually increasing the soy milk till she's used to the taste. i used to loathe soy milk, but now i drink it, plain flavored, straight, and i like it.
as for other soy products, i strongly recommend morningstar farms chik patties - before i left for college, i had to hide them from my (non-vegetarian) little sister, because she loved them so much. they also make chik nuggets. if you're looking for tofu, mori-nu silken tofu is amazing and doesn't have that bad tofu-y taste.
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jaime
ibs-a (mostly d) // vegetarian
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Re: soy
#202330 - 08/04/05 08:38 AM
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Jocie
Reged: 08/02/05
Posts: 12
Loc: North Carolina
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Thanks so much! That will actually add something else for her to eat and give her some calcium at the same time. I don't want her to eat regular chicken nuggets any more (which she loves) because they are fried. I can't wait to try them.
Thanks again. I can't tell you how much these recommendations are giving me hope that we are actually going to be able to get control of this!
Jocie
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I'm sure this was mentioned, but if she isn't used to soy, I would reccomend starting slow. It can be hard on the tummy too. I can't have dairy myself, but also have a very hard time with soy. I can handle a little if I use Beano first, but even stil only a little. One thing I have found helpful and not too hurtful is adding soy protein powder to a fruit smoothie every morning and lunch. I get mine at the local Winco in the bins. I too worry about getting enough protein.
Also, did someone else mention that splenda is a nono?
I feel for you,( though I didn't realize that was what my daughter had) my 16 year old has suffered with C since she was 3 weeks old. Drs have never once even mentioned it was IBS. It wasn't until I was hit with the opposite, that I realized that was what it was. Gotta love drs....grrrrr Anyway, hope she is having another good morning. Alyson
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Instead of sugar or splenda in her food and drinks. Couldn't you use stevia?
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I don't like the taste of soy milk, and it gave me gas, but I like rice milk. I'm not sure if this is something she could have or not, but it might be worth checking into. It comes in a cardboard carton (not refrigerated) on the shelf, usually near the baking goods.
I have it with Rice Chex cereal in the morning. that's a good safe breakfast!!
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Thanks, that's good advice. We will start slow. It shouldn't be hard. She has hated most soy products in the past. I believe there was some frozen soy product that she liked which I will try to find again.
Yes, we have cut out all artificial sweetners. I just read today about Stevia though and will try to get some.
I want to say too that she is doing great again today. I am so overwhelmingly thankful for this site. The gastro. only gave us general foods to avoid and seemed so casual that I never realized the difference eating them would make!
Thanks again for your response!
Jocie
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This product contains dairy and is NOT IBS safe. Please do not try it.
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That's great!
#202477 - 08/04/05 01:26 PM
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Alyson McG
Reged: 05/20/05
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Loc: Vancouver Washington (IBS-A, but D prominant)
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and I can totally relate to how you feel about this site, it has completely changed my life. Though I haven't been dealing with this as long as some others have, I do believe that the best help most of us have recieved has been through sites like this and our own research. The medical community just doesn't have a clue how to help us. Sadly, IBS is just not taken seriously enough.
Boy, I feel for you on trying to change the diet of a child. I have six kids, and I know just how picky some of them can be. Maybe when she starts to put it together with how much better she is feeling, she will eventually accept it. It's hard enough doing it as an adult, so I imagine it won't be much fun. Hang in there..Alyson
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My three year old neice is on soy milk now and is very gassy! It is kind of funny in her. 
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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Thanks for the warning on the gas issue with soy milk.
I was actually just reading on different topics that concern my daughter and read several of your old posts! I appreciate your input/wisdom on the board so much.
Just wanted to let you know.
Jocie
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You don't have to avoid soy altogether but start her out slowly. Someone like my neice probably has a lot of it being kids drink so much milk. I drink a glass a day or so and cook with soy products sometimes and that is fine. I like soy better than rice milk but would drink rice if I had more per day.
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IBS-A for 20 years with terrible bloating and gas. On the diet since April 2004. Remember this from Heather's information pages:
"You absolutely must eat insoluble fiber foods, and as much as safely possible, but within the IBS dietary guidelines. Treat insoluble fiber foods with suitable caution, and you'll be able to enjoy a wide variety of them, in very healthy quantities, without problem." Please eat IF foods!
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